In laws Grrrrrrrrr

Can you not be secure enough with yourself you know what you will do and forget whatever crazy MIL does? I mean if you don't want cheesecake and don't want to make it then don't bother. MIL can fume all she wants. She just looks crazier for doing it.

Yep, this is totally correct! I would never have even 'gone there'.. I would just have remained non-committal, and MIL would have to either deal, or show her true colors. ;)

I have learned to not even discuss specific information, not even the menu, with people like this... it is handing them the AMMO!!!!!

'Diplomat' :rotfl2:
Yes, being raised in that household, your husband learned very well!!! :goodvibes

PS: OMG, I am just cracking myself up.... not that you would or should do this... but it would be awesome if you could find some way to sabotage MIL's precious cheesecake!!!!!!
:rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2:
 
Seriously, sometimes I can't believe this is my life. I think I need to write a book, it's just too many layers of ridiculous to be believed.

Now I have to go find Breakstones whipped cream cheese because it won't be right without it. My atonement for making a better flippin cheesecake. My life is a sit-com
 
Please don't think I'm not taking the advice here seriously. You guys really do help but what works for one family doesn't necessarily work for another. In my case I have already been forced to cut myself off from my own family tree so if I cut us off from this crew we'd be alone, and I don't want that for my DH and my kids.... there is no-one else. What kind of life is that for my family:sad2: Sure it would be better if this sort of silliness never happened but it's not all up to me.

So I spoke with DH and he was ok with this compromise but he thought it would be best if he were the one to talk with her. He just called me and MIL was THRILLED to be invited over to make the cheesecake with us as a family tonight. Crisis averted:rotfl2:

In all seriousness, DH would make an excellent diplomat in the UN:lmao:

:yay: now make sure to read this too http://health.yahoo.net/articles/heart/dont-be-holiday-heart-attack :rolleyes1
 
So yesterday we had to cancel because my son was called to a Basketball game.

Tonight we made the cheesecake. Well not really we. My husband and his Mom made the cheesecake while I was busy making MY favorite holiday treats with my 2 kids, Struffoli & Raspberry Shortbread cookies as close to Linzer tarts as I can get them and then as a peace offering i helped her make her favorite Ricotta cookies. We were all in the kitchen though at different stations with Christmas music playing and I was singing happily off key, like I do. Of course a smidge of Grand Mariner helped ease the pain... everything is easier with that tasty treat. I will have more on hand.

DH came over and gave me a HUGE hug and thanked me for stepping up with all this.

All is well
 

I do not tolerate manipulation period. That is why it is hard for us to give you advice because you do.

I would have moved away or got divorced.
Exactly. We moved away. I can guarantee you that if we'd stayed, we'd be divorced today. It was a nightmare and that was with my dh standing his ground and standing up for me every time. (His brother did not stand up and it was actually worse for them because my ILs were bullies and the more you gave in, the more they would push and the worse they would treat you.)

We did not put up with crap -- but they still managed to make it (by showing up at my workplace and calling me a slut etc). I could write a horror story about the stuff they pulled on me (including on my wedding day and when we discovered we had infertility problems). There was almost 13 years of hell before we left. But that also meant we left MY family and our friends behind -- so there was a tremendous cost to gaining peace.

I have repeatedly told my dd to marry an orphan. I'm not kidding either.

The one interesting development is that when my evil MIL died :banana: a few years later, my FIL did apologize for the crap they'd done to me. He said that looking back, he can't believe what they did and how they treated me and that I'm actually a good and nice person and maybe it was his wife being determined that no woman was good enough for her son so she was trying to drive me away so she'd have her son all to herself again? Ya think?
 
So yesterday we had to cancel because my son was called to a Basketball game.

Tonight we made the cheesecake. Well not really we. My husband and his Mom made the cheesecake while I was busy making MY favorite holiday treats with my 2 kids, Struffoli & Raspberry Shortbread cookies as close to Linzer tarts as I can get them and then as a peace offering i helped her make her favorite Ricotta cookies. We were all in the kitchen though at different stations with Christmas music playing and I was singing happily off key, like I do. Of course a smidge of Grand Mariner helped ease the pain... everything is easier with that tasty treat. I will have more on hand.

