Is double booking different PS's impolite or good WDW strategy?

[Dopey Sharon]

The pluperfect tense of the subjunctive mood is used to express the same subjectivity as the present subjunctive, but, like the pluperfect indicative, at a point before another action in the past.

 

[Dopey Sharon]

per·mu·ta·tion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pûrmy-tshn)
n.
A complete change; a transformation.
The act of altering a given set of objects in a group.
Mathematics. A rearrangement of the elements of a set.



OK, ready for the next "word of the day"...carry on!

 

[mking624]

You have not upset me because I don't fret myself over people I don't even know as an acquaintance, but you clearly don't seem to get that your actions have not been considerate of others. You were thinking about what *you* wanted and whether or not it was your intention, it wound up being a selfish act because you wound up taking away spots from other people, even though you knew you would not being using all those spots. You may not see it that way but arguing about it isn't going to change the fact that it winds up causing problems for other people. And when that happens, it's no longer selfless....and the opposite of selfless is selfish. I don't have to know someone to know that certain acts can be selfish. But you seem to be on the thought that not being considerate of others and only being concerned about yourself is not in the slightest bit selfish (considering the fact you said it's not true that only being concerned about yourself is rude).

You wanted our opinions, there you go. If you're going to dispute an opinion, why did you even ask? If you don't want to hear what we think, then don't post the question. There's no point in you disputing and dissecting every little thing, because it's not going to change the fact that a good number of us find your actions quite rude and wrong. And I'm sure this post will be dissected as well, so I will bow out with the knowledge that people apparently just cannot be considerate. I really feel bad for all the people who've been trying to book a PS arrangement and have come across this.

 

[Dopey Sharon]

You have not upset me because I don't fret myself over people I don't even know as an acquaintance, but you clearly don't seem to get that your actions have not been considerate of others. You were thinking about what *you* wanted and whether or not it was your intention, it wound up being a selfish act because you wound up taking away spots from other people, even though you knew you would not being using all those spots. You may not see it that way but arguing about it isn't going to change the fact that it winds up causing problems for other people. And when that happens, it's no longer selfless....and the opposite of selfless is selfish. I don't have to know someone to know that certain acts can be selfish. But you seem to be on the thought that not being considerate of others and only being concerned about yourself is not in the slightest bit selfish (considering the fact you said it's not true that only being concerned about yourself is rude).

You wanted our opinions, there you go. If you're going to dispute an opinion, why did you even ask? If you don't want to hear what we think, then don't post the question. There's no point in you disputing and dissecting every little thing, because it's not going to change the fact that a good number of us find your actions quite rude and wrong. And I'm sure this post will be dissected as well, so I will bow out with the knowledge that people apparently just cannot be considerate. I really feel bad for all the people who've been trying to book a PS arrangement and have come across this.

 

[Jamesbyr]

We have been going to WDW with kids for 15 years. I never miss the character breakfasts.

We invited my sister and her two young kids to WDW and she was beseiged with advice to make reservations months in advance for the very anticipated character breakfasts.

I told her not to worry. We went to Chef Mickey's with no reservation, a party of eight, and were seated within 15 minutes.

Must have been all those forget-me-nots with the 25 concurrent reservations!

Thanks, guys.

 

[Lizzybee]

Goodness I'm glad we only made two PS's and found some pretty good counter service the rest of the time. This sounds as difficult and a frustrating as quantum physics. Maybe next time we go, I'll make one or two PS's. I must be missing something, we go to WDW because it makes the kids happy which warms my heart. I'm pretty sure if we were trying to keep up with a bunch of PS's we'd be crabby and annoyed. We made and used two PS's. That's about all the math I can handle (I was a foreign language major we don't "do" math )

 

[bugsy]

nataliesdaddy-- the least of this thread is your total
lack of social conscienceness toward your fellow man
with regard to your convienence vs. everyone else's
vacation enjoyment. I have met plenty of you in my life,
and am confident there are more to come. What set's
me on fire is your condescending, arrogant, morally
corrupt attitude to our fellow dis-ers..I would copy/paste
examples, but the effort would be far too laborious to be
worth my time, and the previous posts are there for the
reading. I am too a business executive, but I would NEVER
behave in the unequivically crass, demeaning, wanna be
arristocratic manner in which you so freely do. Your coworkers,
no doubt, hold you in the highest regard (choke) You need to
join the human race, and quit thinking that your evident
vocabulary puts you above everyone else. My favorite is the
"everyone thought highly of me for the painting purchase"
post. Not here they didn't. Get over yourself. If I used too
many "Big Words" for you, grab your dictionary Bucko. Look
'em up. Do not ever talk to these people in this manner
again. Stick to the subject (BTW-I recall it being YOUR
subject) You are not superior to anyone else here..quite the
contrary!

