In Search of My Body vol.9 - I Get By With A Little Help From My Friends

[cantwaitvaca09]

Great job Paula, only having one of each.

They year we are making chirstmas cupcakes and oreo truffles. A friend of mine made them for the party I had last week. They are so good. You can find the recipe on allrecipes.com

 

[lisaviolet]

Paula - so sorry to hear of Tom's mom - his loss and yours. to you.

Kat and Meg - hope this week is wonderful and slams the door on last week.

Ms. Jo! It's not butterpants that I detest - although I'm not a fan of that either - it's another one of your sayings. But I'm not going to type it.

Nathan has been cleared. Hallelujah praise the Lord. I should have a date momentarily. They had an opening December 22. but Nathan said no can do himself. January is already heavily booked - not sure what's left. Long story but he actually wants February. It makes me nervous but it's his life so I'm trying to exhale and just go with everything.

Love to all!

 

[SeptemberGirl]

So, looking at a thread 141 pages long is pretty daunting when about to join in. What are the basics I need to know about this thread? Just everyone working together to get healthy? I've got a lot of weight I need to lose and I'm finally ready to do it. This seems like a good place to find lots of support.

Welcome!!!

Look on the first few pages of this thread.

and this one

and this one

There's usually some introductions at the beginning.

So introduce yourself.

Ronda

You are so super helpful! Love it!!!

Well let's see, I'm 31 years old from Augusta, GA. I work and go to school full-time. I am majoring in history, so once I graduate (I guess in about 2 years) I will start teaching. So I think a lot of what I don't do can be solved with a little time management, but saying is not doing.

Basically, I'm trying to give myself a little kick in the pants to start exercising. I am 6'6, and a little over 320lbs, which when I write it down looks really insane. At this point, I'm just really telling myself that it's time to do this.

I'm gonna start slowly on the diet, because there is a lot that needs to be changed there, switching over to water full-time will need to be the first thing. As for exercise, doing any right now will be good. If I start doing something, I'll actually be productive, but it's the actual doing it that's the issue. So for me, it's all mental and if I can start to break that, then I'm sure it'll be full-speed ahead.

So that's a little about me and I look forward to getting to know the rest of you and hopefully learn a lot and give back as much as I can.

It doesn't sound insane.

It's all mental, with all of us. We have a weight problem in our head, not in our hips. Glad you are here!

I know how you feel. My name is Jo and I joined these FABULOUS GODDESS last November at 200 lbs, I'm 5'2". I had just watched my 57 year old father have a 3x by pass . That was it for me. I had to get off my Butterpants (Lisa ) I cried out of help and these ladies took me in they have been a life line. I am down about 25 -27lb's I have finished 3 5K's 1 4 Miles, an 8K and a 15K I am on my way to my first half marathon in 80 some days. I am slow, and I still have a butter butt. But I am moving. I have a lot of bad days but I am still moving. Oh and not drinking pop/soda is a major problem, I only drink it once a day but I wish it was less.

Welcome to the group

I just had to quote this because look how well you have done!!! Go Jo!!!

1 year of training
$118 shoes
$200 Garmin Watch

2.5 CRAPTASTIC MILES. W... T... F....
I had to walk the last mile. What gives. Why is the cold getting me.
I need to step it up and fast. HELP!!!!

It's okay. The cold sucks. I admire you for even walking outside. I hide inside on my TM with Four Weddings (TV show) playing!

To our new addition - welcome! This is a great group of people. We all have different goals, methods and means to get there. I too started at just over 300 pounds and while I am not particularly proud of that, I am proud of how far I have come. I am proof that yes, you can exercise at that weight. I started with things like aqua aerobics and the at home walking series by Leslie Sansone. All low impact stuff to protect my knees. After I lost the first 30 pounds or so I started going to the gym where I strength train. I trained and finished my first 1/2 marathon with this group and later my first century ride. You can do this! The hardest part is starting. This group will inspire youth kee going if you are willing to take the first step. I am proof of that.

So - welcome! Jump in.

You are such a ROCK STAR. I hope you see that. I see it every time. Remember when I saw you a year ago and didn't recognize you because you are so tiny?

I am Kat, 34, married, live near Raleigh, NC. My diet and exercise is a vast, wild roller coaster. I have been between 220 and 160 a few times over the last few years and my ultimate goal is to pick a (hopefully lower) weight and stay there. I am closer to 220 than 160 at the moment, unfortunately.

