Illegal immigrants, recycling cans, and the American Dream . . .

Deb in IA

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There have been some heated debates on the issue of illegal immigrants, both here and in the media lately.

This is a story that may give you a different perspective, or at least, something to think about:

Putting Three Kids Through College by Redeeming Cans and Bottles
Immigrant Couple Picks Through Garbage to Give Their Kids an Education
March 30, 2006 — This story begins with a happy ending, the now-prosperous lives of three children born to Mexican immigrants.
Rogelio Garcia Jr., 25, is an engineer at a major defense contractor, with a degree from MIT. He's a steady young man with a steady girlfriend.
"I am living the American dream. I love my job. I don't have to worry about making next month's rent," Rogelio told "20/20."
His sister, Adriana, 24, drives a sports car and is in management training for a big rental car chain. Their baby brother, Angel, the only one not living at home, is now at San Jose State.
They're typical American kids with big futures. But there's one big difference: how they got there.
Trading in Cans for Cash
Yolanda and Rogelio Garcia Sr. live nothing like their children, and that is exactly how they'd dreamed it.
For 21 years, the Garcias have supported their family by picking through garbage, often cutting their fingers on broken glass while searching for cans and bottles.
Late at night they make their living on the darkened streets and back alleys of Los Angeles, recycling other people's trash for cash.
They've collected more than 8 million cans and bottles to help put two children through college. Their youngest is still hitting the books, so Yolanda and Rogelio still hit the streets every night.
"In my country, I was secretary … and here I come, and go to the containers or the trash. And I say, "Oh, my God, I do this?' But I need money," Yolanda Garcia aid.
Working 365 Days a Year
More than 30 years ago Yolanda and her husband illegally crossed the border from Mexico looking for a better life.
They're citizens now and have held jobs in factories and in kitchens. They have never collected a dime of welfare or a handout when work was slow because there was always the trash.
For years, their routine would begin after midnight when they'd begin collecting cans, work they'd continue until about 3 p.m. the following day.
"And then my dad would pick up whatever my mom has been collecting and he will take it to the recycling center," said their son Rogelio.
The payout would sometimes yield as little as $40, with a good night bringing $100. But Yolanda said either way, "it's good, it's money."
The cash helps pay for school, but no luxuries. "No vacation. Nothing," said Yolanda. "And we work 365 days a year."
"It's something that … I couldn't believe my parents were doing. But I was appreciative that they were doing it. Because that meant that we got to eat and we got a roof over our head," said the couple's oldest son.
And their job came with a cultural stigma. "I know for my mom it was really difficult," said Adriana.
Yolanda said that sometimes people yell things at her. "But I don't care … because I have a dream."
Inspiring Their Children
The dream to see their children have a better life is one that perhaps their oldest son, Rogelio, did not initially appreciate .
When he was in fifth grade his solid grades earned him a spot in advanced placement classes that were more difficult, and his grades dropped.
His mom gave him a street class that forced him to picture a future without an education.
"They told me, 'you have the option — what we are doing, or something else that you love to do,'" said Rogelio.
"I just love reading about space travel, so I would say astronauts were my role models and how did they get there? Well they had their engineering degrees," he said.
So Rogelio pushed for an engineering degree and went for the best. In 2002, he earned a degree in aerospace engineering from prestigious MIT with help from scholarships.
Filmmakers James D. Scurlock and David Baum followed the family on their first trip to Boston for their son's graduation and turned their story into the documentary "Parents of the Year," which screened two years ago at the Los Angeles Film Festival. (Click here to view a clip of the documentary: www.trueworks.us/parents_of_the_year)
Now out of school, Rogelio is doing some collecting of his own.
He said he still can't throw a soda can away, and holds on to them for his family. "I don't throw them out. It's basically a sin around here. It's like throwing out money. You don't do that here," said Rogelio.
As for Cal State Riverside graduate Adriana, the image of her mother pulling on rubber gloves before dawn is in her mind as she pulls on her suit jacket each day for her management training.
"I love my job," said Adriana. "I am not washing dishes … and I am not, you know … having to wake up early in the morning to go somewhere dangerous."
The Garcias' life on the streets of Los Angeles is nearly over. The older kids now contribute financially and the youngest, Angel, is now a college sophomore. He comes home for holidays knowing that every A grade he earns brings a smile to a tired mother's face.
When he graduates, she looks forward to some rest.
"I go to my bed, and I sleep maybe one week," said Yolanda.
But until then aluminum remains the currency of the Garcia family, who moved up from nothing, one can at a time.
"They put aside what people thought of them," said son Rogelio. "They put aside the long hours … their tired bodies, because they had one goal in mind — just to get us an opportunity. And it means a lot to me."

