Peter Pirate
Its not the end of civilization...But you can see
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ThAnswr said:His accent comes and goes depending on the audience.
However, the accent may not be fake, but the Crawford ranch is. It's a horse-less, 1 cow ranch that was purchased in 1999 because it was good PR for the presidential race. And those dilapidated buildings you always see in the background are just for show. Those are not the family home.
Peter Pirate said:"Who cares"??? Come on guys, this is a harmless yet interesting and possibly funny little conversation. Do some of you have to defend dubya so rabidly even when there is no real charge leveled?
Of course it doesn't matter if it's real or not but it's kind of funny to hear that it all could be bs (bu****)...![]()
tlgoblue said:Bite your tongue! I will never be accused of defending GWB. The "who cares" came from me truely not giving a hoot about something as rediculous as anybody's accent, real or contrived. If you want to pick apart the President, there are better and more meaninful ways to do it.
rcyannacci said:I don't think it's ridiculous to point out the stagecraft of modern politics. We all look at politics today through so many filters, that we need to understand those filters if we are going to truly understand the context of the situation. And, I don't see it as just the president who's being picked apart...it's his team and, even more so, the American audience who feels it's a betrayal to even question such matters.
So, while many of the posts here have been dismissive, the subject at least is meaningful.
tlgoblue said:I agree, but then we should be discussing the packaging of politics and not a single aspect of it as some sort of proof positive that the Administration is manipulating the American audience. It is all part of a package, but again, whether or not he uses a very common communication technique (knowingly or not) shouldn't be the definative proof that he is dupping the American public. It's like the liberals want to hang him for something, and so far they can't make anything stick, so let's talk about his phoney accent. Yeah, that's the proof right there that he's a liar and dishonest and not the "real deal" as he is trying to present himself. Everyone on this board has an opinion, and mine, as it relates to this thread, is that there are bigger questions to be answered than how GWB manipulates his speech to reach his target audience.
Dr. Stern's Acclaimed Technique for
Accent & Dialect Learning
TEXAS
Includes four variations: (1) the general central and east Texas sounds, (2) the more melodic dialect of the Houston area, (3) the flatter sound of the west-central and southwest Texas and (4) the closed, nasal sound of the Panhandle dialect.
rcyannacci said:But here's the beauty of the situation: Bush and Co. set themselves up for this critique with their wholesale attack of Hollywood and their manipulation of "smoke and mirrors." During the campaign, there wasn't a day I didn't here how wrong it was of actors to think they could make a difference because they weren't "real" people...actors play make believe for a living...they are expert liars, so we continually heard. So when anybody dares suggest that Bush is one of the all time best political actors, it hits way too close to home and people say "let's ignore this silliness to talk about serious issues."
And, of course, it isn't just Bush but all the politicians in DC. But, he is the president, and as such is a primary target for such a critique. Anyone who runs for that office knows that will be the case. So what becomes even more interesting is noting the people who are so quick to come to his aid, as if he's too fragile to stand up to such attacks.
I'm not trying to hang Bush for anything in this discussion. If anything, I've given him a huge amount of credit for the skills he's displayed in this regard. Bush is an excellent actor; and I've taught acting, so I at least know a little about it. The problem is, acting is seen as an unresprectable profession, which has everything to do with the conservative attack machine.
tlgoblue said:I agree, but then we should be discussing the packaging of politics and not a single aspect of it as some sort of proof positive that the Administration is manipulating the American audience. It is all part of a package, but again, whether or not he uses a very common communication technique (knowingly or not) shouldn't be the definative proof that he is dupping the American public. It's like the liberals want to hang him for something, and so far they can't make anything stick, so let's talk about his phoney accent. Yeah, that's the proof right there that he's a liar and dishonest and not the "real deal" as he is trying to present himself. Everyone on this board has an opinion, and mine, as it relates to this thread, is that there are bigger questions to be answered than how GWB manipulates his speech to reach his target audience.
ThAnswr said:Bush uses and even more common technique with his audience called "stacking the deck". Every one of those town meetings he has is invitation only. He packs his audience with friendly groups who aren't going to question, but be polite, nod at the appropriat moments and applaud. And all of this is done on the taxpayer's nickel.
He not only manipulates his speech, he manipulates the make-up of his audience.