Is McCain "Milking" His POW Status?

[legalsea]

This is why such posts ultimately fail.

The original poster asked a question. People began answering it. Then you have a few nutters who take great exception to some of the answers and become insulting and trying to prove their viewpoint.

However, the original post simply asked for opinions about a specific subject. If you happen to disagree, let it go. You will not win people to 'your side' by harping on your own particular viewpoint.

I do not think Senator McCain has over-stated his war-time experience. A logical answer would be "I do think Senator MsCain has over-stated his war-time experience".

Anything else is, well, nutty.

 

[DawnCt1]

I guess he can take it too far, but to date I have not found Senator McCain to be over-hyping his military service.

However, that may be my age speaking. I well remember the Vietnam war; the POW bracelets, the horror stories of the Hanoi Hilton, and of McCain coming back home. His courage in the face of literally unspeakable horrors amazes me to this day.

It was a life-changing experience for him, and it would be strange if he did not speak of it.

I still enjoy listening to other veterans speak of their war time experiences: Bob Dole and Senator H (I can't spell his name) of Hawaii, for two examples.

It does not mean that I will end up voting for Senator McCain. However, I will not hold his speaking out about his experiences against him.

Well said. The character of a man is not shaped by his experiences, but how he deals with those experiences, speaks to the character of the man. McCain's character was tested by that experience and he more than passed that test.

 

[DawnCt1]

Jimmy Carter isn't good enough to clean McCains shoes.

Oh, that is just so true!

 

[powellrj]

Changing the subject a little...

What has really impressed me is that he has a son who is an enlisted soldier serving in Iraq and he doesn't mention that fact. I read it in a magazine article. That really changed my feeling about him. He could really use that and he doesn't.

 

[DawnCt1]

No experience? No achievement?
1. Carter went to the Naval Academy just like McCain and served with distinction.

2. He was not suited for the presidency but what he had done since is worthy of everyone's respect and he has the Nobel prize to prove it.

Check your history before you spout off

LOL can you please tell me how Carter served with distinction??

If you like despotic governments, that would be true. He is the worst president and ex president in modern history.

 

[DawnCt1]

Obviously, I'm not the only one that has noticed.

Jimmy Carter has noticed but then, he supports Obama who really has done nothing of substance that he is willing to let the rest of us see. (annenberg challenge anyone?)

 

[Ilovemylife]

If you like despotic governments, that would be true. He is the worst president and ex president in modern history.

I'm pretty sure Bush et al have taken over that title with no problems.

 

[Ilovemylife]

Jimmy Carter has noticed but then, he supports Obama who really has done nothing of substance that he is willing to let the rest of us see. (annenberg challenge anyone?)

I wasn't referring to Carter ~ I was referring to the voting public.

 

[CPT Tripss]

WOW!
A Nobel Prize recipient gets DISsed.
I honor Sen McCain's military service, but he has played the POW element in some inappropriate ways.

 

[CPT Tripss]

Walter Annenberg - the Rupert Murdock of his day. and made the Ambassador to the UK by Richard Milhouse Nixon!

 

[Master Mason]

Changing the subject a little...

What has really impressed me is that he has a son who is an enlisted soldier serving in Iraq and he doesn't mention that fact. I read it in a magazine article. That really changed my feeling about him. He could really use that and he doesn't.

He has chosen for his entire career to leave his family out of Politics, well his wife participates from time to time. You lose any potential brownie points, but you also keep them out from under the microscope.

 

[pr surfer]

He is the worst president and ex president in modern history.

I will agree that he was a bad president. He is the democratic George W. Bush (or is GWB a republican Jimmy Carter?).

But as far as former presidents go, I disagree wholeheartedly. He has not simply chosen to retire and go on a public speaking tour. The fact that he has devoted his post presidential life to human rights advocacy and promoting the spread of democracy tells me the moral fiber he is made of.

Jimmy Carter is a decent human being and a fine former president. Selling him short because of your obvious anti-liberal bias is a disservice to him and to the US presidency.

And to answer the title of this thread, yes he is. Just like Giuliani and Bush say 9/11 when they can't defend their positions. POW is the 9/11.

 

[okeydokey]

WOW!
A Nobel Prize recipient gets DISsed.
I honor Sen McCain's military service, but he has played the POW element in some inappropriate ways.

Only in the DIS. Consider the source before you put any stock at all in the opinion. There are some are rather meaningless to me.

 

[Master Mason]

Only in the DIS. Consider the source before you put any stock at all in the opinion. There are some are rather meaningless to me.

I wouldn't "Dis" Carter for his Nobel Prize, I think it was well earned, however Al Gore's was a joke IMO.

 

[pr surfer]

I'm sorry I don't believe that POW is foolish for sharing his stories with the public

Sharing your experiences as a POW isn't foolish.

Making it the secondary foundation for your campaign (after the "straight talk express"), and somehow making it a qualification for the POTUS is foolish.

 

[Bella the Ball 360]

You know, I never served in the military so I would never dream to mock someone who volunteered to in a time of war. Your post is disgusting and says a whole lot more about your character than about anyone else.

Well I will not consider that a personal attack or I would have to report it to the moderators. HOw do you know I did not serve in the military? How do you know that a close relative of mine was not killed in the military in MUCH more acitve duty and without a videographer? How do you know I do not have first hand knowledge of that which I speak? Be careful when you sling arrows often then can richoet. How do you know that another close relative was not in shark infested waters for 24 hours with body parts all around him after his ship was blown up in another war and sufferd post traumatic stress most of his life. Since you do not know that PLEASE do not maligne my character and I will forgive you for your personal attack.

 

[CPT Tripss]

Only in the DIS. Consider the source before you put any stock at all in the opinion. There are some are rather meaningless to me.

I certainly do consider the sources . . . there are some interesting biases present in their political posts. I just can't let all of the nonsense by those "nattering nabobs of negativism" go unchallenged.
Uttered by S. Agnew, ironically on 9/11/1970 . . . hmmmm maybe those conspiracy nuts are on to something?

 

[ChrisFL]

I have a question....if a presidential candidate was involved in a bad accident and somehow had some issues. What if they had slight brain damage and they spoke of it as being a "survivor" but it also clouded their cognitive abilities from time to time.

Would we not say that means they are not exactly able to make the best judgements in times of crisis?

What if the torture that McCain endured gave some issues with his mental abilities and judgement?

There are also a lot of other fine American soliders who received honorable medals and rank and were POW's, does that also make them qualified to be president?

 

[CPT Tripss]

I wouldn't "Dis" Carter for his Nobel Prize, I think it was well earned, however Al Gore's was a joke IMO.

Why?

 

[Master Mason]

I have a question....if a presidential candidate was involved in a bad accident and somehow had some issues. What if they had slight brain damage and they spoke of it as being a "survivor" but it also clouded their cognitive abilities from time to time.

Would we not say that means they are not exactly able to make the best judgements in times of crisis?

What if the torture that McCain endured gave some issues with his mental abilities and judgement?

There are also a lot of other fine American soliders who received honorable medals and rank and were POW's, does that also make them qualified to be president?

Well, I think that such a disability would have showed up over the 30 years he has been a senator, and those 30 years are what qualifies him to be POTUS, if Obama is qualified after 14 months as a Senator, surely 20x that amount makes McCain qualified.