I'm pretty angry.

[mmouse37]

Nobody is judging anyone!!! I can't see why some read more into this than there needs to be.....no one is doubting the OP's commitment to her boyfriend. She is right....their relationship probably has lasted more than many marriages but DCL is looking for married couples who are newlyweds, ones that are married 15-25 years and ones that are married over 45+ years....

It's a game show for Pete's sake....let's not let this thread turn into a huge debate over what constitutes being legally married...commonlaw or otherwise!!!

Bottom line....DCL has the right to set up the game anyway they want...they are looking for married couples...end of story.

I still do not see how this is any thing to get angry at!!!


MJ

 

[DreaminDisney]

Hi Princess! Maybe you'll get lucky, get picked and be able to play anyway!!!!!!!! Dunno....but don't let this get you down.

Anyway, Happy Planning!!!! -Debbie

 

[FredS]

Originally posted by Katdb
....I don't agree that you should just lie to get on the show, especially since there are limited spaces and you would be taking a space from a couple who is married. You lying to get on would be no different than someone trying to sneak a 17 yr old into Palo.

I assume this kind comment was directed at my earlier question about taking someone under 18 to high tea held in Palo, so I specifically want to make the record straight. I had asked about the prospect of taking my 17 year old daughter to high tea held in Palo. I was generally aware of dinner at Palo being for 18 and older, but was not sure if high tea was restricted or was even just held in Palo during the day because it was an available room. I would not expect alcohol to be served, so I did not see a problem, but thought I would ask for information and advice for those who might know if there was a problem with it.

Some people kindly responded with information and advice. A few pompous people apparently tried to turn a simple question into a major "lying" and "sneaking" situation, which I very strongly resent. Some people just get off on thinking that they are somehow more holy than others. Get over sanctimonious self and stop trying to make others look bad. Thanks!

P. S. For what it is worth, if there is a requirement that a couple be married for a certain period of time, then I would not misrepresent that to get on the show.

 

[jgalecpa]

I feel if it is important to princess then she should be able to go for it

If it's important to me to get in and out of the grocery store in a hurry, why shouldn't I park in the fire lane.

If it's important to me to get home from work in a hurry, why shouldn't I speed.

If it's important to me to keep more of my money, why not lie on my taxes.

If we all ignored those rules that we simply didn't agree with there would be nothing short of anarchy.

Jim

 

[Princess49]

GEEZ, I was just venting to people who I knew would listen, I wasn't looking to start a huge debate.

To be perfectly honest, I am sorry if no one understands why I am upset- the game is called Match your Mate, I consider Anthony my mate. It's not called Newlyweds & if it was I would understand because it is obvioulsy for people that are JUST married, then that would exclude peopole married for a long time I understand wanting to include people married for a long time as well but I feel that if you're not calling it a name that states the couples are married you shouldnt exclude couples that arent. I'm not even saying that I would have played I was just put off knowing that it wasn't an option. Personally, what kind of wedding I want is my choice & if I want to save for 5 years to include all of my family & friends & in the mean time go on a vacation I can do just that. And am I worse somehow than the couple that meets, gets married just months later & then ends up divorced?

To set the record straight, I would NOT lie-- but I shouldn't have to. I was dissapointed that a game that seemed to me to be for couples was limited to married couples only.

Fred S, I agree with you. All I did was state my opinion & all the sudden people are judging why I'm not married & saying if I could afford a cruise I could get married. I wasn't insulting ANY ONE person with my opinion so for people to become so judgemental about my opinion kind of bugs me. If you wanted to say that you agreed with the rule, I could understand that but I have to say I am a bit shocked at how many poeple were so quick to say that they didn't understand my being upset & I pretty much should just suck it up. After all I'm not asking to get the married couples discount on car insurance or the tax write off that married couples get.I wasn't even asking for the rule to be changed..... All I was doing was venting about a rule that I was unaware of & a bit dissapointed in.

 

[kristen821]

jalecpa-I feel this is a different situation then risking somebody's life parking in the fire lane ect. I don't think it is necessarily a lie she is in love and a couple that is really what matters. I don't think disney is going to care if she raises her hand to play the game or how ever you get picked.

mmouse-the judging (I think you were talking to me) is in response to a previous post saying that if you can afford the cruise you can afford to be married.

princess-have fun on your trip. I do have to say I do agree with you I think it should be for any couple especially since the prize is so small and I think it would be interesting to see if the engaged couple does better than somebody who has been married for many years. I have no interest in playing because i don't like being in the spotlight but i think since it is just a game everyone should get a chance it isn't going to hurt anyone.

