Is this smooshy?
- Thread starter Wishydoo
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<font color=navy>Wow, beautiful pic. Looks good to me, Wishy. 
When I post them here, or on a webpage they look...smooshy...
Um...warbled...I don't know a better way to describe it.
They lack definition and clarity, even tho the photo is very clear.
When I scan them they look clear...but, as I said, once posted...smooshy.
For example...if my walls are stuccoed...in the photo..you can clearly see the stucco.
Posted...the walls look runny.
ugh...I feel like I must sound insane, lol.
I would just like to know why they appear this way. Maybe it has something to do with my settings or something, I don't know.
I did read an explanation somewhere on the net. It was a while ago, and I can't remember.
There have been times when I have wanted to make a webpage containing photos, but with this condition it is hard for me to judge how it looks. I don't want to put up blurred photos if that's what others are seeing. I like things neat.
p.s Everyone else's photos look great! That's why I wonder about this, if it's something in my computer.
Um...warbled...I don't know a better way to describe it.
They lack definition and clarity, even tho the photo is very clear.
When I scan them they look clear...but, as I said, once posted...smooshy.
For example...if my walls are stuccoed...in the photo..you can clearly see the stucco.
Posted...the walls look runny.
ugh...I feel like I must sound insane, lol.
I would just like to know why they appear this way. Maybe it has something to do with my settings or something, I don't know.
I did read an explanation somewhere on the net. It was a while ago, and I can't remember.
There have been times when I have wanted to make a webpage containing photos, but with this condition it is hard for me to judge how it looks. I don't want to put up blurred photos if that's what others are seeing. I like things neat.
p.s Everyone else's photos look great! That's why I wonder about this, if it's something in my computer.
Ya know, in the light of day, reading my last post from last night I'm thinking...
"Oh yeah...LisaTx is gonna think I am totally nutz, (if she didn't already think that, of course, lol)
p.s....I'm too scared to ask JC for help with this.
"Oh yeah...LisaTx is gonna think I am totally nutz, (if she didn't already think that, of course, lol)
p.s....I'm too scared to ask JC for help with this.
albiats
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wishydoo -
Let me see if I can help get your photos 'un-smooshy looking'.
As the others have said, your photo looks clear.
Since you can see other photos clearly from your pc, it must be something involved with the way you're viewing your own photos.
First, some questions:
What operating system software are you using? Are you using Windows 98 or Windows ME?
If you go to Settings, Control Panel, then Display, and then Settings:
What settings do you have for your desktop? 800 x 600 or 1024 x 768?
What color depth; is it 'High Color 16 bit', or is it 'True Color 32 bit', or something else?
Are you using any graphics software when you view your photos?
If you close out of everything else and then come back into the DIS Boards and look at this same thread again just like you would any other thread, does your photo look smooshy?
Let me know and we'll go to 'un-smooshy part 2'.
Let me see if I can help get your photos 'un-smooshy looking'.
As the others have said, your photo looks clear.
Since you can see other photos clearly from your pc, it must be something involved with the way you're viewing your own photos.
First, some questions:
What operating system software are you using? Are you using Windows 98 or Windows ME?
If you go to Settings, Control Panel, then Display, and then Settings:
What settings do you have for your desktop? 800 x 600 or 1024 x 768?
What color depth; is it 'High Color 16 bit', or is it 'True Color 32 bit', or something else?
Are you using any graphics software when you view your photos?
If you close out of everything else and then come back into the DIS Boards and look at this same thread again just like you would any other thread, does your photo look smooshy?
Let me know and we'll go to 'un-smooshy part 2'.
Hi albiats 
Thanks for helping me solve this mystery.
Windows 98
800 x 600
True Color 24 bit
They always look smooshy here and on a webpage. Sometimes, they even look smooshier as time goes on. I don't leave them up long, lol.
Thanks for helping me solve this mystery. Windows 98
800 x 600
True Color 24 bit
They always look smooshy here and on a webpage. Sometimes, they even look smooshier as time goes on. I don't leave them up long, lol.
albiats
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You're welcome, wishydoo!
Ok, for starters, I won't suggest anything that is 'controversial' or that can't be restored to it's original setting easily.
For reassurance, I used to be a desk top support person and network administrator for a department in a large corporation with about 300 pcs, and I left because I wanted to retire.
The first thing I'd suggest is to try the next lowest setting for your graphics resolution. If you use the notebook pc in the picture often or exclusively, they sometimes used 'shared memory' with the ram memory, so if you back it down a notch, it might make a difference.
Also, if you reboot your pc and come back and look at the pictures that appeared 'smooshy', do they still look that way when viewed alone? Don't use any other applications before you view the pictures again and tell me how it looks.
Let's try those two things first and see if you notice a difference.