I jumped on the running/walking wagon this year, but wound up with a stress fracture in my shin after the third half marathon and am currently benched.

Hope that you find help here! We are a crazy bunch of women but there is always room for male influence. At least, I assume you are male due to your height, please feel free to correct me if I am wrong!!!

Vast, wild rollercoaster. Love it. It's been a heck of a ride so far, hasn't it? Almost three years we've been strapped in!

I had three drinks tonight, watched one of the worst hockey games ever and then drove home in tears. (Not due to the hockey game, though the game should have brought me to tears.) I've hit a low point emotionally and I'm just done with it. Tomorrow I'm waking up and I'm going to will things to be better. (That's possible right?) And I will do my best not to let this stuff ruin my holiday spirit.

Meg - what are the tears about? Crying is like my number one activity, if only one got points for it - so no judgment there. And I really do hear you on the stuff from last week. It's a tough place to be in. I know as a parent that who takes care of your kids at that age is so critical to your own well-being - they are lucky to have you. And as an employee, it's hard to be where you are. Any updates?


So, sorry I have been MIA! I signed up for the Princess Half and started training! Woot! I did 4 miles yesterday, at a 16 min pace. This is awesome for me because I've done NOTHING for months. My goal is 14 min miles, so I can really stop and take pictures on the course! But honestly, I was totally happy with my time last year, so I don't need to be beat it. I just want to have fun!

So here is my question, and it's a big one. My weigh in day is Monday. Well, typically, we do a family dinner on Sundays. This ruins my weight for the next day. Now, maybe I should suck it up and be in control on family dinner day, but let's be real. We're talking good food here, and I firmly believe we all need a no-track day.

Do I change my weigh in day to Friday? Leaving me the rest of the week to recover from the big, fab dinner on Sundays? For example, I'm not even hungry yet from my 6pm dinner last night. (To. Die. For. Italian in Chambersburg, NJ, which is where all those Janet Evanovich novels are set!)

Thoughts?

 

[cantwaitvaca09]

Liz, when i did ww I weighed in on Wednesday. I had fresh points
For the weekend and 2 days after the weekend to work it off.

I am at about a 14:30 pace.

 

[SeptemberGirl]

I used to do Wednesdays, but if I had a bad weekend, I'd toss it off for the next two days...I loved Wednesdays but they kind of remind me of my first WW and that's a bit hard...but it's food for thought. I think it might have to be Monday or Friday for me!

or Sunday...hmmm

Your pace is awesome!!! Do you feel good with that? Are you thrilled????

 

[cathie1327]

There's a lot I'd like to share just to get it off my chest but due to the nature of what I do I can't share a lot so publicly. But it's come down to me feeling like the children are becoming less of a priority and well the teachers... we aren't a priority at all. I have been asked to do things I don't feel comfortable with and I do refuse to do them. I think I can only get away with this because they realize I'm really good at what I do and they typically just hire anyone so they know they are lucky when they get a good teacher. They don't want to push me too far because they want me to stay. Normally it's me and my co-teacher with 9 kids. We are short staffed right now due to the fact that they have lost a bunch of teachers and just aren't replacing them. So I've been asked to move my kids into an older classroom and be alone with 4 kids. It is relaxing in some ways but it is very stressful to be in a classroom for 8 hours straight and having to ask for someone to cover you any time you need to step out to pee, let alone if I need to get any supplies that aren't in my room. Not to mention the strong objection I have to moving kids into other classes. There's more but as I said I can't share it on such an open forum. I'm positive I have to find a new job but I'm struggling to figure out if I should just go back to the world of cubicles and computers or if I could find a center that was run well that I could believe in again. The worst part is my eating is so messed up because I either don't feel like eating at work or I don't eat then eat one really bad thing. I know this is not good but I feel like I spend 8-4 just trying to make sure I'm on for the kids, being on for myself is secondary right now. Sorry that all just kind of spilled out.


I'm glad you all enjoyed the story about me breaking the ball. Believe me my parents and I were all laughing so hard, my stomach was hurting I was laughing so hard.

Paula- I think you should go for the 30 minute sessions. I'm trying to put myself in your shoes and I think that would probably be the jump start to get back into the swing of things. You can always go back to the two 30 minutes and one 60 when you feel like you're back on track.

