I'm all for free speech, BUT...

MushyMushy

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I really hate those pro-life protesters who hold the disgusting posters of dead fetuses. :sad2:

Why is something like that considered "free speech," but a picture of a woman breastfeeding a baby could be considered pornographic? :confused3

Anyway, I had to have a sad talk with my 12 year old today. :sad1: She wasn't ready for those pictures OR the controversy. Why don't those people realize that they are doing their agenda more harm than good when they go all out like that?

Rant over.
 
I am pro life and I couldnt agree with you more. I think its disgusting and hurtful to everyone.
 
You're not going to convert anyone to your point of view by grossing them out or scaring them. It's a foolish tactic.
 
Pathetic, isn't it. We have a crazy SOB that has gone from camping his big bloody picture truck in front of Planned Parenthood to driving to a different catholic church with a school each day to attend noon mass because he wants the kids to see it and be horrified by it. He said he would stop if the priests would discuss abortion in mass each day. He's insane.

One of the priests recently banned him from the premises. http://www.mercurynews.com/religion/ci_7027605
 

I think that's the whole point they're trying to get across...that dead fetuses are disgusting and they don't want woman doing that to their unborn babies.

I'm extremely pro-life, but I personally wouldn't hold up a sign like that. But I wouldn't be offended by one either.
 
I wonder how that technique is working out for them. Not very well it would seem. I'm pro-choice but you don't see me out their picketing. I could think of equally gruesome signs to hold up to make my point. I don't think children who probably don't hold a political or religious view on the issue should have to see those things. Not only that but it's disrespectful to women who have lost children prenatally.
 
There are much better ways to get your point across then using shock or horrifying people. For many reasons, I am pro-choice for everyone but pro-life for me. That is NOT the way to stop it or covert people.
 
There is like a truck or something that comes around my campus every now and then with that picture and it rides up and down the same road for the longest time, annoys us more than anything.
 
I wonder how that technique is working out for them. Not very well it would seem. I'm pro-choice but you don't see me out their picketing. I could think of equally gruesome signs to hold up to make my point. I don't think children who probably don't hold a political or religious view on the issue should have to see those things. Not only that but it's disrespectful to women who have lost children prenatally.

I was thinking that as well. One of my coworkers just lost a baby at 7 weeks. It was the second time. The first time, the baby died at nearly 9 months and she had to deliver it like a live baby. I can't imagine what seeing those photos would do to her.

I think that's the whole point they're trying to get across...that dead fetuses are disgusting and they don't want woman doing that to their unborn babies.

These groups have been doing this for years and all it has done is make more people convinced that ALL pro-lifers are zealots. They hurt their cause every time a mother has to go through what the OP did today.
 
Pathetic, isn't it. We have a crazy SOB that has gone from camping his big bloody picture truck in front of Planned Parenthood to driving to a different catholic church with a school each day to attend noon mass because he wants the kids to see it and be horrified by it. He said he would stop if the priests would discuss abortion in mass each day. He's insane.

We have a guy like that in Sacramento. He parks his hate truck next to the Capitol pretty frequently.

I don't agree with the protesters holding up signs either, especially when they are men. Since no man will ever have to make that kind of decision, I don't think they have any right to hold up such a sign.
 
I am not sure where I stand as far as pro-life goes. For example I hate to see babies die, but what if the woman was raped and can't take care of the baby :confused3 I will say that the babies should be put to sleep in a humane way. I know it's not humane to end a unborn baby's life, I just mean I don't want them to feel any pain.
 
Not a fan either and I would never participate even if if I was passionate about the cause.
 
I think that's the whole point they're trying to get across...that dead fetuses are disgusting and they don't want woman doing that to their unborn babies.

I'm extremely pro-life, but I personally wouldn't hold up a sign like that. But I wouldn't be offended by one either.

Agreed.
 
I'm extremely pro-life, but I personally wouldn't hold up a sign like that. But I wouldn't be offended by one either.

So it really wouldn't bother or offend you if this guy parked the truck in front of your church or if he lived next door to you and it was parked in front?
 
These groups have been doing this for years and all it has done is make more people convinced that ALL pro-lifers are zealots. They hurt their cause every time a mother has to go through what the OP did today.

It did hurt their cause as far as I'm concerned. I'm pro-choice politically and pro-life personally. I've been extremely open with my kids as far as having the sex talks since they were little. I never did bring up abortion because somehow it just never fit in with our talks. Not that I purposely left that out, but it just never came up properly.

Well, when it came up today, my daughter got a good lesson on the pro-choice agenda. I would have preferred to be more neutral with her and let her come to her own conclusions, but those protesters forced this discussion.
 
I'm pro-choice politically and pro-life personally.

I like that phrase. I normally just call myself a hipocrite, but I am pro-choice politically and pro-life personally - I will say that from now on. :thumbsup2
 
i am prolife, but do not agree with the disgusting pictures. more of a prayerful approach for me. just like i do not agree with disgusting pictures of war to make a point about the horror of war.
 
Those pictures are really disgusting. But honestly, that is the point! I think it's really inappropriate and gross that they display them, but they think it's far worse for women to terminate their pregnancies, and are trying to shock people into awareness. Actually, I agree with them on some points insofar as I think abortion is immoral. I could never consider it for myself and I feel grief over the loss of those babies. HOWEVER, for a variety of reasons I do not believe it should ever be made illegal again. It wouldn't work, first of all. Women would still have abortions. They would just be underground and unsafe. And of course there are other considerations besides the life of the fetus (namely, the rights of the mother, which matter a great deal to me). I wish no abortions were ever performed and that all children grew up wanted and loved and well cared for. That is never going to happen, and that's why I still support reproductive rights despite my strong personal conviction that abortion is wrong. Women are raped. Girls are getting pregnant at 11 years old. Many of these women are homeless, or mentally ill, or emotionally unstable, or in desperate financial or relationship situations. Some of those babies would be neglected, abused, or abandoned...and I'm not so naive as to think all of them would find good homes and live happily ever after if they were carried to term and adopted by other families. In my line of work, I saw that all too often the birth parents would keep the children just long enough to scar them permanently, and the adoptive parents never had much of a chance to make things completely right for their children. It was heartbreaking. I think the argument that "women should just not kill their babies" is overly simplistic and ignores the fact of the matter. People who have everything going for them are rarely driven to such an agonizing choice. The woman who uses abortion for birth control or callously discards her fetus with no hesitation or regret is largely a creation of the Pro-Life movement, IMO. Reality is a lot more depressing than that.:guilty:

And I agree that it must be HORRIFYING for parents (both mothers and fathers) who have lost their children through miscarriage or stillbirth to see those posters. My mother lost a baby at term and I would feel very uncomfortable knowing she had to see a picture like that in a public place.:sad2:

Oh, how I hope my son won't have to see one of those signs at a young age! Explaining it to him would be very hard for me.:sad1:
 
Why is something like that considered "free speech," but a picture of a woman breastfeeding a baby could be considered pornographic? :confused3

I forgot to address this.

AMEN!!!!!!!!

I get so tired of public breastfeeding being considered "gross" and "inappropriate". But that is another long, heated debate thread for another day!:rotfl:
 


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