II question - how good are my chance to get DVC in Sept?

moopdog

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I currently have Horizons by Marriott booked for 9/13 - 20th after months on unsuccessfully trying for a DVC. I do remember though being told something about a "less than 60 days" way of booking. I can't remember the details but it seems like there would be a good chance for me to get a DVC if I waiting only a few weeks before our trip. Obviously I needed to book something before that to ensure we had a place to stay. But...

Now I'm thinking for trading for the DVC. Is that possible? What's the fee to cancel Horizons & re-book at DVC? Any advice? This is my uncle's timeshare & neither of know the ins & outs. Also, I don't believe he has a lot of trade power, although nobody will admit that at II.

TIA;)
 
Possible, but as you need a 2BR for the five of you, unlikely. You'll need to pay a second exchange fee. Unless you have another unit to search with, you'll have to call each morning to see what is available.
 
I am thinking you maybe do not have enough trade power for DVC as there have been several units for DVC appearing in II for September.
 

So... even if they're available, I can't get it?? I am a little confused. Why won't they just tell me I don't have enough.
 
not sure but I think those rules go away at 60 days.

so call them up and ask II - if they have 2 bedroom at SSR, OKW or any DVC resorts.

since they will get more money - they are generally pretty happy to upgrade you.

there are not many 2-bedrooms DVC exchanges.
 
If you can't see it, I don't think you have enough trade power. There is stuff in flexchange right now for DVC. If your uncle's resort can't see it, the resort you're using to trade doesn't have the trade power or resort quality to get DVC. Can you ever see DVC units?

Thank goodness you have enough trade power to get a 2 bedroom Marriott. :)
 
II doesn't usually reveal much about trade power...you either have enough to trade into DVC or you don't...they aren't going to give you specifics. In flexchange, 60 days out, most restrictions on trade power are lifted, so it's possible you could get a DVC exchange 60 days out and pay the new exchange fee, plus the $95 exchange fee.

As an aside, I have heard wonderful things about Horizons, so that's not a bad place to stay either. We own at OKW and several other timeshares that trade into DVC, but we still want to try Horizons someday. ;)
 
moopdog's been through this conversation before, but just as a refresher:

II uses a combination of several features to determine whether a request can be satisfied with available inventory. The two most important are often referred to as "trade power" and "resort quality". There are a few other restrictions, but these two are the big ones.

Trade power expresses the expected supply of weeks at a particular resort/in a particular area/at a particular time in II's inventory compared to the expected demand for those weeks. It is important to recognize that this doesn't necessarily track general cash rental trends---it is peculiar to II's inventory. II wants to reward owners who turn in weeks with high demand/low supply, so as to encourage those owners to deposit more time. So, the other weeks in inventory that are in very high demand are not given to the first owner who requests them---rather the first owner willing to give up a similarly popular week. In trade power, more is always better---you can always "trade down", but can't always "trade up".

The other major component of the equal exchange concept is resort quality. This is primarily determined by comment cards turned in by exchange guests, but there are other factors. Again, II wants to reward guests who turn in luxurious units, so guests with lower-quality resorts are not able to exchange into the plushest weeks available, even if they ask first. However, II also doesn't want to deal with a lot of unhappy members, so owners who deposit very high-quality weeks are not allowed to exchange into lower-quality resorts, because those resorts are likely to leave the owner feeling short-changed and wanting to complain. So, resort quality can restrict trades in both directions---you can't get into a resort that is much much nicer than the one you own, but you also can't get into a resort that is much much worse.

DVC resorts get very very high exchange evaluations. So, most unsuccessful exchange requests into DVC seem to be limited by the upward quality filter, not the trade power filter----especially in low-demand times for Florida generally, as September certainly is. DVC weeks have been available for exchange almost continuously in late August and September for the past several months.

During Flexchange, which is 59 days or less before the check-in date, all trade power restrictions are waived, as are some quality restrictions. As I understand it, the upward quality restriction is significantly relaxed, but the downward quality restriction still applies in most cases. So, many people who can't get a DVC match in advance often find them available during Flexchange.

Edited to add: others have said the same thing more simply than I could have. I also agree with utahkennedys: Horizons is none too shabby a place.
 
So... even if they're available, I can't get it?? I am a little confused. Why won't they just tell me I don't have enough.
As noted, they won't tell you. In my view it's dishonest but they simply stay out of that conversation. Plus they really don't know as many of the components of the trade power equation fluctuate due to resort rankings and the number of units deposited and time until the week in question. So what you may not be able to get today, you may next month. Also you cannot trade another Orlando unit for DVC at WDW.

As Brian noted many, but not all, of these limitations are gone at 60 days or less. Keep looking online if you have anything to look with and if you see what you want call II and ask them to do a "re-trade" to that unit. You'll pay a new exchange fee of $139 or so even if the original fee was different such as the Marriott to Marriott internal fee ofo $99. And you'll pay the $95 resort services fee extra to DVC. The extra $240 dollars is worth it for this situation IMO.

What were you trading (resort, week and unit size).
 



















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