Impressions of National Geographic as an alternative to ABD

Calfan

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CaliforniaGirl09 and I are just back from our first trip with National Geographic. We did their England Coast to Coast trip, hiking 137 miles over 11 days from the Irish Sea to the North Sea in Northern England. We had an incredibly positive experience with NatGeo and thought we would share some of what made the trip so great since we know folks on these boards are occasionally looking for alternatives to ABD.

This trip was a National Geographic Adventures trip and is best suited for adults (18 and over). However, NatGeo runs a host of family adventures and, based on our recent experience, I definitely want to try one of those. My family is looking seriously at the NatGeo Ireland Family Adventure for 2017 (we are doing China with Thomson Family Adventures in 2016).

Our positive experience with NatGeo started even before the trip began. NatGeo assigns a trip coordinator for each departure, and this person is available to help with pre-trip logistics and to answer questions. I emailed our trip coordinator numerous times with questions about the trip (e.g., what would the bag lunches consist of on the days we ate on the trail, whether there were bathroom facilities along the trail, what the terrain would be like) and she always responded promptly (even including pictures to give us an idea of the terrain). It was nice to have one person as a point of contact for these inquiries. (Thomson Family Adventures also uses this trip coordinator approach.)

Our pre-departure package (received 3-4 weeks before departure) was full of practical, useful items. It included a hardcover DK Eyewitness travel guide of Great Britain, a detailed driving map of England, a National Geographic Adventures baseball hat, metal water bottle, Neoprene pouch that I used to carry my camera accessories and I think CaliforniaGirl used for all her chargers, etc. and luggage tag, and a list of all of the trip participants, including their home towns.

And once the trip began, we were even more impressed.

We stayed at charming country inns and hotels, including some awesome pub-style hotels with great bars and common areas. Basically, it seems like NatGeo selected the best accommodations available in the towns and villages along our route.

The luggage handling was awesome. When we left a hotel, we simply left our packed bags in our hotel rooms. No early bag pulls, which was fantastic. Upon arrival at the next hotel, our bags would already be waiting for us in our rooms. No waiting for luggage to be delivered to our rooms.

The group size was another huge plus, at 14 (NatGeo limits their Adventures trips to 16 maximum, with a minimum of 8 for the trip to go; for their family adventures, the max size is 25). I was close to being able to identify everyone by name by the end of our welcome gathering and dinner and definitely knew everyone by name half way through our first day of hiking. The group size was big enough to allow for a variety of personalities and backgrounds but small enough to make real bonding possible.

We had 3 guides for our group of 14, which was also fantastic. Two of the guides accompanied us on our hikes, and the third handled all of the logistics, meal planning, baggage handling, etc. Once he had finished with these responsibilities, he would usually hike backwards from the ending point for the day (or segment) to meet us along the trail, giving us 3 trail guides. Our lead guide was Scottish but knew Northern England well, our co-guide for hiking was English and from the Yorkshire area where we were hiking, and the logistics guide was a strapping lad from New Zealand.

All meals were included with the trip (including desserts with lunch and dinner if desired) with the exception of one dinner, which was on-your-own by popular demand (since we happened to be in a large enough city to allow for a choice of dining options). We were pretty blown away by the high quality of the food. The trip became much more of a foodie trip than we would ever have thought heading into it. Soft drinks and snacks were also included everywhere, including espresso drinks like cappuccinos. We were told to simply charge everything to the NatGeo account. Alcohol was the only beverage not included.

There were a number of surprises and nice touches along the way:

At our welcome gathering, we were each given a Coast to Coast traveler’s notebook.

At one of our hotels, an in-room gift was waiting for us (locally made foot balm and soap).

One day, in addition to lunch, we took a hiking break for afternoon tea where the scones were to die for.

On one evening, we had an offsite dinner at a family-run inn that was just fantastic. We took an old-time trolley bus to get there, and the driver was a hoot. He had us in tears of laughter with his opening “monologue.” And once we got to dinner, the innkeeper was just as entertaining, but very authentic. His wife did all the cooking, and the food was amazing. That night happened to be my birthday, and the guides arranged for the innkeeper's wife to make me a birthday cake (a Victoria sponge, which is a regional specialty), which was really nice touch. The cook sent me back to the hotel with half the cake as leftovers. There was another birthday later in the trip, and the guides also arranged for a birthday cake for that celebration.

