II Hawaii search started - Thanks Dean!

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For those of you who have never initiated a search using Interval International, I just did this today. I am starting this search 1 yr. 11 mos ahead of vacation time. I am requesting anytime in May '09 for 1 week at the following resorts: Westin Maui, Marriots Maui, Kona Coast I and II. These are two different islands, Maui and The Big Island. And after speaking with the Disney Guide for II, he said these were excellent choices (Thanks Dean!!) This far out there were no instant matches, so I started a search for $75.00. If no match occurrs before 3 mos. of desired reservation, I can cancel and get my $75 back. No points are ever taken from my account. Only when I accept a match, then they are taken. They will call me when a match happens, and I can say yes or no. However, starting July 1, 2007, you have to accept any match they find. For those sitting on the fence, I would start looking now to avoid the changes July 1. I also want to include September, but because it is more than 2 yrs. out, I have to call back in Sept. and they will add the search for that month as well. Hope this explanation helps those not familiar with II. :wizard:
 
Thanks for the great information. Someday I plan on trying for Hawaii too, if only I could figure out when, maybe 2010 or 2011.
 
Good luck! Maui in May sounds fabulous. And Dean is certainly the jedi-master of II exchanges.
 

For those of you who have never initiated a search using Interval International, I just did this today. I am starting this search 1 yr. 11 mos ahead of vacation time. I am requesting anytime in May '09 for 1 week at the following resorts: Westin Maui, Marriots Maui, Kona Coast I and II. These are two different islands, Maui and The Big Island. And after speaking with the Disney Guide for II, he said these were excellent choices (Thanks Dean!!) This far out there were no instant matches, so I started a search for $75.00. If no match occurrs before 3 mos. of desired reservation, I can cancel and get my $75 back. No points are ever taken from my account. Only when I accept a match, then they are taken. They will call me when a match happens, and I can say yes or no. However, starting July 1, 2007, you have to accept any match they find. For those sitting on the fence, I would start looking now to avoid the changes July 1. I also want to include September, but because it is more than 2 yrs. out, I have to call back in Sept. and they will add the search for that month as well. Hope this explanation helps those not familiar with II. :wizard:
You're very welcome. One thing to point out is that you have two tiers of resorts. With that match you will get KCR essentially guaranteed. If that's acceptable to you then you are all set, if not you may want to reconsider. IF you placed KCR on your list simply because you needed 3, let me know and I'll give you suggestions how to work around this if you want. Good luck and please let the group know back how things go. The one thing that's lacking is direct end point experience. Good luck.
 
I did put down Kona Coast Resort in hopes of getting something because I know Muai will be hard to get. So any other suggestions, I am open too. What is the end point experience? Like how the vacation turns out? Thanks!:goodvibes
 
I did put down Kona Coast Resort in hopes of getting something because I know Muai will be hard to get. So any other suggestions, I am open too. What is the end point experience? Like how the vacation turns out? Thanks!:goodvibes
I think it would be helpful for the group to find out what you match and when as well as how things go with the trip itself from a checkin and unit assignment standpoint.

I don't want to tell you what to do, that's is not my place or intention. However, I personally would not approach it quite the way you are. While I think KCR is a fine resort and many people enjoy the Big Island, I'm not sure I'd list it at this time for the trip you seem to have in mind but it depends on your past HI experience and personal desires. I'd put Oahu and Maui as the two top choices for most. I think for the novice that Kauai might be a better choice for DVC exchanges than the Big Island due to the resort choices there but it is personal preference.

If you truly want Maui, I'd list the Westin and Marriott and likely the Sunterra resort, and maybe even the Maui schooner. If you want to increase your chances you have several options through the DVC II exchange system. First is to list as many resorts and weeks as you feel comfortable. You could pick the top resorts which I believe are the Marriott's, Westin and Sunterra options. I guess the largest problem I have with listing KCR now is that you are essentially selecting this resort as you will almost certainly match it and I feel it is a secondary choice for you. Here's the reason I feel that way. That resort deposits up to 2 years out, the others tend to be around a year or less and it is a lower demand resort comparatively with a lot more availability. So if you want it later you can still likely get it. If your goal is simply to get something, it will fit the bill. What you may want to consider depending on how this information suits you, is to remove it from your list now but consider adding it back at some points maybe 6-9 month prior to your trip if you have not been successful. One thing to consider that may eliminate the newer Marriott on Kauai is that it does not have anything other than a 2 BR so it would be more points if you only need a 1 BR.

Also keep in mind the start date. For example, the Club Intrawest property on Kauai only has sunday starts for II exchanges. On our last trip I eliminated it for that reason alone.
 
I just called MS and changed my resort requests to be all for Maui. I added the Sunterra resort as suggested, and took off my requests for the Big Island at this time. Its good to know that I could probably get something that late (6 mos. out for Kona Coast) if nothing for Maui would come available. But now that it is so early, I am hoping I have a good chance for Maui!! Thanks again for all your help Dean!! Will tell all about the room, trip, etc.! :wizard:
 
I just called MS and changed my resort requests to be all for Maui. I added the Sunterra resort as suggested, and took off my requests for the Big Island at this time. Its good to know that I could probably get something that late (6 mos. out for Kona Coast) if nothing for Maui would come available. But now that it is so early, I am hoping I have a good chance for Maui!! Thanks again for all your help Dean!! Will tell all about the room, trip, etc.! :wizard:
I think that's a wise move at this time. Don't forget there are other ways to get a week other than trading DVC through II if you feel so inclined. Good luck.
 