DH came over and gave me a HUGE hug and thanked me for stepping up with all this.

All is well

:thumbsup2
 
So yesterday we had to cancel because my son was called to a Basketball game.

Tonight we made the cheesecake. Well not really we. My husband and his Mom made the cheesecake while I was busy making MY favorite holiday treats with my 2 kids, Struffoli & Raspberry Shortbread cookies as close to Linzer tarts as I can get them and then as a peace offering i helped her make her favorite Ricotta cookies. We were all in the kitchen though at different stations with Christmas music playing and I was singing happily off key, like I do. Of course a smidge of Grand Mariner helped ease the pain... everything is easier with that tasty treat. I will have more on hand.

DH came over and gave me a HUGE hug and thanked me for stepping up with all this.

All is well

Good, I asked way back in the beginning of this thread and I think it got lost...what kind of dog do you show? We show also.
 
So yesterday we had to cancel because my son was called to a Basketball game.

Tonight we made the cheesecake. Well not really we. My husband and his Mom made the cheesecake while I was busy making MY favorite holiday treats with my 2 kids, Struffoli & Raspberry Shortbread cookies as close to Linzer tarts as I can get them and then as a peace offering i helped her make her favorite Ricotta cookies. We were all in the kitchen though at different stations with Christmas music playing and I was singing happily off key, like I do. Of course a smidge of Grand Mariner helped ease the pain... everything is easier with that tasty treat. I will have more on hand.

DH came over and gave me a HUGE hug and thanked me for stepping up with all this.

All is well

You are a sweetheart and your family (including in-laws) is lucky to have you!:worship:

Best wishes for a stressfree Christmas!
 
I am so glad that all of you were able to work out a compromise.. It was stressing me out that Christmas was going to go down the toilet because of a ridiculous cheesecake - LOL..

Yes - there are issues that you are probably going to need to address, but a major holiday is not the best time to get into a major hassle..

You can wait and do that on - ummmm - January 2nd..;)
 
Exactly. We moved away. I can guarantee you that if we'd stayed, we'd be divorced today. It was a nightmare and that was with my dh standing his ground and standing up for me every time. (His brother did not stand up and it was actually worse for them because my ILs were bullies and the more you gave in, the more they would push and the worse they would treat you.)

We did not put up with crap -- but they still managed to make it (by showing up at my workplace and calling me a slut etc). I could write a horror story about the stuff they pulled on me (including on my wedding day and when we discovered we had infertility problems). There was almost 13 years of hell before we left. But that also meant we left MY family and our friends behind -- so there was a tremendous cost to gaining peace.

I have repeatedly told my dd to marry an orphan. I'm not kidding either.
The one interesting development is that when my evil MIL died :banana: a few years later, my FIL did apologize for the crap they'd done to me. He said that looking back, he can't believe what they did and how they treated me and that I'm actually a good and nice person and maybe it was his wife being determined that no woman was good enough for her son so she was trying to
drive me away so she'd have her son all to herself again? Ya think?

I am so sorry to read this. Your MIL sounds like a seriously deviant personality... Your poor DH, growing up with that must have been a horror.

A very nice priest once told me something extremely kind. I was crying and sad over the family I come from and he said, "Never forget the most beautiful flowers grow out of the worst filth." I'll never forget that:goodvibe



Thanks, my feelings on it too:thumbsup2

Good, I asked way back in the beginning of this
thread and I think it got lost...what kind of dog do you show? We show also.

Sorry I didn't answer. We don't show, I wanted to go and look for someone who breeds King Charles Springer Spaniels. I'm still looking, Mommy needs a new baby.


You are a sweetheart and your family (including in-laws) is lucky to have you!:worship:

Best wishes for a stressfree Christmas!