The guides often pulled out local treats for us to enjoy along the trail, like flapjack.

Both of our hiking guides took pictures along the way, which were uploaded to Dropbox so everyone can have access. Trip participants can also upload pictures to share with the group.

The farewell dinner was another highlight. Wine was included with that dinner, and the guides organized a fun trip trivia contest with prizes for first, second and third place. They also handed out personalized gag gifts for each guest, presented along with an anecdote or story that gave the background for the choice of gift. So much fun.

Hopefully CaliforniaGirl will chime in if I’ve left anything out. Overall, just a fantastic trip and experience. So impressed with National Geographic.
 
That's great to hear! It is always nice to know of other tour groups out there that are worth looking into. I love the size of their groups! I also like the idea of a coordinator you can ask questions of prior to the trip. I'll definitely have to look into them.

Thanks for sharing. Sounds like you guys had a great time.
 
We (my family) did the Yellowstone family trip this past June with Nat.Geo. I must second your review Cafan that our trip was first class too. We had four guides for a group of twenty six both adults and kids. The food was terrific and we just ordered off the menu when we dined. The trip itself was run in 3 vans where everyone had a window and we were able to go places busses were not allowed. Wonderful time was had by all.
 
We (my family) did the Yellowstone family trip this past June with Nat.Geo. I must second your review Cafan that our trip was first class too. We had four guides for a group of twenty six both adults and kids. The food was terrific and we just ordered off the menu when we dined. The trip itself was run in 3 vans where everyone had a window and we were able to go places busses were not allowed. Wonderful time was had by all.

Great to hear the positive feedback on the family trip!
 
Glad to hear you had such a good experience, Calfan! I haven't done a land trip with Nat Geo but we did the Nat Geo/Lindblad collaboration in the Galapagos and it was the best tour experience we've had. It was just fantastic in every way. One point to consider for families is that Nat Geo's children's rate applies to anyone under 18, rather than 11 and under, like ABD.
 
One point to consider for families is that Nat Geo's children's rate applies to anyone under 18, rather than 11 and under, like ABD.

This is great for us, since my kids are currently 11 and 13. We can take advantage of that child rate for a while :)
 
......and you get a full size bed for the child if he/she is a third person in your group.
 
Thanks so much, Calfan for doing the awesome write up for the team. You hit everything I had on my list. It was such an AMAZING experience on every level.

Nat Geo pretty much blew me away. I will definitely be doing another adult adventure with them (Scotland!), and I'm hoping to try the family trips out as well. I've been so locked into ABD that I think I convinced myself that they were the best that was out there. In other words, I think I had a little too much pixie dust :) But this opened my eyes in a big way. On pretty much every level Nat Geo exceeded my recent experiences with ABD. The guides were fantastic, and there was *way* more of them per person, giving much more of an opportunity to get to really know them. Having that third guide/facilitator also made a huge difference. It was so nice to not have to get our luggage out (or leave it in the hall), and come back to the new hotel with our bags already in the room. I felt like there were way more "surprises" and special touches than I'm used to with ABD, and they didn't feel quite so obvious but more a part of the overall experience. I loved how so many of our snacks were regional favorites (you did leave out my favorite gingerbread!). Lately with ABD, it seems like the guides go way out of the way to make you know this is an "extra." Now, that's probably a function of these boards, but I've still noticed it.

Probably the two biggest things for me however were the small group (yes, I'm still bitter after the 49(!) this summer on the Baltic add-on) and the food. As you said, not only was the food excellent but it was also great to be able to order essentially anything we wanted and have every meal but one covered. Being able to go up to the bar to put a soda, sparkling water or coffee drink on the "nat geo account" was also pretty cool.