 

[88Keys]

What's worse is when folks go from PS to PS with their resort re-fillable mug!!!

 

[bugsy]

What's worse is when folks go from PS to PS with their resort re-fillable mug!!!

Thanks for the much needed injection of levity, 88keys
nataliesdaddy-- did you grab your websters?????

 

[nataliesdaddy]

Are you talking about booking two resorts for different days within that time frame and switching from one resort to the other during your stay? Or booking two resorts for the exact same days and then canceling one?

The former is not a problem. The latter is what caused the cancellation the other poster mentioned.

I was talking about the former - booking two resorts for the exact same days and not canceling either. That way you have the flexibility to be extremely close to epcot, mgm, and mk. It would the epitome of convenience. And frankly, two concierges at two resorts would still be less then a suite.

 

[nataliesdaddy]

As mommypoppins wrote, at the busiest times of the year (like New Years, Christmas, 4th of July), WDW resort guest are guaranteed entrance into a park, not necessarily the park of their choice. Closing a park goes in several phases, the first being closing the parking lot (which means only guests using WDW transportation can get in). The final phase of closing is closed to all guests, with WDW resort guests being diverted to a park that is not at that level of closing.

And, to answer the "Is it rude" question. I think it is rude because it prevents others from getting reservations.

Thanks for clarifying that

 

[mill4023]

There is a difference between a person saying something is unfair, or rude... and then calling a person some epithet. When someone uses the word "selfish" I find it humorous as it assigns a psychological state that is an ignorant judgement call. Whether someone feels or experiences a slight (i.e. experiencing rudeness) that is wholly different. One says how a person is irked, the other is imputing character. Imputting character when you don't know someone is an ignorant act by definition Well Disney really has no other choice but to allow people to book numerous PS's as there is noi way to predict which members of a party might be going to which meals - they can, however, block same party size same time.

You cannot just separate your behavior from your character. Your behavior is a reflection of your character. How is anyone supposed to judge one's character, if not by observing behavior. Besides, it's not as if we are just guessing at your "psychological state" that motivated you to do what you did. You told us why you did it:

But for others I noticed that if we should decide to go to a different park then I have PS's at different parks on the same day... So if we change plans we still have good PS's

You clearly explain that you are doing this to make sure you still have good PS's if you change your plans. The fact that you asked if it was "impolite" means you clearly understand that your actions could have negative consequences for others. But you choose to ignore this because it is more important to you to make sure you have the PS's you want.
Selfish: Concerned chiefly or only with oneself

I don't think anyone is making a leap here. Your own explanation of the behavior makes it clear that you are being selfish.

 

[nataliesdaddy]

per·mu·ta·tion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pûrmy-tshn)
n.
A complete change; a transformation.
The act of altering a given set of objects in a group.
Mathematics. A rearrangement of the elements of a set.



OK, ready for the next "word of the day"...carry on!

hahahahahahahahahaha - who used the word permutations?

 

[Squiffy]

Unbelievable!!!!!!!!!

Yes, it is SELFISH. I don't really care if this is the correct word. I think it is the word that comes to most peoples minds when reading this thread. I don't come here for English lessons, just advice and information on WDW as we have never been. (51 weeks to wait! Woohoooooooooooooo)

Two resorts! WOW. Does that mean you take double everything or do you not bother to change clothes or wash at one of them?

I am "planning" to plan my trip well beforehand so that I know which day at which park. I will try for PS's (probably 2) and will then relax and enjoy the WDW experience. I thought the idea of planning was not to have to do it when you get there!

Whilst your vocabulary scares me, I wont let you intimidate me into not responding.

 

[Squiffy]

Hahahahahahaha

You did on post no. 43.

 

[bugsy]

hahahahahahahahahaha - who used the word permutations?[/QUOTE
what is WRONG with you!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seek professional help as soon as possible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[bugsy]

Unbelievable!!!!!!!!!