Thank you for saying so. I wish they'd see it that way but I doubt it. At least DH and kids think I'm a keeper

I am so glad that all of you were able to work
out a compromise.. It was stressing me out that Christmas was going to go down the toilet because of a ridiculous cheesecake - LOL..

Yes - there are issues that you are probably going to need to address, but a major holiday is not the best time to get into a major hassle..

You can wait and do that on - ummmm - January 2nd..;)

I would love to think the in-laws are fixer-uppers I can work with but I am afraid they are more on the as-is side. No worries though, I've got a thick skin, AND their son and Grandkids... They won't push too hard;)
 
what gives?

Why does anything need to "give"?

LO wasn't saying "what has to give". Rather, "what gives?" is a phrase that means "what is up with that", or "why are you saying that?"

We are so terribly sad right now for them and I just read this crap about a freaking cheesecake and seriously live is way to short - which is what I meant by perspective. Unless it is something very serious and food is not serious - then make it work - don't threaten to not show up because a cheesecake is on the table :headache:

Make the most of every day as you just never know and if that means putting up with a bit of crap to make it easier on your DH then you do it.

That is where you are right now. But people can't live that way long-term. LO has obviously been bending over backwards, and IMO continued to do so by having MIL over to make the cheesecake, for years. This isn't good for HER health. So to save people a little hassle, she could be shortening her own life.

When my mom died and I had to go back to work at amazon customer service and had to hear people complaining that their mother's day gifts might not make it ontime, you bet I thought some uncharitable things! My last gift to my mom was a CD that she never got to listen to, as she died suddenly shortly after receiving it.

But with time comes the realization that things are important. The gifts people wanted me to check on were important to them. A MIL making a woman crazy with the manipulation is important. These things are important, and we don't have to break ourselves just b/c someone else has had a tragedy happen.


No worries though, I've got ... their son and Grandkids... They won't push too hard;)

My MIL is in her 70s and she's changing bit by bit. Why? Well, I refused to see her for over a year. Which slowed down the visits of her son and grandson. Made the visits that did happen shorter, too, as the visits were over weekends when I was at home alone. They didn't want to leave me all day, so they'd come home. My MIL had pushed me one last time and I refused to deal with it any longer. I still took care of her from afar, I did business stuff for her (she's Korean and since FIL died her English skills have gotten even worse, so I do some phoning for her), I look things up, etc etc, but I would NOT go see her. That lifted as she seemed to be changing, and now my presence is welcome, welcomed, and she doesn't pull crud on me anymore. And it allowed hubby to make sure she knows that she is not to get on his case about his weight in front of our son; if she does so, she will not see either of them any longer (MIL pretty much caused hubby's weight issues, and can spin him into a binge quicker than anything else, even as he approaches 40; it's dangerous for him when she gets on his case, and she always gets it wrong, seeing weight loss when he's gained and gains when he's lost).

She's changed because she caught a glimpse of what life would be like without the son that is now the "good" son (he even has her POA now, she took it from her eldest son when she realized that we were 100% in the situation with her husband, and the eldest son was helping her make all the worst decisions) and especially without her beloved grandson.



I would never have invited her over for the cheesecake nonsense. You were so worried about her winning...
 

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OP, I am glad that this worked out for you all, especially now, over the holdays!!!!

But, in all good conscience, I have to issue a very big 'second' to these comments.

That is where you are right now. But people can't live that way long-term. LO has obviously been bending over backwards, and IMO continued to do so by having MIL over to make the cheesecake, for years. This isn't good ...

From what I read in your posts, to not see that you and your husband and your kids and your life and your marriage are squarely and firmly under this woman's thumb, seems to be complete and total denial.

PS: I can say that I would never, ever, have gotten together with my MIL to prepare anything, because she is so evil and horrid that she would never have agreed to get together and accept my input... And, if we did work together, she would be the woman that would sabotage the recipe... (she is the stealth ninja) So, while I am saying, above, that the OP's situation is not right, normal, healthy... I do know that others have it far worse!!!!
 


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