Ok, for starters, I won't suggest anything that is 'controversial' or that can't be restored to it's original setting easily.
For reassurance, I used to be a desk top support person and network administrator for a department in a large corporation with about 300 pcs, and I left because I wanted to retire.
The first thing I'd suggest is to try the next lowest setting for your graphics resolution. If you use the notebook pc in the picture often or exclusively, they sometimes used 'shared memory' with the ram memory, so if you back it down a notch, it might make a difference.
Also, if you reboot your pc and come back and look at the pictures that appeared 'smooshy', do they still look that way when viewed alone? Don't use any other applications before you view the pictures again and tell me how it looks.
Let's try those two things first and see if you notice a difference.
Speaking of puter problems...I'm having major ones with the boards right now. Sorry it has taken me so long to reply...I just now was able to get through.
I am by no means a techie...and really have no clue what you are asking me to do..I'm sorry.
What do you mean by resolution? Not sure what you mean by notebook...but I don't use one, lol.
Seriously...if you could explain how and where I should adjust the resolution I will try my best.
I am by no means a techie...and really have no clue what you are asking me to do..I'm sorry.
What do you mean by resolution? Not sure what you mean by notebook...but I don't use one, lol.
Seriously...if you could explain how and where I should adjust the resolution I will try my best.
albiats
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Ok, no problems.
I think the problems with the board are related to connectivity issues. The vast wilderness between our computers and the server that the board uses must be having problems. I used some network test tools and it showed that a signal from my pc usually timed out before it reached the Dis Boards. I'm betting that it will be cleared up tomorrow when most people will be back at work and maintaining their systems again.
Ok, back to your smooshy problem. By 'resolution', I mean the settings that make up your video settings, the 800 x 600 and 'True Color 24 bit'.
By 'notebook', I was referring to the type of computer you use. In the picture in this thread, it looks like you are sitting in front of a portable computer, commonly called a 'notebook computer' because they try to make them the same relative size as a notebook, approximately 8 1/2 by 11 inches and about 1 to 2 inches thick.
Now that I've given it more thought, I'd like to try a different approach first on your smooshy problem, though.
If it only appears on pictures that you use, let's talk about those. Are they pictures that you have had developed, like at WalMart or a drug store or a photo store and they're on paper? If so, when you scan them in, what resolution setting do you use? In this case, resolution refers to 'dots per inch', also listed as 'dpi'. If the picture is a typical photo size and you don't intend to increase the size, then a typical setting would be 72 to 100 dpi.
If you can describe the settings you use to scan a photo into your pc, that might give us a better clue.
I think the problems with the board are related to connectivity issues. The vast wilderness between our computers and the server that the board uses must be having problems. I used some network test tools and it showed that a signal from my pc usually timed out before it reached the Dis Boards. I'm betting that it will be cleared up tomorrow when most people will be back at work and maintaining their systems again.
Ok, back to your smooshy problem. By 'resolution', I mean the settings that make up your video settings, the 800 x 600 and 'True Color 24 bit'.
By 'notebook', I was referring to the type of computer you use. In the picture in this thread, it looks like you are sitting in front of a portable computer, commonly called a 'notebook computer' because they try to make them the same relative size as a notebook, approximately 8 1/2 by 11 inches and about 1 to 2 inches thick.
Now that I've given it more thought, I'd like to try a different approach first on your smooshy problem, though.
If it only appears on pictures that you use, let's talk about those. Are they pictures that you have had developed, like at WalMart or a drug store or a photo store and they're on paper? If so, when you scan them in, what resolution setting do you use? In this case, resolution refers to 'dots per inch', also listed as 'dpi'. If the picture is a typical photo size and you don't intend to increase the size, then a typical setting would be 72 to 100 dpi.
If you can describe the settings you use to scan a photo into your pc, that might give us a better clue.
I sure am feeling dumb today (okay, everyday ) lol.
First off...I DO have a notebook (laptop). I also have 2 other computers.
The laptop has it's own set of problems, and I cannot even get to the DIS from it. I am here at my HP Pavillion desktop. The other is a Gateway 2000 which I do not have hooked up yet, lol.
Okay, so anyway, I get my pics developed at CVS. I do not adjust anything when I scan them on my HP Scanjet4200C. They are automatically optimized for me, whatever that means.
) lol.First off...I DO have a notebook (laptop). I also have 2 other computers.
The laptop has it's own set of problems, and I cannot even get to the DIS from it. I am here at my HP Pavillion desktop. The other is a Gateway 2000 which I do not have hooked up yet, lol.
Okay, so anyway, I get my pics developed at CVS. I do not adjust anything when I scan them on my HP Scanjet4200C. They are automatically optimized for me, whatever that means.
albiats
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Not at all meant to make you feel dumb today or on any day. It's sort of like having a different accent in different parts of the country. And besides, I'm sure you know about many things that others like me don't know anything at all about.