 

[MrsPete]

Okay, here's what I'm hearing:

A "just right" wedding day is a big priority for you, but marriage itself is not (I'm saying that since you consider living together to be the same thing as marriage). Fine -- that's your choice. You have every right to choose what's a priority in your life.

But the people who put together the rules for the games also have the right to choose their priorities. I don't really know why they chose to say "married couples only", but I don't see that you have any recourse.

 

[inkkognito]

This is starting to get a little contentious. Let's keep it away from personal attacks and keep it on topic.
Barb
Visit the Platinum Castaway Club at: www.castawayclub.com

 

[KathyTX]

A couple of observations for Princess...

In the USA, the term "mate" generally does indicate a spouse- husband or wife. So I think Disney has given this particular event a name that implies that it is for married couples. Perhaps *you* consider your boyfriend your "mate", but most won't until you do marry.

Also, you said you're not asking to get "... the tax credit that married couples get." Perhaps you haven't heard, but there's actually usually a tax *penalty* for most married couples.

As others have indicated, this seems quite a silly thing to get so upset about.

If you want to be married, get married.

 

[two-foxes]

Originally posted by KathyTX
A couple of observations for Princess...

In the USA, the term "mate" generally does indicate a spouse- husband or wife. So I think Disney has given this particular event a name that implies that it is for married couples. Perhaps *you* consider your boyfriend your "mate", but most won't until you do marry.

See, I was thinking they called it "Match Your MATE " because it had to do with the whole ship, first mate, aye-aye sir lingo kinda thing. I figure if they called it that to keep in theme, (as Disney is soooo famous for) not just referring to or defining the American lingo for husband, wife, sig other or in my case, better half..wait, did I mean worse half?

I know there is a term for it....pun? Anyone, anyone???

 

[mmouse37]

kristin821

I don't think we have the right to judge at all.

I was trying to express that the OP should not feel anyone is judging her...because they were not. They were just expressing how they felt about the situation. It was not targeted at you.

two foxes....I also think the title of the show has something to do with Nautical terms...aaarrrrr Matey!!!!


MJ

 

[Princess49]

Again, let me say- I wasn't asking for anyone to condone my particular situation.

Kathy,

Just this year there was a bill passed to lower the taxes paid by most married couples- the point I was trying to make is that I don't ask for the "legal" benefits of being married.It's a GAME. If you think that the word "Mate" implies marraige- ok, i guess. I agree with 2foxes & I thought it had to do with the nautical language. If I wanted to be married I would be married. It is not in my plans right now. All I was saying is that I am no less a couple than two people who happen to have a piece of paper saying that they are married. I have my reasons for not being married, not that I think I should have to defend myself but since so many people enjoy passing judgement, I figured I'd let you know it's not because I just don't feel like it.


When & where I get married ASIDE. All I was saying is that I was upset that the game would only be extended to those who are married.


(I edited this because I originally wrote the reason that I am not married to set the record straight but it is personal & even though I feel people are being EXTREMELY judgmental I don't think I should have to give my reason to maintain my point- I WAS VENTING- trust me it's the last time I'll do that.)

 

[ericamanda01]

BEEP BEEP Back the truck up!
Has anyone ever played that game where a group of people sit in a circle. The first person whispers a secret in someones ear and they whisper the secret to the next person and so on. By the end of the game the secret has been twisted and is nothing like the orignal. Well It seems that this orginal topic has been twisted in the same way!

Princess49, as far as I could see, was just complaining! Period! Not asking for marriage advise, how to commit tax evasion or how to park when in a hurry! I understand your frustration about the game. And as far as I can tell you are fine with it.

IMHO:
I think for the future happiness of this board and those belonging to it we should all just listen a little more.

grouphuggrouphuggrouphug:

 

[CRSNDSNY]

Princess - In the grand scheme of things this isn't worth being 'angry' about. You'll laugh about this thread after your cruise, trust me.