Cathie- Almost to the end of the semester, hang in there!

Ronda- Have I mentioned how glad I am that you're around? I swear reading your posts helps me even if I never really mention it.

Nancy- Chocolate mint whoopie pies? My family loves whoopie pies, tell me about these!

Liz- Sounds like an exciting and chilly time without power!

All this sneaker talk. I am probably due for new sneakers and I really don't like my pair I have now. I'm almost afraid to go back to the store I got them at. I need to find out how to get the right sneakers for a person with bunions.

Thanks for the encouragement-I'm working my butt off right now it feels like but no one said art was a quick, easy process haha.

And on the teaching thing....I don't teach, but I want to tell you you're not alone. My best friend is a para in the special ed room in the district I went to school in, and she has a breakdown pretty much weekly because it seems like there's just not enough emphasis, enough compassion for the kids that go to school there. It's very frustrating for her and hard to see her struggle. So to you because I know that it is a very stressful thing to handle.

Just realized that I never checked in yesterday. Oops....

Spent the day in Massachusetts attend my best friend's mom's funeral. It was a tough day. Everyone is doing as well as they can be but it is still hard.

Food wise it was just as rough given that we were in the road for the day. Looking back I see that I ate way too many carbs and not enough fruit and veggies. Today is a new day so it is time to get back on tracki have a workout scheduled for tomorrow so that is good. I still don't know what to do about my overall workout schedule. I may hold off on doing anything until after the holidays so that I don't go insane.

Make it a great day everyone!

Sorry it's a couple days late, but to you too Paula....I can only imagine how tough this has been for you to watch your friend go through something like this.

Well let's see, I'm 31 years old from Augusta, GA. I work and go to school full-time. I am majoring in history, so once I graduate (I guess in about 2 years) I will start teaching. So I think a lot of what I don't do can be solved with a little time management, but saying is not doing.

Basically, I'm trying to give myself a little kick in the pants to start exercising. I am 6'6, and a little over 320lbs, which when I write it down looks really insane. At this point, I'm just really telling myself that it's time to do this.

I'm gonna start slowly on the diet, because there is a lot that needs to be changed there, switching over to water full-time will need to be the first thing. As for exercise, doing any right now will be good. If I start doing something, I'll actually be productive, but it's the actual doing it that's the issue. So for me, it's all mental and if I can start to break that, then I'm sure it'll be full-speed ahead.

So that's a little about me and I look forward to getting to know the rest of you and hopefully learn a lot and give back as much as I can.

WELCOME!!!!!!! I'm also a full time student while working full time, I major in art and marketing. I have a LONG way to go though, probably another 4-5 years before I'm done.

This is a great group that can give great support and advice anytime it's needed-on everything. While they're particularly wonderful in helping with weight loss, they're great with everything else too

I had three drinks tonight, watched one of the worst hockey games ever and then drove home in tears. (Not due to the hockey game, though the game should have brought me to tears.) I've hit a low point emotionally and I'm just done with it. Tomorrow I'm waking up and I'm going to will things to be better. (That's possible right?) And I will do my best not to let this stuff ruin my holiday spirit.

 

[cathie1327]

Hi all-boy I really hate being MIA for more than a couple of days around here-it takes me forever to catch up! But this is a really slow day at work, so I had the time, plus I needed some positivity in my thoughts, and I knew I'd find it here.

I weighed myself this morning. I've lost another pound. Which isn't ALOT. But considering that I haven't been able to exercise at all, we just came off of Thanksgiving, and we've had tons of sweets around at the house and work lately....I'm pretty proud of that little pound lol.

I hope everyone had a great weekend. Mine was full of a lot of mixed emotions. I guess since I have the time, I can update you guys. My brother is in jail right now, awaiting his second deposition. What happens to him from here really depends on a lot of things, but he got arrested in September and right now has a class 3 felony, a class 4 felony, and two class 5 felonies against him.

Now, most of you know that my brother and I aren't on good terms...we're really on no terms. Like, he just doesn't really exist to me pretty much anymore. So I TOTALLY think he deserves what's coming to him. He's made my family suffer ENOUGH in his 19 years of life, and he made the awful decisions leading up to this. He knew what kind of choices he was making. I have no sympathy for him.

