Is there a purpose to all the water around disney world at this point?

[anneboleyn]

we ought to be able to do whatever it takes to protect small children and other visitors. PERIOD.
I make no apologies for that view. Lose the gators.
Please keep your ecosytem lectures and Joni Mitchell lyrics and insults to yourselves- I don;t care.

They are protected! This was the first time an incident like this has ever happened there! You started this post because you were confused as to why the water was there at all since you couldn't use it for recreational reasons. I am not sure when you decided to make this about public safety.

Someone got hit by one of the Disney buses not too long ago...should we relocate all the buses?

 

[FigmentKrazee]

It might be easier to relocate the theme parks.

Totally nailed it.

 

[Angel Ariel]

Thank you for your answer. In another post someone mentioned not running zig zag so thought I would ask.

No the lake was created for recreation and much recreational use was seen in the early days.
South Florida- Miami, Miami Beach and Ft Lauderdale are if anything closer to the Everglades than Orlando and they do a good job of seperating people from gators. When one gets lost, they take the gator back to the Glades. They do not leave it be to wander around people to its heart's delight because it is Florida. They don;t claim its part of the ecosytem - they get rid of it. Gators do not belong free to wander about theme parks and resorts- sorry.
They have a huge chunk of the state where they are protected. Take them there.

The PP is correct. The 7 Seas lagoon was created when they took the land/dirt to build the utilidors and MK. The lagoon was *not* made for the sole purpose of recreation. It may have been used recreationally for a while, but that's not the reason it was created.

 

[Angel Ariel]

we ought to be able to do whatever it takes to protect small children and other visitors. PERIOD.
I make no apologies for that view. Lose the gators.
Please keep your ecosytem lectures and Joni Mitchell lyrics and insults to yourselves- I don;t care.

There is nothing we can do in this world to protect *anyone* 100% of the time. Children included. We do not override nature - we co-exist. Co-existing requires knowledge and respect on our part for the power of nature.

 

[manning]

A portion of Disney World property is required to be maintained as wilderness preserve land. Filling in Bay Lake and Seven Seas would, I imagine, require them to construct other lakes of those sizes somewhere else on property. I don't see that happening.

when you fill in a wet land you have to create another one. I believe it has to be 1 1/2 the size that was filled in. That would be expensive. Not only do you create a new wet land you have replace what was destroyed. Don't hold me on the size but it has to be bigger

 

[cigar95]

Someone got hit by one of the Disney buses not too long ago...should we relocate all the buses?

Heck, if we want to take this seriously, let's think about all the serious accidents that merely haven't happened yet. Several (many?) of them are more likely than another gator incident, so I'm not thinking about asteroids or Martians. No reason why Disney should wait until after the accident to fix it. I'm sure we can all think of a few.
(Yes, there's a point to this.)

 

[anneboleyn]

Heck, if we want to take this seriously, let's think about all the serious accidents that merely haven't happened yet. Several (many?) of them are more likely than another gator incident, so I'm not thinking about asteroids or Martians. No reason why Disney should wait until after the accident to fix it. I'm sure we can all think of a few.
(Yes, there's a point to this.)

*round of applause*

Exactly. As long as people follow the rules and stay out of the water, their chances of being attacked by an alligator are pretty much non-existant. They are actually a lot more likely to get hurt in a myriad of other ways.

If we want to be "serious" about keeping people safe, we should just take out all the rides at Disney World, because a lot more people have been injured on those than by alligators lol

 

[maxiesmom]

The OP is either the most irrational poster ever on the Dis (which is saying something) or a Troll. Time to stop giving them the attention they want!

 

[mousefan73]

I first attended Disney World around 1985 or 1986. To remind me of what it was like then, I bought a 1986 guidebook online.
One thing I noticed is that back in the early days, they were using the water from their manmade lakes in a lot of ways:
-swimming
-Water skiing and other water sports
-the water was feeding the River Country water park
-the water was being used at the discovery island animal refuge (that closed when the Animal Kingdom opened up)
- and of course there was a lot of people on the beaches.
- the 20.000 Leagues ride used a small manmade lake for its subs.

It seems that today the water is just a backdrop and it really isn't used for much other than pretty backdrop to photos.
The water can't be used for a waterpark anymore. It rusts out the subs so no more 20000 Leagues or nemo subs rides. It really hasn't been used much for swimming in years. The recent tragedy surely will end any beach access either.
So why dont they just remove it and make the parking lot closer to the MK or put in some more rides or make the roads wider or do something with the space now? They really are not getting much productive use out of it for many years. The original design had that water serving many purposes but that doesn;t seem to be the case for quite a while now.

And while they are at it,, why not build a strip mall too???
Seriously??? Isn't it nice just to have some greenery and water as part of the environment and scenery??

There are also real reasons, I will go ahead and assume others have anwered above... Mainly drainage.

 

[mousefan73]

The OP is either the most irrational poster ever on the Dis (which is saying something) or a Troll. Time to stop giving them the attention they want!

Dang, and already responsed.you do have a point...

 

[Disneylover99]

The OP is either the most irrational poster ever on the Dis (which is saying something) or a Troll. Time to stop giving them the attention they want!

Or, he's just someone with a differing opinion. I can respect that.

OP to answer your question, the purpose of the water for me is aesthetics. Plain and simple. The water in the lakes, lagoons, etc.....make me feel peaceful. It's part of the Disney experience for me. I hope that doesn't change.