I know I'm not the only one on these board concerned with what appears to be the whittling away of the ABD product with an eye toward increasing the profit margin, and it felt like the exact opposite with Nat Geo. It's funny ABD brands itself as an upmarket VIP type of product, but Nat Geo (which doesn't) felt much more so. I'm really hoping for a positive experience with my ABD Greece this summer, but now that I've ventured away, it's going to be hard to keep me coming back if they don't change direction.
 
Wow! This sounds like an excellent option.

I'm just curious. You mention a lot of hiking, but were there any activities? Or was hiking it? I kind of like to mix it up.

I really like the idea of a trip coordinator. That sounds like a nice way for questions, etc to be handled.

Sayhello
 
Thanks so much, Calfan for doing the awesome write up for the team. You hit everything I had on my list. It was such an AMAZING experience on every level.

Nat Geo pretty much blew me away. I will definitely be doing another adult adventure with them (Scotland!), and I'm hoping to try the family trips out as well. I've been so locked into ABD that I think I convinced myself that they were the best that was out there. In other words, I think I had a little too much pixie dust :) But this opened my eyes in a big way. On pretty much every level Nat Geo exceeded my recent experiences with ABD. The guides were fantastic, and there was *way* more of them per person, giving much more of an opportunity to get to really know them. Having that third guide/facilitator also made a huge difference. It was so nice to not have to get our luggage out (or leave it in the hall), and come back to the new hotel with our bags already in the room. I felt like there were way more "surprises" and special touches than I'm used to with ABD, and they didn't feel quite so obvious but more a part of the overall experience. I loved how so many of our snacks were regional favorites (you did leave out my favorite gingerbread!). Lately with ABD, it seems like the guides go way out of the way to make you know this is an "extra." Now, that's probably a function of these boards, but I've still noticed it.

Probably the two biggest things for me however were the small group (yes, I'm still bitter after the 49(!) this summer on the Baltic add-on) and the food. As you said, not only was the food excellent but it was also great to be able to order essentially anything we wanted and have every meal but one covered. Being able to go up to the bar to put a soda, sparkling water or coffee drink on the "nat geo account" was also pretty cool.

I know I'm not the only one on these board concerned with what appears to be the whittling away of the ABD product with an eye toward increasing the profit margin, and it felt like the exact opposite with Nat Geo. It's funny ABD brands itself as an upmarket VIP type of product, but Nat Geo (which doesn't) felt much more so. I'm really hoping for a positive experience with my ABD Greece this summer, but now that I've ventured away, it's going to be hard to keep me coming back if they don't change direction.

OMG, how could I forget the gingerbread! That was my favorite too. In fact, I'm off to see if I can order it online.
 
Wow! This sounds like an excellent option.

I'm just curious. You mention a lot of hiking, but were there any activities? Or was hiking it? I kind of like to mix it up.

I really like the idea of a trip coordinator. That sounds like a nice way for questions, etc to be handled.

Sayhello

Sayhello, the trip we did, England Coast to Coast, was specifically a hiking trip. It was geared around a specific coast to coast hiking/walking trail in Northern England that is quite famous. That being said, we did take a few breaks from hiking to check out local sites of interest such as Easby Abbey and Mount Grace Priory and Wordsworth's Dove Cottage. We also had the afternoon tea break. A number of the NatGeo Adventures trips are hiking/walking trips or multi-sport trips that incorporate kayaking, biking, etc. But the amount of sporting activity depends on the rating of the trip (Easy, Moderate, Strenuous or Extreme), and the easier trips incorporate more sightseeing and nonsporting activities. The NatGeo Family Adventures look to be more straight-up sightseeing and activities with some hikes, bike rides, horseback rides incorporated on several of the days (so more similar to ABD, but maybe a little more active, which I tend to prefer).
 
Sayhello, the trip we did, England Coast to Coast, was specifically a hiking trip. It was geared around a specific coast to coast hiking/walking trail in Northern England that is quite famous. That being said, we did take a few breaks from hiking to check out local sites of interest such as Easby Abbey and Mount Grace Priory and Wordsworth's Dove Cottage. We also had the afternoon tea break. A number of the NatGeo Adventures trips are hiking/walking trips or multi-sport trips that incorporate kayaking, biking, etc. But the amount of sporting activity depends on the rating of the trip (Easy, Moderate, Strenuous or Extreme), and the easier trips incorporate more sightseeing and nonsporting activities. The NatGeo Family Adventures look to be more straight-up sightseeing and activities with some hikes, bike rides, horseback rides incorporated on several of the days (so more similar to ABD, but maybe a little more active, which I tend to prefer).
Thanks. I'll definitely have to check them out!

