Is it okay to put family first? (Response to royal family stuff)

[person]

Who goes on national television to air their family business? It's poor taste.

It does not really add a great deal to the sum of human knowledge. But, as you say, the taste that is left is less than desirable.

 

[person]

I think of Regent Charles of the Belgians. During and after WW2 he served as Regent in Belgium during the controversies about his brother King Leopold III.

After he stepped down in 1950, right up to when he died in 1983, Prince Charles the former Regent said in public absolutely nothing.

This is perhaps how it should be.

People can perhaps learn from admirable, dignified silences.

 

[fla4fun]

She didn't have to curtsy- no one forced her or called her out. People typically shouldn't curtsy to another country's royals, but being engaged to a royal of another country is a grey area. After you're married, though, it is no longer a grey area. Notice that unlike every other royal bride, she chose not to curtsy to the Queen as she left the alter after "marrying" (I have to use quotes as I'm not sure what to call that now) Harry. That is tradition and we've seen it at every other royal wedding, but Meghan walked right past the Queen without stopping. And no, I don't believe for a second that she had never watched another royal wedding or wasn't told by anyone that was expected. I think Meghan is the type who never wants to curtsy to anyone, which is fine, unless you choose to marry into a royal family.

Meghan did curtsy at her wedding, but the cameras cut away. You can see her start the curtsy and Harry start his bow as a close up, and then the camera goes to a wide overhead shot which makes it difficult to see them complete the moves.

I did not watch the interview, but it seems like it was full of teasers - with too few specifics. If they were going to make an accusation, why not make it in full? Why are they going on about things like Archie’s title, when Harry, at least, should be aware of the rules even if he doesn’t agree with them? It’s the vagueness of the accusations, combined with half truths in areas they should know well, that keeps me from being on their side.

I am confused as to what their goal was with this interview. It didn’t change my opinion of them, or my opinion of the BRF, based on the articles and comments I have read about it. I am a big believer in telling the truth, and taking responsibility for your own actions, your own part in misunderstandings and communication breakdowns. If you do those things, people may not like you, but they will respect you. I believe there are issues on both sides, but I have more respect for those who don’t air their dirty family linen in public, whether royal or not. There should have been some big conversations in private between the BRF and H&M from the start regarding expectations, conversations where both sides discussed the issues with decorum and if they disagreed or could not compromise, quietly separate. It just feels like H&M lashed out like toddlers when they initially said they were leaving, and when that didn’t get them the sympathy they wanted they collaborated on a book that supposedly aired their grievances, and when that didn’t get them the sympathy they wanted, they went on tv and lashed out again in an accusatory yet vague manner. What happens now if they don’t get the sympathy they want? They are feeding the very media that hounded Diana, the media he believes contributed to her death. Why? It seems to me to be the opposite of how they should be moving forward, and trying to get their charities off the ground.

I understand that there were some sort of irreconcilable differences that caused the break that have not been completely disclosed (and don’t have to be). I believe the break was the correct move for both sides as it does not appear either side wants to compromise on these issues. It’s just the way they handled it that I have an issue with, and this interview didn’t change my opinion. I do hope that if Meghan is still dealing with mental health issues, that she is able to get the assistance she needs.

 

[Jennasis]

It's just a typical dysfunctional family. They are all better off without one another in their lives. Each of them toxic to the other in some way. We have walked away from family members for far less. Now they each know where they stand in the eyes of the other and can begin to move away and on.

I wish all parties the best, as it is a painful thing no matter which way you slice it. Hope Megan and Harry can strike out successfully on their own, and I hope the royal family can move on to...whatever it is they do.

 

[Cheburashka]

Meghan did curtsy at her wedding, but the cameras cut away. You can see her start the curtsy and Harry start his bow as a close up, and then the camera goes to a wide overhead shot which makes it difficult to see them complete the moves.

No, I just reviewed a video clip of that part of the wedding, and it clearly shows Meghan walking right past the Queen without curtsying or even slowing down, with no cutaways from the camera.

 

[person]

They are feeding the very media that hounded Diana, the media he believes contributed to her death. Why? It seems to me to be the opposite of how they should be moving forward

Exactly.

In 1993 President Mitterrand of France lashed out at the media for hounding his late Prime Minister Pierre Bérégovoy.

In 1997 Earl Spencer, at Diana's funeral lashed out at the media for hounding Diana.

It begs the question of what on earth H&M expect to achieve by feeding the media with all the talk about family matters.

 

[fla4fun]

No, I just reviewed a video clip of that part of the wedding, and it clearly shows Meghan walking right past the Queen without curtsying or even slowing down, with no cutaways from the camera.

I reviewed one before I posted as well. We will have to agree to disagree (ironic considering the topic ).

 

[Cheburashka]

I reviewed one before I posted as well. We will have to agree to disagree (ironic considering the topic ).

Here is the video for anyone to look at if they like. She walks past the Queen at 2:04:30. The Queen is clearly identifiable in a lime green suit in the second row on the left, and the video clearly shows Meghan walking right past her without stopping or curtsying.

 

[MillauFr]

Who goes on national television to air their family business? It's poor taste.

People who get paid $7,000,000 do it and I would too.

 

[MillauFr]

It begs the question of what on earth H&M expect to achieve by feeding the media with all the talk about family matters.

Cold hard cash. And to out the nasty people in the Royal Family.

 

[MillauFr]

It's just a typical dysfunctional family.

Exactly. And of them were hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein. No wonder he was able to get away with it for so many years. Many posters here want to just sweep the rich and powerful's misdeeds under the rug.

 

[Cheburashka]

And to out the nasty people in the Royal Family.

You mean Meghan & Harry? They already left.

 

[MillauFr]

You mean Meghan & Harry? They already left.

No the guy that was hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein.

 

[MillauFr]

The queen has the power to clean up this disaster of a family but yet she does nothing.

 

[Cheburashka]

So does anyone think there's any way Harry attends Philip's funeral if he doesn't make it through his illness?

I hope he doesn't attend. Whether it is this year or next year, his presence would bring pain and tension to those closest to Philip. He's also completely disrespected Philip by disrespecting and damaging the monarchy that Philip spent his life serving, and Philip probably will never (civilly) speak to Harry again even if he does have the opportunity, so there is no reason for Harry to attend.

 

[EMom]

Cold hard cash. And to out the nasty people in the Royal Family.

I think the two nastiest people in the Royal Family were just interviewed by Oprah.

 

[MillauFr]

I think the two nastiest people in the Royal Family were just interviewed by Oprah.

Nastier than the person hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein?

 

[BayouQueen]

Former Presidents have their libraries and foundations which focus variously on civic and historical issues with which they particularly wish to identify.

I have yet to grasp what it is that H&M, having supposedly quit their public role into which people thought M had willingly married, realistically wish or expect to achieve now by having so much to say in the media.

From what I've read, she wants to go into politics. There was a story out -- who knows if it's true -- that she was on the phone for a long time with Gavin Newsom lobbying for the appointed senate seat vacated by Kamala Harris. So I guess she's an actress casting herself as a fierce warrior against racism, willing to take on even the most powerful institutions. Certainly she's been making the right friends to promote herself in that direction. (Clooneys et al.)

I have a feeling we in the U.S are going to be heckled by Ms. Markle for a very long time. I can't imagine what Harry the sidekick will do.

 

[MillauFr]

I hope he doesn't attend.

Who? Prince Phillip? He probably can't attend as he is working with his lawyers to make sure he isn't outed for his outrageous behavior.

 

[MillauFr]

I see the Royal apologists are out in full force the last couple of days in this thread....