Info about new ships..

[Horace Horsecollar]

all I was doing was repeating what was told to me.

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but the next piece of information I hear...from a DCL cast member or anyone...will NOT be posted on this board.

You were careful in your wording to explain the source of the rumor, and not to present it as a fact. And nobody who posted to this thread attacked you. Your post started a legitimate discussion about the status of a DCL fleet expansion, and whether the CM at the hotel was providing genuine new information or not.

Again, please don't take anything that I posted (or that anyone else posted) as an attack. And please don't let the discussion discourage you from participating on this board.

 

[GhostlyHitchhiker]

My DH was stationed in Japan for three years and we went with him! We were there when DisneySea opened and did get a chance to go. It was wonderful! We actually went to Tokyo Disneyland twice and DisneySea once. It is REALLY easy to get around without knowing the language. Trust me, I'm NOT fluent in Japanese, but I had taken a few courses. Face characters are often non-Japanese with English as their primary language. We were just about swamped a few times by characters wanting to talk in English for a while.

We are learning the language for more than just going to Tokyo Disney. When we do our Japan trip in the next few years, we're doing a "Japan trip" not just a "Disney Japan trip". Even if everything was in English we'd take the time to learn the language. So much of their culture is respect related, we just consider it a form of respect to take the time to learn it. It's not super hard, you just have to remember to add the respect forms to nearly every word. We're also learning to read Kanji (can already read some hiragana and katakana). Someone once said that if you can speak a language but not read it, it still makes you illiterate in that language. Absolutely true, and it's not something I had ever thought of before.

Sorry to derail the thread a little. Back to your regularly scheduled rumors (but I'm glad I read it, so don't be discouraged posting) on new ships.

 

[natsmom125]

Horace and guys......I will not be discouraged from posting on the boards...
don't worry about that.....

But the next time somebody tells me something concerning the ships...I won't repeat it...

Thanks to those who posted kind comments.....

Phyllis

 

[jgmklmhem]

Just to add more rumor to the fire here a blurb from Al Lutz's recent column over at miceage.com:

In addition, the popularity of Downtown Disney has continued, and even during the brief recession of '01 and '02 the upscale mall couldn't get people in to its stores and restaurants fast enough every weekend. A major expansion of Downtown Disney is slated to begin just as soon as the 50th events end next year. The west coast premiere of the Disney Cruise Line went over very well this past summer, and it's currently planned as the next location for Disney's third ship, for at least 6 to 8 months out of every year.

 

[captaincrash]

Well now....

1st off I'd like to say I think it's wonderful to pick up info, opinons, rumors and ether on things dreamt last nite! Hey.... we're all just a few keystrokes away from the second star to the right as we day dream and share our thoughts here?! .... eh?

SO - with that aside - I actually never realized there was a DIsney sea park at Tokyo... wow! And as for considerations about sailing the Thames on DCL... what could be more mystical? Maybe they could play Peter pan on the outdoor screen while moored near big ben? How's that for a vision? Or - as for HK Disney ... odd conduct aside with trash and potty routines... I still think it would be a rich experience with the diversity, rich historical opportunities and simple rarity of circumstance in being there in the region. They obviously should have a Mulan routine mixed into the routine.

Heck... I'm just a little somber in thinking our little ones will have likely grown beyond that magical young age where everything "Disney" is an all powerful exercise of fantasy turned into tangible reality! With that thought in mind the Mouse has my vacation dollar - up to a point just shy of my "value" threshold!

Anyways.... I think it's nice (and predictible) that DCL will launch a 3rd ship eventually. It seems so obvious since they seem to do so well with 2 ships and a limited routine of port routes. AND... of course having the new ship embark on new routes in the Carib AND switching off trans canal to hit California is such a natural tactic.

I just am slightly somber about sailing a Mexican route from LA. We live in LA and have never taken a Mexican Riviera cruise before (except we are scheduled for our 1st for Valentines day 2006). Oh yeah, we've done the little 3 and 4 day deals to Ensenada - but I think it offers limited appeal as it is not very exotic being a Southern Californian native of 42 years. Maybe I'll feel differently after next Februarys' cruise.

I think for my travel dollar I would prefer to TRAVEL some distance and see places, hear sounds, and generally enliven the senses with new places not wlaked through before by my spouse and I. AND if it can be done with DCL then for the moment I am certain it would be our preferred family destination carrier without question.

With Eisners' departure this probably suspended a lot of strategic planning for Disney. So with the new guy at the helm maybe we'll get some new ships and tolerable pricing on DCL sailings before our grandkids (or great grandkids) come alone!

TTFN

 

[996turbos]

I for one was just practicing some good natured ribbibing. Sorry if I poked to hard. Post away, that's what keeps this board so fun and alive.