The term 'laptop' was used with the earlier models and they were generally considered to be larger, weigh more, and to be more cumbersome. The newer models were smaller and lighter and they needed a new buzz word to make them more desirable, and more costlier, thus 'notebook' was born.
I really think we need to get the exact settings on your scanned images. If they're set too high or too low, it very well could be the problem with your smooshy pictures. Are the pictures on your pc the same size as the paper ones, or smaller, or larger? Do you change the size of them or use them as the scanner sets them?
When you say that the HP ScanJet 'automatically optimizes' the photos for you, it means that the HP scanner people have determined a 'one size fits all' setting that should work Ok for the largest number of people. But if your needs are a little different, it might not be the best setting for you after all. Here's a good DIS comparison - think of a Disney Nightshirt from the Disney catalog in the 'one size fits all' sizing. If you're shorter than most, the 'one size' will be very long, if you're taller than most, the 'one size' will be too short.
I just downloaded your pic to my pc and when I look at the image properties in my graphics software, which is Paint Shop Pro ver 4.15, it shows the image as 1400 x 1749 dpi, at 24 bit color, which is 16 million colors.
And if I set the picture at a 1:1 aspect ratio, it does indeed look SMOOSHY! And for another thing, if you save the picture as a 'jpg' file and if you look at it again in the 'edit' mode, it could become even smooshier, because the jpg format will compress the image even further, because that's what jpg was designed to do, compress images to a smaller size.
So now I think we're on the right track. We need to find the settings in your ScanJet software
that control the dots per inch and save it to a more usable size, such as 800 x 600 or 1024 x 768, whichever you think you would use more often. Personally, I use 800 x 600.
If you are going to resize the picture on your pc or change it by cropping it or something, you might leave it the way it is, then edit your picture, and then save it as 800 x 600 before posting it.
If I just rambled on and confused you, I'm sorry, but I got excited when I could recreate your smooshy symptoms.
Now, the next step is to have you scan the same picture into your computer again, but to stop short of using the automatic settings and for you to specify something like 800 x 600 instead. Then upload it your website using a different name and post it so you can compare the two. Then rate the new pic for smooshiness.
If you can't find the way to change the scan settings, tell me what's on your screen and we'll go from there. I have an HP Officejet G55 so our software may not be exactly the same, but we can try.
The term 'laptop' was used with the earlier models and they were generally considered to be larger, weigh more, and to be more cumbersome. The newer models were smaller and lighter and they needed a new buzz word to make them more desirable, and more costlier, thus 'notebook' was born.
I really think we need to get the exact settings on your scanned images. If they're set too high or too low, it very well could be the problem with your smooshy pictures. Are the pictures on your pc the same size as the paper ones, or smaller, or larger? Do you change the size of them or use them as the scanner sets them?
When you say that the HP ScanJet 'automatically optimizes' the photos for you, it means that the HP scanner people have determined a 'one size fits all' setting that should work Ok for the largest number of people. But if your needs are a little different, it might not be the best setting for you after all. Here's a good DIS comparison - think of a Disney Nightshirt from the Disney catalog in the 'one size fits all' sizing. If you're shorter than most, the 'one size' will be very long, if you're taller than most, the 'one size' will be too short.
I just downloaded your pic to my pc and when I look at the image properties in my graphics software, which is Paint Shop Pro ver 4.15, it shows the image as 1400 x 1749 dpi, at 24 bit color, which is 16 million colors.
And if I set the picture at a 1:1 aspect ratio, it does indeed look SMOOSHY! And for another thing, if you save the picture as a 'jpg' file and if you look at it again in the 'edit' mode, it could become even smooshier, because the jpg format will compress the image even further, because that's what jpg was designed to do, compress images to a smaller size.
So now I think we're on the right track. We need to find the settings in your ScanJet software
that control the dots per inch and save it to a more usable size, such as 800 x 600 or 1024 x 768, whichever you think you would use more often. Personally, I use 800 x 600.
If you are going to resize the picture on your pc or change it by cropping it or something, you might leave it the way it is, then edit your picture, and then save it as 800 x 600 before posting it.
If I just rambled on and confused you, I'm sorry, but I got excited when I could recreate your smooshy symptoms.
Now, the next step is to have you scan the same picture into your computer again, but to stop short of using the automatic settings and for you to specify something like 800 x 600 instead. Then upload it your website using a different name and post it so you can compare the two. Then rate the new pic for smooshiness.
If you can't find the way to change the scan settings, tell me what's on your screen and we'll go from there. I have an HP Officejet G55 so our software may not be exactly the same, but we can try.
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