Is Al Gore a traitor or has he simply lost his mind?

[bsnyder]

When did Al Gore discuss Denmark? Linear isn't everything, but it ain't nothing either.

He didn't. You alluded to it. If you no longer want to discuss it, why not just say so?

 

[sodaseller]

He didn't. You alluded to it. If you no longer want to discuss it, why not just say so?

I loooooove to discuss it, but not in response to inane bait. And if past is prologue, there will be no more than that.

 

[bsnyder]

I loooooove to discuss it, but not in response to inane bait. And if past is prologue, there will be no more than that.

In other words, you have no reasonable explaination. Not suprising, since you only recently realized there's even a problem.

 

[sodaseller]

In other words, you have no reasonable explaination. Not suprising, since you only recently realized there's even a problem.

Read at least 1000 times more on it than you have. One thing I know for sure - no explanation that could be provided to you that would lead to a meaningful discussion

 

[bsnyder]

Read at least 1000 times more on it than you have. One thing I know for sure - no explanation that could be provided to you that would lead to a meaningful discussion

Well, keep reading! Maybe you'll figure out this "clash of civilizations" thing yet.

 

[Laugh O. Grams]

And Gore is the model of composure, sanity and sound advice. Please, please,please, get your party to nominate him for president in 2008. If they won't do it, start a grass roots movement. I want to see Al Gore on the campaign stage again, nothing could be more entertaining.!!!

And I think it'll be entertaining when it's "liberal harpie" Hillary vs. "liberal Gang of 14" John McCain running against each other for President...we'll have to send in the men with the butterfly nets to coax you out from underneath the bed!!

By the way, bcvillastwo, everyone on the left knows how much you righties hate polls...Al Gore would have been President if "the Presidential poll", AKA the Popular Vote, the true democratic way to elect a President, was used to elect a President, instead of allowing a bunch of "activist judges" to select.

 

[Mugg Mann]

You didn't mind it when your president Bush was holding hands with the King of Saudi Arabia recently. All of a sudden the hijackers were Saudi Arabian. Gee, I thought they were Iraqi.

If you don't understand diplomacy and assisting an elderly, unsteady man, then I don't know what else I can say to you.

You know, I always wondered what happened to Emily Litella after Gilda Radner passed away, and I just finally figured out who she was reincarnated in.

Thanks Dawn, your total obliviousness to the actual point LakeAriel was making with your response just gave me the best laugh I've had in weeks!

I do hope your husband comes back safely.....very soon!

 

[LuvDuke]

I rest my case.

But anyways...

We ARE talking about the actions of Gore, not the reactions of the people discussing them. Perhaps this is another form of diversion.

Any thread with a subject line like "Is Al Gore a traitor or has he simply lost his mind?" is not being started to discuss ideas or thoughts. It's to stir up doo-doo and it did. Unfortunately, or fortunately if you believe in a higher power, some of that doo-doo ended up on the OP.

If the OP was truly interested in discussion, there would've been more choices other than ones that reflected the OP's skewed, shrill, and hysterical view of the world.

So, please, cut the BS.

 

[Chad&Janet]

Politics aside, Al Gore is a tried and true *moron*. I consider myself an independent and use my vote to do what I think best for the country; in spite of party affiliation.

But I wouldn't let Al wash my truck. It cracks me up to see people "rally" behind him.

I'm just waiting for the next red-faced screaming fit where he announces the 2nd coming of Christ. I mean, after all, he did invent/create the internet. (which must've been quite an undertaking). holy hell.


and I quote:
GORE: Well, I will be offering -- I'll be offering my vision when my campaign begins. And it will be comprehensive and sweeping. And I hope that it will be compelling enough to draw people toward it. I feel that it will be.

But it will emerge from my dialogue with the American people. I've traveled to every part of this country during the last six years. During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system.

find it @ http://www.sethf.com/gore/

 

[Planogirl]

Sigh... Same old talking points most of which have been discussed to death including the so-called quote about the Internet. Check Snopes. It helps.

 

[Boater]

I had no idea there were so many little poofdee libs running around in here.
With that said, I've always thought the "war" in Iraq was unjustified.
You simply can't win religous wars.
Muslims hate Isreal, America likes Isreal, Muslims hate Americans for liking Isreal.....................I don't get it

 

[eclectics]

Politics aside, Al Gore is a tried and true *moron*. I consider myself an independent and use my vote to do what I think best for the country; in spite of party affiliation.

But I wouldn't let Al wash my truck. It cracks me up to see people "rally" behind him.

I'm just waiting for the next red-faced screaming fit where he announces the 2nd coming of Christ. I mean, after all, he did invent/create the internet. (which must've been quite an undertaking). holy hell.


and I quote:
GORE: Well, I will be offering -- I'll be offering my vision when my campaign begins. And it will be comprehensive and sweeping. And I hope that it will be compelling enough to draw people toward it. I feel that it will be.