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=1787254&page=1
 
Where are those who say we need to ship them all back. Get them out'a'here!

Kinda silent.

Oh, but I get it, they will still say the story should not glorify the illegal act.......

BTW, great article. The American Dream. To Bad it takes a story about an immigrant to show Americans what the American dream really is.
 
Why would I say "ship them back" to people who are citizens? The article did say they were citizens now, right? So, what's the point? If they were still here illegally, then I'd say they need to get themselves some legal paperwork within a reasonable time and, if not, it's time for them to go back to their home country. But, they're legal citizens, so of course I wouldn't want to kick them out.

I don't think the story glorified the act of illegal immigration - it was a very small part of the story told about some hard working people who became legal citizens and raised good kids.

I don't see how that makes it OK for millions of people to break our laws. Why not just throw away all the laws? Yeah, I was going 95 in a 65 zone, but I slowed down eventually and nobody was hurt.
 
Wonderful story.

I know many immigrants like that, they came here 10 years ago with nothing and they were working cleaning toilets and recycling cans, construction, now one of them owns his construction company and built his own house, a really nice house at the Lake, and one of their kids is in Harvard. Dreams really do come true.
 

dennis99ss said:
Where are those who say we need to ship them all back. Get them out'a'here!

Kinda silent.

Oh, but I get it, they will still say the story should not glorify the illegal act.......

Why would anyone say to ship these people back? The story says they became citizens. :confused3
 
It is a great story, BUT I know plenty of immigrants who came here LEGALLY and could tell similar ones. I think it is great that they worked so hard to get their kids where they wanted to be in life, but the fact is that the first step they took was an ILLEGAL one.

Sorry, but I have no sympathy for those who knowingly break the law.
 
So then I guess shoplifting is ok, as long as you're doing it to take care of your family, also?

These aren't really laws so much as guidelines that we should follow to the best of our abilities.
 
My brother-in-law employs Mexicans. I'm not sure if they are legal or not. The one thing I know he loves about them is they will work for half the wage of an American worker and they will work long hours. So for the employer they think it's great. The sad part is these people are so desperate for work they will do whatever they can. I personally don't see how the immigration problem will ever be fixed. I think the word illegal should stand for what it means. If you want to live,work,stay in this country(That is so hated around the world?) then you need to follow the proper channels. In the end it's all politics. Nothing will be solved. Great for conversations and debates but that's about all.
 
If we break the law by let say, speeding, we get a ticket and then we pay for it, same thing with this people, they came here illegal, OK the broke the law, but the paid lots of money in penalties.
Jesus Said, "Let him who is without sin, throw the first rock".

(I am not saying that illegal imigration is OK)
 
dennis99ss said:
Where are those who say we need to ship them all back. Get them out'a'here!

Kinda silent.

Oh, but I get it, they will still say the story should not glorify the illegal act.......

BTW, great article. The American Dream. To Bad it takes a story about an immigrant to show Americans what the American dream really is.


I agree, great article. What those parents have done for their children is truly inspiring (and I hope the three kids take good care of their parents in their old age). But there are 3 or 4 BILLION other poor people in the world who would love to give their kids a better life, too. Should we invite them ALL to take part in the American dream? And is it fair that only those who can sneak into this country get a chance at that dream, while so many others trying to do it legally wait and wait? I personally think we should spend more in foreign aid to poor countries so that people in those countries could have better lives without having to emigrate somewhere else.
 
Cute story.

Of course, there are a lot of American citizens who would like to be able to give their kids college educations, too.


I don't care how sad you are, if you want to come here, do it legally. That sounds cold, but it's really the only way.
 
*shrug* I know people born in this country with similar stories
It doesn't change the fact that if you want to be here you need to go through the proper channels.
 
What a nice story! Do they have real jobs???

I wish we got paid to recycle around here! Would you believe that the university would be PAID to recycle! Yes, PAID, thousands of dollars, but they refuse to hire a recycling manager! Meanwhile they cry budget cuts and raise the tuition...makes me sick. Not to mention it would help the environment greatly.
 
They're legal now so I don't care.

We should not openly ALLOW people to violate the law everyday and risk national security.

Then these people demand the same rights as legal citizens, all the while waving a Mexican flag. Give me a break.

How about the people in Eastern Europe and Africa who want to come here but have to do it legally, then we want to reward those who come illegally?

Bush is an absolute sell out on this issue as are a lot of Republicans, and the Democrats have never cared. Anyone who votes for these watered down packages will never receive my vote!
 

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