Sayhello
 
Wow! This sounds like an excellent option.

I'm just curious. You mention a lot of hiking, but were there any activities? Or was hiking it? I kind of like to mix it up.

I really like the idea of a trip coordinator. That sounds like a nice way for questions, etc to be handled.

Sayhello

The trip coordinator was an awesome resource to have. As Calfan said, when we were wondering about terrain (specifically hills) she sent us pictures of the trip, etc. She was super friendly and it was nice to have one person to talk to.

Also as Calfan said, this was a pretty specific type of hiking trip and it was pretty intense--more so than I expected actually--but really fun and rewarding. Nat Geo has different kinds of trips, including ones that aren't as active. The ones branded as "Active Adventures" range as Calfan said from easy to Moderate, but I think there are some that have very little activity as well (i.e. just "regular" trips). I know one of our fellow hikers had been on six of them and this was his first active adventure. He mentioned the Italy ones as being spectacular.

OMG, how could I forget the gingerbread! That was my favorite too. In fact, I'm off to see if I can order it online.
If you find it, you better pass on that website!
 
The trip coordinator was an awesome resource to have. As Calfan said, when we were wondering about terrain (specifically hills) she sent us pictures of the trip, etc. She was super friendly and it was nice to have one person to talk to.

Also as Calfan said, this was a pretty specific type of hiking trip and it was pretty intense--more so than I expected actually--but really fun and rewarding. Nat Geo has different kinds of trips, including ones that aren't as active. The ones branded as "Active Adventures" range as Calfan said from easy to Moderate, but I think there are some that have very little activity as well (i.e. just "regular" trips). I know one of our fellow hikers had been on six of them and this was his first active adventure. He mentioned the Italy ones as being spectacular.
I love hiking/walking, but I don't think I could spend an entire trip doing that (I did it, years ago, with Backroads, and loved it, but I'm a lot older now! ;) )

Sayhello
 
I love hiking/walking, but I don't think I could spend an entire trip doing that (I did it, years ago, with Backroads, and loved it, but I'm a lot older now! ;) )

Sayhello
LOL, believe me, I understand! I love hiking/walking as well, but the next one I'm definitely going for "moderate." These old knees were feeling it :)
 
Thanks for this info. I think we are going to book Scotland Family for our next trip (summer 2017). We love ABD but just felt like something was missing for us in the Scotland itinerary. This has the train trip and it seems like you see a lot of the natural beauty. It's a long way away but I think we're in. How did you book? Travel agent? Any discounts? I would love to hear more!
 
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Thanks for this info. I think we are going to book Scotland Family for our next trip (summer 2017). We love ABD but just felt like something was missing for us in the Scotland itinerary. This has the train trip and it seems like you see a lot of the natural beauty. It's a long ways away but I think we're in. How did you book? Travel agent? Any discounts? I would love to hear more!

We booked directly with NatGeo over the phone, but I imagine you can use a travel agent and maybe get some incentives. It was very quick and easy to book directly. We booked in January for our September trip. At the time we booked, we were the third and fourth people to sign up. By April, the eight-person minimum had been met and we were told our trip was for sure a go.
 
Thank you so much for the review. I think it is great to know that there are other fabulous options out there. We have only been on 2 ABDs but I think it is easy to stick with what you know so I am happy to hear the great review. It definitely makes me more willing to compare itineraries and prices and so forth.
 
On a Lighter Note Calfan & CaliforniaGirl 109 As you seem to do a lot of travelling Do you do do any " Paid Work Jobs " ?

Or do you have great jobs that give you plenty of vacation time ?

Long may you enjoy your " Travel time "
 
Thank you so much for the review of your trip. It sounds fabulous!

I'm going to check out their destinations. I'm looking for something for myself and my adult (24 year old) son next summer.
 












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