Yes, it is SELFISH. I don't really care if this is the correct word. I think it is the word that comes to most peoples minds when reading this thread. I don't come here for English lessons, just advice and information on WDW as we have never been. (51 weeks to wait! Woohoooooooooooooo)

Two resorts! WOW. Does that mean you take double everything or do you not bother to change clothes or wash at one of them?

I am "planning" to plan my trip well beforehand so that I know which day at which park. I will try for PS's (probably 2) and will then relax and enjoy the WDW experience. I thought the idea of planning was not to have to do it when you get there!

Whilst your vocabulary scares me, I wont let you intimidate me into not responding.

Oh Squiffy!! Do not let his vocabulary intimidate you!!! He is trying to over
compensate for other MUCH smaller things! This is more than apparent
to me!!!!

 

[mill4023]

Oh Squiffy!! Do not let his vocabulary intimidate you!!! He is trying to over
compensate for other MUCH smaller things! This is more than apparent
to me!!!!

LOL. There's not much intimidation in using words that you don't know the meaning of, then pretending you never used them.

 

[nataliesdaddy]

You cannot just separate your behavior from your character. Your behavior is a reflection of your character.

The issue isn't seperating the two. The issue is people who would impute motive - which is ignorant at best. I have numerous associates. They all have opportunities everyday. One of them taking an opportunity is most often at the expense of other members of the group. This does not mean the person taking advantage of the situation is selfish.

How is anyone supposed to judge one's character, if not by observing behavior.

Well that would be YOU assigning a judgement upon the individual predicated on your beliefs. Which may or may not be based anywhere near reality. In Mexico I used the wrong conjugation of a verb not once but frequently. This was most certainly an action on my behalf. If not for the fact that the guys holding me against the wall getting ready to beat me to a pulp... if not for the fact that they realized they were judging me wrong I would likely have been beaten half to death. But they realized that my actions were not what they believed them to be and that perhaps I didn't understand the Mexican context in which I was using proper Castillian Spanish. Or the time I was building a business relationship not realizing that being what I would consider cordial and nice was considered to (in the cultural context ) to be a sign of weakness, and disrespect. When the counter parties realized that in my culture being highly cordial and relationship based is how everything is done.

Besides, it's not as if we are just guessing at your "psychological state" that motivated you to do what you did. You told us why you did it:


You clearly explain that you are doing this to make sure you still have good PS's if you change your plans. The fact that you asked if it was "impolite" means you clearly understand that your actions could have negative consequences for others.

That statement again would be to impute motive and to be presumptuous about who or what I am ... and those presumptions would be in error. I was not concerned about negative consequences for others, hadn't even dawned on me. I was thinking about optimizing my daughters vacation, not my vacation. And placing the ressies I needed to let go of into Disboard peoples' opportunities basket. There are Disers that now have killer Chef's Table ressies because of my having my schedules changed. As well as three other posts I put up making my ressies available to Disboard people. But if you aren't up at 6:45am EST (4:45 my time)to get those killer ressies 90 days in advance then don't blame me. I was not querying because I was concerned about negative consequences for others. I am/was interested to know what others think or feel. I was not interested in being labeled or condemned with some self righteous "selfishness" nonsense.

But you choose to ignore this because it is more important to you to make sure you have the PS's you want.

and that would be your own reality also by definition.

Selfish: Concerned chiefly or only with oneself

I don't think anyone is making a leap here. Your own explanation of the behavior makes it clear that you are being selfish.

Well no, it would obviously be people seeing what they need to see. And condemning what they feel a need to condemn, for whatever need they may have. Because, as your definition points out selfish means self. If I were doing this for selfishness sake my daughter would still not have gone to WDW.

As to your definition - If I were concerned chiefly for myself I would not have asked the opening question, now would I? Furthermore, I am not concerned for myself. If I were the family would not be going to Disney but Moscow, Troistk, or Dublin.

 

[bugsy]

You know, I just couldn't help noticing that you have
completely skipped over my posts tonight....makes me
feel a little hurt inside...OH yeah, BTW, Nataliesdaddy,
while I was waiting for a response, I made a couple of
emails to some associates...turns out we know some
people in common!!!! Very disturbing, what people say
when they think the door is closed.....................