We went to decorate my parents' Christmas tree last night. They invited us over to have Chicken Noodle Soup (tradition) and put up decorations. My mom had a chip on her shoulder... pretty much all night...and it didn't take long before she was in a funk, refusing to participate because she was sad because my brother was all she could think about. Now, I completely understand where she's coming from. He's her son. He's in jail and not with us for Christmas. She certainly has something to be sad about. We thought he'd be in jail LAST Christmas but he got out just in time, so this is the first year she's been without him. But it was REALLY frustrating...especially after my grandpa's death last year, that she couldn't be happy that those of us that were there were together. That she can't SEE how much HEALTHIER my family has been since my brother's been in jail. My dad is happy now...he actually smiles now. We don't all fight. There's not tension there anymore. They don't have to lock EVERYTHING up. They can actually leave the office and their bedroom open and unlocked. I know it's a crappy situation, but everytime she starts feeling okay about it, it's like she has to start ignoring all the positive so she can stay feeling crappy about it...it's very hard to watch because A) it frustrates me that she's so hung up over him B)it frustrates me that he's not even here and he's STILL hurting people and C)I know he's an awful person that doesn't deserve that kind of emotion. So that kind of drug down the night. My dad finally got her to knock it off but by that time I was already pretty frazzled. It's hard to be supportive when she makes it seem like the rest of us can't possibly make a good holiday if he's not there.

Sorry. Long winded I know. But really, just one more thing then I'll shut up.

I've been thinking alot lately about addictions. And realizing I have toooo many of them. Caffiene. Sugar. Food. Cigarettes. Soda.

I've been working on the soda and food thing for a while...but with my health not getting any better, I figured it can only help to kick them all. FOR GOOD. The cigarettes will be the hardest, I think, simply because it's such a habitual and social thing. But that's why I think right now will be the best time-I rarely get to see anyone because I'm glued to the couch feeling crappy, so it'll be a lot easier to do. My goal is to be DONE with them by the end of the year. I'm starting today, but I know I'll have a few slip ups. But I really want to just be DONE with it. It's so awful for me. And I can't work on becoming healthy in only one way, I have to do it all.

Okay, really. REALLY shutting up now!

 

[Ronda93]

Cathie - I'm going to jump in here and say, just like paying down the biggest debt first, start with the thing that affects your health more than ANYTHING you mentioned. Cigarettes. I wasn't a very committed smoker and quit when it became hard to do at work. Avoid places that make it easy.

Ronda

 

[cathie1327]

Cathie - I'm going to jump in here and say, just like paying down the biggest debt first, start with the thing that affects your health more than ANYTHING you mentioned. Cigarettes. I wasn't a very committed smoker and quit when it became hard to do at work. Avoid places that make it easy.

Ronda

Oh yes, I absolutely intend to make this my priority. The hardest part, for me, will just be when I'm around other people. Doing something different on my breaks at work. Just changing the habit of it. After I can get past that, I know I'll be fine!!!!

Thanks for the encouragement and advice

 

[cantwaitvaca09]

Cathie,

I use to be a smoker, I quit when I got pPG with my first daughter, I went back to smoking after I stopped nursing her. Then she was not 2 yet and we were going to disney for our first time staying on property, I thought it was tacky to be smoking at disney with my baby, so I quit the week before we left. It was not that bad, not to long after I got PG with my second daughter
I don't miss smoking, I don't ever think about. I felt so much better with in the first month alone. You can do this. We are here to support you.

 

[robmck3898]

Good luck on stopping smoking Cathie, one of my co-workers is doing that right now, definitely the habit to break first.

 

[robmck3898]

Speaking of habits, I need to stop my habit of putting too much food in my mouth. I've quickly found lately, that going out to eat is an addiction. My coworkers go out all the time, I start thinking about going home, but then get sucked right back into going out with them. Tomorrow, I'm leaving the debit card at home and making myself come and eat something healthy.

As for exercise, I think I'm about to start right now. I keep putting it off, due to wanting to be lazy, but it's time for that to stop. Anyways, that's my little rant for now. I'm off to be productive. I'll report back later.

 

[Ronda93]

Checking in...

tracking 5/7 - yea!
exercise - 3 days of running. on target. I did seven miles Saturday. Saturdays have started to go like this: run a mile, DGF joins me, we run three miles together and then I run some more to get to my goal. The last two weeks my effort to run a bit further, turn around and go the right distance has been futile... last week I was half a mile short... this week I was nearly a mile long. I need to PLAN. I cannot do decimal division math and listen to all my running podcasts at the same time!
weight - it's not a goal, but it's holding steady. Weighing on Friday is good for me. Weekend derail me.

