Is there any way to fix this lens issue?

DawnM

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A relatively minor issue, but it bugs me just the same.

Somehow my lens is "loose."

When I have the camera turned with the lens facing down (like when it is around my neck) the lens extends all the way. It isn't tight enough to stay up.

I am not sure what happened.

It still works fine but it is a nuisance.

Thanks,

Dawn
 
i am guessing it doesn't have a zoom lock on it? some do to stop that from happening.

some lenses just do that ( my 28-135 did/does). unless you dropped it or something and it just started there probably isn't anything wrong with the lens. the only solution i know of is try to be conscious of carrying it with the lens tilted a little bit up. i usually support the lens when it's on my neck anyway so with that one i just made sure and held the lens up instead of straight or down and it usually didn't do it
 

It is the lens that came with my Canon 40D. The 28-135is lens.

Dawn
 
It is the lens that came with my Canon 40D. The 28-135is lens.

Dawn
well there's the problem then, same lens but mine wasn't that bad, i never had a problem when i was shooting like the nikon, just when i was carrying it so i probably wouldn't have put tape on it . just tilt it up when you carry it and see if that helps
 
Well, that is what I do.....I just wondered if there is something I can do to help when I turn it upside down.

Thanks,

Dawn

well there's the problem then, same lens but mine wasn't that bad, i never had a problem when i was shooting like the nikon, just when i was carrying it so i probably wouldn't have put tape on it . just tilt it up when you carry it and see if that helps
 
Well, that is what I do.....I just wondered if there is something I can do to help when I turn it upside down.

Thanks,

Dawn
is it doing it only when you walk or does it do it when you are attempting to shoot a photo and it's pointed down? mine only does it when i'm walking, it gradually creeps out if i just have it hanging down. how old is it? if it does it more than mine did i'd send it in if it's under warranty, if it only does it when you are walking i don't know that it's something they can repair but you can always call canon and ask them.
 
I hav e the 18-200 and it has lens creep. I have one of the bands on it and it works great. You can find them any color including black online so it you want it not to be seen you can get a black one!
 
Only when I have it facing down. It isn't an issue for taking pictures.

Dawn

is it doing it only when you walk or does it do it when you are attempting to shoot a photo and it's pointed down? mine only does it when i'm walking, it gradually creeps out if i just have it hanging down. how old is it? if it does it more than mine did i'd send it in if it's under warranty, if it only does it when you are walking i don't know that it's something they can repair but you can always call canon and ask them.
 
I am an engineer so if this is technical don't blame me, write to my school! ;)

The mechanism that zooms most of our lenses is a helicoid, a screw thread. *Technically a helicoid is one of the minimal surfaces of mathematics but (fortunately) that strict definition means nothing to us.* For our purposes the difference between a helicoid and a screw thread is the pitch angle, the number of threads per mm. A helicoid is made to impart linear motion and generally has a steep pitch angle while a screw is made for clamping and has a very shallow pitch angle. This works well as the helicoid gives full zoom motion for only a half turn or so, where a typical screw thread would take many turns.

The problem is backdrive, or how easy it is for us (or gravity) to push the screw against it's threads. The steeper the pitch angle the easier it is to backdrive, to the point where the lens extends by itself due to gravity. To prevent backdriving the lens manufacturer can provide a precision fit of the screw and "nut" (and make them from good materials) but that is expensive and still wears over time. The more recent magic weapon is ultra high viscosity grease that almost sticks the helicoid together. This provides a very nice helicoid feel and operation while allowing less expensive materials, looser tolerances, and it is cheap!

http://www.japan-hobby-tool.com/english/oil/index.html

The grease migrates, loses viscosity, and hardens through use and time, and the mechanism wears, all conspiring to let our lenses creep! The fix would be to replace the helicoid and/or the grease but that requires disassembly of the lens and even though the parts are probably not expensive the labor could be enough to make it worthwhile to just buy a new lens. That wasn’t what you wanted to hear, was it? ;)

The good news is the looseness does not really affect image quality (unless the lens is so loose it wobbles), it is just a nuisance. The wristband is looking pretty good by now!
 
Very informative. Thank you.

Yeah, band is now looking great! :rotfl:

helicoid huh?

Dawn

I am an engineer so if this is technical don't blame me, write to my school! ;)

The mechanism that zooms most of our lenses is a helicoid, a screw thread. *Technically a helicoid is one of the minimal surfaces of mathematics but (fortunately) that strict definition means nothing to us.* For our purposes the difference between a helicoid and a screw thread is the pitch angle, the number of threads per mm. A helicoid is made to impart linear motion and generally has a steep pitch angle while a screw is made for clamping and has a very shallow pitch angle. This works well as the helicoid gives full zoom motion for only a half turn or so, where a typical screw thread would take many turns.

The problem is backdrive, or how easy it is for us (or gravity) to push the screw against it's threads. The steeper the pitch angle the easier it is to backdrive, to the point where the lens extends by itself due to gravity. To prevent backdriving the lens manufacturer can provide a precision fit of the screw and "nut" (and make them from good materials) but that is expensive and still wears over time. The more recent magic weapon is ultra high viscosity grease that almost sticks the helicoid together. This provides a very nice helicoid feel and operation while allowing less expensive materials, looser tolerances, and it is cheap!

http://www.japan-hobby-tool.com/english/oil/index.html

The grease migrates, loses viscosity, and hardens through use and time, and the mechanism wears, all conspiring to let our lenses creep! The fix would be to replace the helicoid and/or the grease but that requires disassembly of the lens and even though the parts are probably not expensive the labor could be enough to make it worthwhile to just buy a new lens. That wasn’t what you wanted to hear, was it? ;)

The good news is the looseness does not really affect image quality (unless the lens is so loose it wobbles), it is just a nuisance. The wristband is looking pretty good by now!
 


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