 

[TheDisneyNurse]

No the lake was created for recreation and much recreational use was seen in the early days.
South Florida- Miami, Miami Beach and Ft Lauderdale are if anything closer to the Everglades than Orlando and they do a good job of seperating people from gators. When one gets lost, they take the gator back to the Glades. They do not leave it be to wander around people to its heart's delight because it is Florida. They don;t claim its part of the ecosytem - they get rid of it. Gators do not belong free to wander about theme parks and resorts- sorry.
They have a huge chunk of the state where they are protected. Take them there.

This is innacurate. The man-made lake in my South Florida community has alligators in it. Of course with posted warning signs. My aunt had to stop in the middle of the street for a gator crossing the street. South Florida is full of canals. Can't go 1 mile without hitting a canal. All presumed to have gators.

South Floridians do not swim in lakes. We swim in chlorinated pools and the beach water. Of course we do a good job of seperating gators from people, because we live here and are aware of gators.

 

[linzbear]

Heck, if we want to take this seriously, let's think about all the serious accidents that merely haven't happened yet. Several (many?) of them are more likely than another gator incident, so I'm not thinking about asteroids or Martians. No reason why Disney should wait until after the accident to fix it. I'm sure we can all think of a few.
(Yes, there's a point to this.)

More people have died on Mission Space than by alligator attack.

 

[JerseyJanice]

Disney's water system serves a huge purpose by providing a mode of transportation between resorts and theme parks.

But I think we can make Disney World great again if we eject all the live alligators, then build a wall to keep them from getting back in. We're going to make the gators pay for the wall too. Only animatron alligators are welcome at Disney. The live ones are clearly trespassing criminals.

 

[Nancyg56]

I saw something today that gators have been spotted in SPLASH MT and frequently at the CS resort.
Of all the rides there, I can't think of any that I have been on more frequently than Splash Mt. And I have stayed at the CS resort.
You have a resort that is primarily designed for families and you have gators all over the place. HELLO? Sorry you guys don;t see a problem with that, I DO. There are plenty of miles for gators to happily live their lives in FL. A theme park resort should not be one of them.

I see a major problem here. If you are serious, and I hope that you are not, your mindset is part of the issue that humans are all that matter he on Planey Earth. You want oil? It's ours, no matter the environmental impact. Bugs bothering you? Spray with a chemical that will get rid of them. If the birds go too....oh well, they were collateral damage. You want to live in the pretty country, but those pesky bears interfere with you backyard pleasure? Kill them.

If you seriously believe that it is not just possible, but acceptable to eradicate a population from an area because their presence offends or scares you, then I see a problem. But the problem is not an alligator stuck in Adventure land.

Move them to the Glades, make an AK exhibit, open up a cajun place with some gator recipes I don;t care but do whatever it takes to seperate gators from families. Splash Mt and the Cs resort are not a gators natural habitat.

Again, people have had to have a reasonable conversation with you, and have failed miserably. I live in an areas where we have a few people who believe that it is possibel to "move" creatures to a "better" habitat. What they keep forgetting is that we are in their house, not the other way around.

 

[HopperFan]

When I popped in this morning I thought maybe... while I was gone the obsessions and hysteria regarding the alligators had calmed down...... I guess this all falls into the category of "you can't make this stuff up." I just hope Big Brother is as crazy this season.

Move them to the Glades, make an AK exhibit, open up a cajun place with some gator recipes I don;t care but do whatever it takes to seperate gators from families. Splash Mt and the Cs resort are not a gators natural habitat.

Well it took a few pages but I think we finally have our answer. We have been punked!!

No the lake was created for recreation and much recreational use was seen in the early days.
South Florida- Miami, Miami Beach and Ft Lauderdale are if anything closer to the Everglades than Orlando and they do a good job of seperating people from gators. When one gets lost, they take the gator back to the Glades. They do not leave it be to wander around people to its heart's delight because it is Florida. They don;t claim its part of the ecosytem - they get rid of it. Gators do not belong free to wander about theme parks and resorts- sorry.
They have a huge chunk of the state where they are protected. Take them there.

It's been said over and over but will try to make it short, just in case you are for real -

NO the lake was not built for the main purpose of recreation no matter how many times you say it.

Yeah well, gators are handled just like gators in any other place in the State. Just because you don't want to see any while at Disney doesn't mean there is an issue with management.

Alligators are native to East Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Florida and coastal Carolinas. Miami metro is not their hometown and we can't banish them all there.

The everglades actually start in Orlando so ....... they are home.

Clearly there is a complete breakdown on the understanding of the ecosystem, environment, water management ... but it exists. It's big, it's complicated, it's regulated, it's delicate. But, yeah, it's a lot to understand.



Disney World is an OPTIONAL LUXURY vacation, completely unnecessary to anyone's life time.
If the environment where it is located is not comfortable or feels unsafe to you or dampens your joy ... don't go.
Easy.

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

just in case you are for real -

 

[LiveYourLife]

It might be easier to relocate the theme parks.

Totally nailed it.

As a Florida resident, Orlando specifically, the easiest solution would be to just close Florida entirely!

Effective today, nobody gets in!!!

 

[Srbright]

Me too

Me three

 

[DekrRini]

Since pa dad finds WDW to be too dangerous for his family to visit now, maybe we should find a nice safe place for them to vacation. It must be away from nature, because of the dangerous animals who live there. A person could be mauled by a bear or a mountain lion. Or maybe run down by a buffalo. Dangerous creatures those buffalo. Major metropolitan areas are out, because the dangerous animals there are of the two legged variety. And they carry guns. No need for them to get up close and personal. I guess that leaves a small town in the corn belt. No dangerous animals there. The coyotes tend to avoid people. I don't think there's been the report of a wolf in years. And as long as you stay out of food lots, you'll be safe from the cattle and hogs. I'd definitely suggest staying out of corn fields during harvest season though--you might get run over by a combine.