 

[krdisneybound]

I'm just happy that the Tokyo DisneySea Hotel MiraCosta is now in The Disney Collection with DVC points. ;-D
Kim

We stayed at the MiraCosta Hotel next to DisneySea when we were there. Am so glad to hear that they are in the Disney Collection with DVC points. How wonderful. Would go back in a heart beat w/o hesitation.

 

[Michelle2]

I am headed there in 2 months! Just made my reservations last night for Mira Costa, and got it at the cheapest value rate....wow, I didn't expect that! I cannot wait to go.

1st off I'd like to say I think it's wonderful to pick up info, opinons, rumors and ether on things dreamt last nite! Hey.... we're all just a few keystrokes away from the second star to the right as we day dream and share our thoughts here?! .... eh?

I totally agree....no matter how ligit or not, I LOVE hearing about any rumors that have to do with Disney. I always take it with a grain of salt, but I love it anyways. It is always fun to dream big for the future! Thanks Phyllis

 

[pppiglet]

captaincrash....which ship are you on over Valentines 2006? We will be on Carnival Pride that week to the Mexican Riviera. We went on the West Coast Magic when it was here and we had a great time! It was our first cruise though.

 

[payogie]

It is my understanding that Disney is simply waiting for the Dollar to strengthen.
And the name is the Disney Dream.

 

[GenieDana]

And also remember that "plans" = intent. However, Disney probably has some concept drawings, and other "Imagineering" for public spaces but most likely does not have design drawings (construction plans) for the ship. Ship design is done with the shipyard (even if a 3rd party naval architect is comissioned), so design of the ship would not occur before a contract is signed with the shipyard. That process can take 6 months, or more, before the first steel is even cut.

 

[ivanova]

And also remember that "plans" = intent. However, Disney probably has some concept drawings, and other "Imagineering" for public spaces but most likely does not have design drawings (construction plans) for the ship. Ship design is done with the shipyard (even if a 3rd party naval architect is comissioned), so design of the ship would not occur before a contract is signed with the shipyard. That process can take 6 months, or more, before the first steel is even cut.

Several different sources at DCL, including Tom McAlpin, have specifically said the plans are "done" but they were waiting for other things (like the dollar to strengthen against the Euro) before signing a contract.

 

[goin2disneyagain]

Sorry to pour water on your info, but no CM would be permitted to divulge information such as this, especially to DisBoarders. Too many stories get distorted.

As the OP stated, the CM thought she was on the "Board", not the DIS board. Also, just because a CM is not supposed to say something doesn't mean they won't. Obviously none of us knows if this is true or not, the OP was just passing along information that was given to her.

 

[Danthesand]

Alll the major shipyards are already fully booked until 2010.

So anyone thinking we'll see a new DCL ship before sometime around 2012 or later shouldn't hold their breath....

 

[mrsnesbit]

So what is going on with the 3rd ship anyone know any recent information? Thanks

 

[budwmn]

Until I read this thread I totally forgot some info I picked up on my 12/9/06 cruise. When speaking to an officer, I was told that DCL has put together a group who is reworking their designs for their next ships. It was added that they would be the largest ships to date (I took it as the largest afloat, but looking back, I guess it could just be in comparison to the current ships).

 

[CJLKIM]

As has been discussed, the plans for expansion of the fleet have been around for quite some time and we are all anxiously awaiting the final outcome.

While onboard in November an officer also told DH and me that they were working digilently on plans for the 3rd ship, Disney Dreams, but that it was still just plans. It was also said that they hoped to begin work on the ship within the next few years and that it has been indicated to them that she would be ported on the west coast. It was also said that she would be larger than the Magic and the Wonder.

Destinations were not mentioned although the success of the Panama cruise would indicate that Disney might choose to revisit those ports.

Again...this is what we were told by one of the officers in November and we look forward to seeing it come to pass...whenever that may be...

 

[dahuffy]

Alaska, Alaska, Alaska

Ditto,Ditto,Ditto!

 

[ivanova]

As has been discussed, the plans for expansion of the fleet have been around for quite some time and we are all anxiously awaiting the final outcome.

While onboard in November an officer also told DH and me that they were working digilently on plans for the 3rd ship, Disney Dreams, but that it was still just plans. It was also said that they hoped to begin work on the ship within the next few years and that it has been indicated to them that she would be ported on the west coast. It was also said that she would be larger than the Magic and the Wonder.

Destinations were not mentioned although the success of the Panama cruise would indicate that Disney might choose to revisit those ports.

Again...this is what we were told by one of the officers in November and we look forward to seeing it come to pass...whenever that may be...

On our November cruise we were told that there had been an official internal announcement that plans were being worked on and should be finished by the end of this month ... and then they'd be shopped around to shipyards this Spring. Depending on the shipyard bid process, it could be summer before there's even an inkling of a hint that a contract is being penned.

 

[beachblanket]

Here we go again...

Bingo - let's watch the "new ship is just around the corner" lemmings march again!!!!