Cookiefest, round II is this week. Last week's cookies went to the animal shelter for the open house. We volunteer as dog walkers and they needed cookies. This week's cookies go to church. I sample and proudly!

DGF is feeling so much better. She had a nasty cold that laid her low last week.

The weather has turned ugly cold. Tomorrow morning a low of 15 will make me change my run plan. I will harness the power of the sun to make it tolerable. We'll see.

Dinner was an enormous helping of shrimp pad thai. I don't do points, but it was 600 calories of heaven.

Ronda

 

[Ronda93]

robmck3839 - You work close enough to home to go home for lunch? Cool! When I go to work at 6:00 a.m. it takes 10 minutes. At lunchtime it's more like 15. Just a bit too far. Can you bring your lunch? If I pack a lunch the night before I'm primed to do well.

Looking forward to your report!

Ronda

 

[robmck3898]

robmck3839 - You work close enough to home to go home for lunch? Cool! When I go to work at 6:00 a.m. it takes 10 minutes. At lunchtime it's more like 15. Just a bit too far. Can you bring your lunch? If I pack a lunch the night before I'm primed to do well.

Looking forward to your report!

Ronda

Yeah, this is only recent though, so that's why I need to make it a habit. I bought a home a few months ago and it takes me less than 10 minutes to get home during lunch. I'm really thankful for being so close, because I should make good use out of it.

I just got done with a 2 1/2 mile walk, which for me is a great start and now I just need to do it again tomorrow and make a habit out of it. I would really love to be jogging in a week or two and then transition to my goals of running a 5k, 10k, and finally the Disney half marathon. I'm not sure if that last goal will be ready by 2012 but if I work hard, I don't see why not.

Btw, Shrimp pad thai sounds amazing. Is that a home recipe or get it from a thai place?

 

[HockeyKat]

Rob (can I call you Rob?), I started out as a complete non-runner and got completely addicted. I did three halfs this year and already have two on the schedule for next year, assuming the stress fracture heals as it should.


Cathie. I don't mean to add insult to injury nor preach, but you have hit a nerve. I returned an hour ago from a funeral for a 67 year old man who died of COPD (emphysema). His wife (my husband's aunt) died at 62 of lung cancer. In front of us were sitting my in-laws, who are also in the process of dying from smoking-related illnesses. My 67 yr old FIL barely even realized that he was at his best friend's funeral, as his stage 4 congestive heart failure has resulted in vascular dementia. He also has COPD and has had one surgery to remove lung cancer. My MIL, at 65, has two stents in her kidney and femoral artery, also due to smoking-related vascular disease. FWIW, none of the people above were remotely overweight ever in their lives, so that was not a complication.


Okay, off soapbox. I hate December. Did I mention that? I am back on the wagon after this week as all holiday parties will have passed.

 

[robmck3898]

Rob (can I call you Rob?), I started out as a complete non-runner and got completely addicted. I did three halfs this year and already have two on the schedule for next year, assuming the stress fracture heals as it should.

Yes, def. call me Rob. That's kinda what I'm thinking will happen to me, once I start I'll get addicted to it. Right now I just want to work on building up my legs a little because I've had a tendency to get shin splints, so working off some of the weight and going slow will help with that.

Stress fractures are never fun, but I'm sure you'll come back from it stronger for it. Just don't rush it.

How long did it take you to build up to where you thought you were comfortable running a half?

 

[HockeyKat]

Yes, def. call me Rob. That's kinda what I'm thinking will happen to me, once I start I'll get addicted to it. Right now I just want to work on building up my legs a little because I've had a tendency to get shin splints, so working off some of the weight and going slow will help with that.

Stress fractures are never fun, but I'm sure you'll come back from it stronger for it. Just don't rush it.

How long did it take you to build up to where you thought you were comfortable running a half?

I would actually recommend visiting a sports med doc and/or running shoe store for fitting shoes/orthotics for your shin splints. I started out that way, and I think if I had wound up with the right shoes and orthotics back then, I could have avoided the stress fracture in my shin (yes E and Nancy, I hear an echo of I told you so!!).


Okay, now for the running story. Long, so for those not named Rob, feel free to skip!!

