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[Dave006]

@Dave006 - I'm still curious why you consider this as rude and disrespectful? Maybe I'm missing something but returning within the established grace period, not matter how long it is, seems well within the park rules to me.

Let me help you out with your curious nature about established times (needs a formal definition), and my views on this subject.

If you owned a restaurant, managed it, or were a tipped server at one, and guests kept making dinner reservations for 7 PM but did not bother to arrive until 8:30 or as late as 9:59 PM and blocked your other dinner parties from being seated. Would you think it was rude or inconsiderate to other guests?

You seem to conflate the official return time window with how the system currently allowx the difference from the 15 minute buffer vs a behavior in the system that may allow up to a unofficial up to 119 minute buffer. This behavior did not work this way in the initial roll-out, and only first appeared in Dec. 2024 in a Youtube video. Note the "Expired" return times were being deleted but you could still keep your on list, and tap in a see if Mickey turned Green.

Dave

 

[Babe the Blue Ox]

Let me help you out with your curious nature about established times (needs a formal definition), and my views on this subject.

If you owned a restaurant, managed it, or were a tipped server at one, and guests kept making dinner reservations for 7 PM but did not bother to arrive until 8:30 or as late as 9:59 PM and blocked your other dinner parties from being seated. Would you think it was rude or inconsiderate to other guests?

You seem to conflate the official return time window with how the system currently allowx the difference from the 15 minute buffer vs a behavior in the system that may allow up to a unofficial up to 119 minute buffer. This behavior did not work this way in the initial roll-out, and only first appeared in Dec. 2024 in a Youtube video. Note the "Expired" return times were being deleted but you could still keep your on list, and tap in a see if Mickey turned Green.

Dave

Thank you for the explanation. I understand your restaurant example but I don't believe it is applicable in this situation. The restaurant would have held a table for me for a set period of time that could have been used for someone else. Disney doesn't send an empty boat through if I don't show up on time, they just take the next group and move along.

For example, a couple of weeks ago we had a Frozen lightning lane for 1 pm. Of course several things came up along the way and we didn't make it over there until 3:30. That made the line 8 people shorter for anyone who arrived before 3:30, while anyone that arrived after 3:30 would have been in the exact same place in the line that they would have been had we arrived earlier.

I've also noticed that expired passes are no longer being deleted. That same visit, we had an evening pass for Smuggler Run but my daughter and son-in-law planned a gender reveal event in front of the Hollywood Tower Hotel for about the same time. Once that was done, it was time for Fantasmic so we just headed to the ampitheater.

Sometime after midnight, I was checking for additional LLMP releases and noticed that the Smugglers Run passes were still listed in My Plans. We got up about 6 am and I saw that they were gone by then.

This ties to the info I got from the Pooh Bear attendant who said that if the Lightning Lanes passes were unused they were still valid even after several hours.

One thing we never tried was getting a 4th pass after one may have been expired. I've read about that on here a few times but it just doesn't seem right to me.