For future reference, you may want to be careful how you title your threads. When you use heated words like 'angry' in a Disney Cruise Line forum, people are going to get riled up. For DCL fanatics like us, the words "Disney Cruise Line" and "angry" just don't go together and tend to start fires and unfortunately we will get nitpicky.

Go and have fun. You may not even have time to make this game -- there is so much to do onboard.

Happy sailing!

 

[KaitlinsMom]

Originally posted by kristen821
jalecpa-I feel this is a different situation then risking somebody's life parking in the fire lane ect. I don't think it is necessarily a lie she is in love and a couple that is really what matters. I don't think disney is going to care if she raises her hand to play the game or how ever you get picked.

Just an observation - But I think the point Jim was trying to make was that there has to be some set of rules put in place so things will run smoothly - There has to be a cut off at some point or things would just be chaotic and people would be obnoxious (think of "Lord of the Flies") Jim was mearly stating examples to make his point understandable -

I am sure Disney would like to call it the "Newelywed Game" - But that name is trademarked - So they had to come up with another name.

Princess - I think this post "took off" just because it is hard to understand why you would be so mad over this - I am sure you are disappointed (as would I be in your shoes) - It is just your post made it seem like you were over the top mad -

I have been on two cruises - I still have yet to check out the movie theater or games or even some of the shows - Point being, that you will be so busy with all the stuff there is to do - There is no way you can do everything DCL has to offer -

Enjoy your cruise and please continue to post -

 

[Katdb]

Princess 49,

I am sorry that you have taken this the wrong way. As you say, you just wanted to express your opinion, and we just wanted to express ours. With all the wonderful activities onboard, I'm sure you could find something you both enjoy. When I posted, I wasn't trying to "attack you", I just feel as strongly against lying as you do about the 'married rule'. I hope you have a great cruise.

Originally posted by FredS
I assume this kind comment was directed at my earlier question about taking someone under 18 to high tea held in Palo...Some people just get off on thinking that they are somehow more holy than others.

Feel free to assume all you want, even though it was innappropriate and completely wrong. I haven't seen your post and the only reason I bring this example up is that last cruise, we saw two families making a fuss trying to get their 17 yr olds into Palo (one of them actually yelling at the cms, bringing one to tears). An opinion was asked, and I gave mine without jumping to conclusions. For some reason, my honesty offended you but I can assure you that until your rather insinuating post, I had not taken notice of your name.

 

[CAMICKEY]

Someone throw some water on this thread. - Mike

 

[Princess49]

ericamanda01-- THANK YOU! I agree- all I was doing was complaining. Linke a whiny, little princess that I am! I DO think it's unfair- not unfair enough to go get married just to play!

I was angry- I didn't say I was going to go out & kill the first person I saw I just said I was angry. & I was, hence the name of the post- & in case anyone was confused about WHY I posted- I said it right there- I WAS VENTING!!!!!! Jeez what a snowball. And as I understand expressing your opinion just as I stated mine- Mine was about the rules of the game- not why & wherefore I am not married which is what this turned into- I have people telling me that if I can afford a cruise I could just as well get married & so on & the ture meaning of the word Mate- for goodness sake I was just talking- I used the angryface- not the about to spit I'm so angry face. & if seeing the word angry threw you off you should have seen by what I wrote that I wasn't trying to insult DCL. & trust me- I am not stressing over the whole game thing- but I'll tell you something it will be a long time before I laugh at this thread- I never saw the nasty side of the boards before but I did here. I really don't care about the game this much. It was me just complaining. Sorry for all of the things that have come of this thread.

 

[Grumbo]

Camickey said....

Someone throw some water on this thread.

Yeah I agree Mike. Plus my popcorns nearly all gone

Cheers,
Grumbo

 

[gottaluvdisney]

I agree with CRSNDSNY and that DCL and angry do not go together. However, please remember that it was not DCL stating what was written in the Passporter, it was the authors of the Passporter.

DCL does ask for couples that are Newlyweds, that have been together for 15-25 or so, and those that have been together for 50+. My sister and her husband were married for 10 years and they let them play. These are just what I would consider guidelines for the game and my sister and bil didn't have to provide a marriage certificate to play.

I don't think there is much reason to get all heated about - it is a fun game to have someone in or to watch. I have seen it about five times and enjoy it every time.