I am crazy. This crowd convinced me a year ago in December 2009 to sign up for the Princess half marathon in March 2010, never having run before. I started with primarily walking, and throwing in running intervals here and there. I did two days a week of a short run/walk (2-3 miles), starting with an 8 min walk, 1 min run interval. I did a long walk each week as well, starting with 3 and building up to 11, based on a training plan designed by Erika (3DisneyKids). I primarily walked the Princess, but finished addicted.

Erika, Nancy (AKASnowWhite), Liz (SeptemberGirl), EE (adstrw), Amy (amykab), and Paula (goofyfan-12) and I all did it together and had a blast! We are planning on a repeat in 2011.

Granted, at the time I started training, I was 220 lbs at 5'8, so roughly 60-70 lbs overweight, but not a complete couch potato. I play ice hockey (poorly) and had kept that up once a week throughout 2009. By the time I did the half, I was at 195.

Anyhow, back to running... Based on Erika's recommendation, I researched Galloway and found a Galloway training group in the Raleigh area, and joined them in May 2010. They build up over 6 weeks to a 10 min long run on Saturday mornings, and then do that weekly. Your 2 short runs during the week are on your own. I run with either the 12 min or 13 min pace group. The 12s do a 2:1 (2 min run, 1 min walk) interval, and the 13s do a 1:1. Galloway's method trains 2 min/mile slow for long runs, so 12 min pace groups do a 14 min pace assuming a 60 degree temp. Considering I live in NC, that sure didn't happen often this summer!! He adds 30 seconds for every 5 degrees over 60 so we were usually in the 15-16 range.

I love my Galloway group. We are the largest in the country, with almost 500 members, so each pace group has a healthy number (10-70). I did my third half at the Outer Banks on Nov 14th, with 6 from my pace group. It is so encouraging to run/walk with those at your level and I think it helps tons with motivation.

I generally do the two short runs and one long as recommended, and 2-3 days of cross training (hockey, usually, or yoga/pilates).

Right now I am on hiatus and plan on beginning this week with some pool running and maybe biking, and then I am allowed back to hockey this weekend.

Geez, that *was* long!!

 

[cathie1327]

Rob (can I call you Rob?), I started out as a complete non-runner and got completely addicted. I did three halfs this year and already have two on the schedule for next year, assuming the stress fracture heals as it should.


Cathie. I don't mean to add insult to injury nor preach, but you have hit a nerve. I returned an hour ago from a funeral for a 67 year old man who died of COPD (emphysema). His wife (my husband's aunt) died at 62 of lung cancer. In front of us were sitting my in-laws, who are also in the process of dying from smoking-related illnesses. My 67 yr old FIL barely even realized that he was at his best friend's funeral, as his stage 4 congestive heart failure has resulted in vascular dementia. He also has COPD and has had one surgery to remove lung cancer. My MIL, at 65, has two stents in her kidney and femoral artery, also due to smoking-related vascular disease. FWIW, none of the people above were remotely overweight ever in their lives, so that was not a complication.


Okay, off soapbox. I hate December. Did I mention that? I am back on the wagon after this week as all holiday parties will have passed.

Wow---Kat that's a lot to handle

This is exactly why I'm quitting. I've been smoking for over a year. It started as nothing more than a social habit, and then just kind of became more and more of a regular thing over time. I kept thinking I wasn't addicted and could stop any time I wanted. It was just the other day that I realized it's been well over a year....and that I was definitely addicted. I realized how upset I used to get thinking that I could lose my mom before she gets a chance to really have an impact on my children's lives (I lost my grandmother young, and have always been sad about the fact that as a woman, I never got to know her) because of her smoking....and I realized that if I kept this up, I would be doing the same thing to my children. Very sobering...


And....as much as my heart hurts for you....I NEEDED to hear what you just said. I just got off a VERY heated phone call with my mother, and the first thing I thought when I got off was "I WANT A CIGARETTE!!!" And came on here instead. Thank you....for giving me a reason to stop and think. Thank you so much for sharing. Seeing it though someone else's eyes sometimes is EXACTLY what I need.

 

[cantwaitvaca09]

Kat, I am right there with you. On top of my fathers 3x bypass and everthing else he as COPD also, and still smokes one right after the other. I can not even be at his house that long we all come out smelling pretty bad. He is 58, and at this rate, I hope he makes it to 68

Cathie, it will only be hard for a week or two, thats it. You can do it.