But it will emerge from my dialogue with the American people. I've traveled to every part of this country during the last six years. During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system.

find it @ http://www.sethf.com/gore/

You may dislike Al Gore but you can hardly call him a moron. I wouldn't call any of our VP's morons, even DQ. Gore could hardly be called uneducated. If you can't stand him, just say so. No need to attack his intellect. The majority of the American people in 2000 thought he was smart enough.

 

[shrubber]

Lost his mind.

 

[BelleMcNally]

I for one have great difficulty figuring out how much a clash of civilizations there really is. The recent cartoon conflagration tells me it is deeper than I realized, and certainly the violent masses are full of preexisting hatred far out of proportion of any US provocation. But one is not being candid if they do not think that this Administration's actions and inactions have not been legitimate provocations as well, and that a moral person should feel some shame and certain of the things done in our name.

The real problem is tribalism on display in the violent mobs and in sentiments like the OP, two sides of the same coin, neither recognizing a morality beyond loyalty to the tribe or a larger value in objective truth. Truth is never a sign of weakness, even when it reveals flaws that your enemy repeats and exploits.

Sodaseller for President!

 

[bcvillastwo]

Laugh O. Grams responded to my comments on "polls" as follows,

By the way, bcvillastwo, everyone on the left knows how much you righties hate polls...Al Gore would have been President if "the Presidential poll", AKA the Popular Vote, the true democratic way to elect a President, was used to elect a President, instead of allowing a bunch of "activist judges" to select.

Am I being baited?

For the record Laugh O. Grams I don't hate polls, polls are fine. However, I don't put a great deal of stock in them because in too many cases they turn out to be meaningless in the big scheme of things.

With respect to our system of government I think it is still a constitutional republic, and not a true democracy. As you probably remember from your high school United States Government Class, most of those who wrote the constitution were fearful of a true democracy, or mobocracy as some called it. Are you part of that mob they referred to?

I believe our presidents are still elected according to Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution and the 12th Amendment to the Constitution. AKA the Electorial College.

As I recall, having the greatest number of votes nation wide is not the way we elect a President under our form of government, at least as it currently stands.

If you want to elect the President purely on the basis of popular vote then lets amend the Constitution.

 

[Tigger_Magic]

Al Gore could attain the role of elder statesman if he chose to scale back his rhetoric a few notches. Unfortunately, his eight years in office does not seem to have done much to season him in how to address matters diplomatically. Instead it appears he has allowed his anger about the 2000 elections to grow into a deep-rooted bitterness, which spills out in speeches like this. It's sad to watch him do this, but it is his choice to make. What's sadder is the realization of what he could have been had he made some different choices.

 

[simpilotswife]

The most important thing I have managed to discern over time is there are many people out there who don't let the facts get in the way of a good story. Sadly, it applies to almost all of us at one time or the other.

Absolutely, just ask President Bush about his invasion of Iraq. That is a perfect example of someone not letting the facts get in the way of his story.

 

[eclectics]

Al Gore could attain the role of elder statesman if he chose to scale back his rhetoric a few notches. Unfortunately, his eight years in office does not seem to have done much to season him in how to address matters diplomatically. Instead it appears he has allowed his anger about the 2000 elections to grow into a deep-rooted bitterness, which spills out in speeches like this. It's sad to watch him do this, but it is his choice to make. What's sadder is the realization of what he could have been had he made some different choices.

I believe he is unburdened, so to speak, with having to pander to anyone because it is doubtful he will seek office again. Same with Cheney. I don't think either exactly cares or strives to be statesmen. They seem to like doing exactly what they want to do. Some politicians fade away and some speak their minds.

 

[Laugh O. Grams]

Laugh O. Grams responded to my comments on "polls" as follows,



Am I being baited?

For the record Laugh O. Grams I don't hate polls, polls are fine. However, I don't put a great deal of stock in them because in too many cases they turn out to be meaningless in the big scheme of things.

With respect to our system of government I think it is still a constitutional republic, and not a true democracy. As you probably remember from your high school United States Government Class, most of those who wrote the constitution were fearful of a true democracy, or mobocracy as some called it. Are you part of that mob they referred to?

I believe our presidents are still elected according to Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution and the 12th Amendment to the Constitution. AKA the Electorial College.

As I recall, having the greatest number of votes nation wide is not the way we elect a President under our form of government, at least as it currently stands.

If you want to elect the President purely on the basis of popular vote then lets amend the Constitution.

Wow! That's one of the most even handled, non accusatory replies to one of my sarcastic jabs from anyone here ever!!

Of course I know the system of our government and how we elect our President and have no problem with it...I...I'm just floored that you had a well reasoned and polite response to an off-the-cuff remark. For once, I'm at a loss for words, although I am impressed with your style, even if it is tilted to the right.

 

[Tigger_Magic]

I believe he is unburdened, so to speak, with having to pander to anyone because it is doubtful he will seek office again. Same with Cheney. I don't think either exactly cares or strives to be statesmen. They seem to like doing exactly what they want to do. Some politicians fade away and some speak their minds.

Quite true and I have no desire to deny him his freedom to speak as he sees fit. I simply believe it is sad that he has chosen the route he follows. The old adage about flies, honey and vinegar comes to mind...