Anyone have any suggestions for a third resort for Kauai if I use the two Marriot Resorts for a search?
 
Anyone have any suggestions for a third resort for Kauai if I use the two Marriot Resorts for a search?
The Point, formerly Embassy. I'd stop there when trading DVC. Hanalei bay is hit or miss. I would not list Lawaii Beach, at least for a DVC trade. That's not to say there aren't other places worth staying, there are, just not at the cost of the DVC points involved. Remember there are ways to just list the two effectively if you want.
 
Remember there are ways to just list the two effectively if you want.

How do you list just two resorts? We're pretty flexible with dates so I thought we could list May, Oct and the first half of Nov.
 
How do you list just two resorts? We're pretty flexible with dates so I thought we could list May, Oct and the first have of Nov.
First, the II rules is 3 choices. That could be 3 resorts for one week or 3 weeks at one resort, so your really should be set. But lets assume you truly needed to just list 2 choices total. Sometimes II will allow that, other times they will not, it really depends on what the computer will accept or not. One way around this is to list choices that you know will not be filled due either to timing or demand or if they were, you'd gladly change your plans. There is no requirement those 3 choices be related in any way. So if you wanted Kauai in 14 months, you could also list say Maui for the same time or a much later time. Many of use use DVC for Xmas and easter at the higher demand resorts for regular II exchanges.
 
My daughter convinced me to put in a search for Kauai for first 2 weeks of May, all of Sept and Oct, and the first 2 weeks of Nov 2008. I'll post back if a match comes through. I said we'd accept a 1 or 2 bedroom and Fri, Sat or Sun check in date at the Marriot Resorts. Wish us luck.

Sending pixie dust for you too BWV Dreamin.:wizard:
 
You're very welcome. One thing to point out is that you have two tiers of resorts. With that match you will get KCR essentially guaranteed. If that's acceptable to you then you are all set, if not you may want to reconsider. IF you placed KCR on your list simply because you needed 3, let me know and I'll give you suggestions how to work around this if you want. Good luck and please let the group know back how things go. The one thing that's lacking is direct end point experience. Good luck.

I'm glad this thread popped up because I can add direct end point experience here rather than in a new thread.

The background for my experience is that DW, DD, and I were going to Hawaii anyway this summer as a 20th anniversary trip, regardless of our exchange success. A couple of years ago, I initiated a Hawaii search using exactly the strategy that Dean has outlined in this thread and others. The time frame for my search was anytime from June 1 through the 3rd week of August. The resorts that I listed were the Westin, Marriott, and Sunterra on Maui and, on Kauai, the older Marriott and Sunterra. Our intention was to visit the Big Island for a week because this is our (DW and I) favorite Hawaiian Island and then visit Maui or Kauai for a week. I intiated the search as soon as I was within the 2-year window for our dates. A match for the 1st week of June for the Sunterra Ka'anapli Beach Club was made about 7 and 1/2 months prior to our just concluded trip. Specifically, we traveled to the Big Island for 5/25 - 6/1 and Maui for 6/1 - 6/8.

1st with respect to the Big Island: We stayed at the Hilton Waikoloa Village for a week. I have also stayed at the Marriott Waikoloa Beach Resort previously and consider the Hilton to be a much nicer property. The advantage of the Marriott is that it is right on A-Bay (i.e., a beach) whereas the Hilton has no real beach. Rather, the Hilton has 2 large pools and a man-made ocean fed lagoon with a man-made beach. The ocean fish come and go as they please in the lagoon so this is Hilton's beach substitute. The Hilton also has a Dolphin lagoon where you can swim with the dolphins for a small ( :) ) fee. We really liked the Hilton and would readily stay there again. I know that many like the Kona Coast I and II resorts, but we would probably not stay at those on future trips unless our focus was golf or other non-beach activities because you'll need to drive to the beach. Moreover, the closest beaches are not the best beaches on the Big Island IMO. IMO, A-Bay as well as Hapuna Beach are two of the nicest beaches on this Island and they are much easier to get to from the Kohala Resorts. YMMV. BTW, the Hilton staff were courteous, efficient, professional, and extremely accommodating when we had to deal with a minor travel glitch.

With respect to the Sunterra on Maui...First, be aware that despite the name, the Sunterra is located north of Ka'anapali Beach. It would be more accurate to describe it as being on North Beach between Kahekili Beach Park and Honokowai Beach Park. We thought it was a nice beach, but if you stay anywhere in this area do not venture into the water without reef shoes because the lava rocks / reefs may do a number on any unprotected feet. Seaweed can also be a problem at some of the beaches in this area but we had no issues with seaweed during our visit. The location of the property is, in general, a good one in the sense that the Ka'anapali Beach Resort area with Whaler's Village shopping, and Lahaina town (shopping and dining) are a quick drive away.

Check-in was quick, efficient, and glitch free. As I expected, we received a mountain view rather than a beach view. The 1-BDR suites are generally well appointed, but be aware that this property does not have full kitchen facilities in that there is no range or oven. The units also do not have washers and dryers. One washer and two dryers are located on every other floor of the property. We didn't have any problems using the washers and dryers on our floor which was a necessity because we didn't bother to do laundry during our week on the Big Island.

Before and after the fact, I consider the Sunterra a fair trade for 160 DVC points. However, she who must be obeyed disagreed ex post. Her last comment at check-out was that this property had the most disgustingly filty carpet she has ever seen in a hotel room (and she has been to most places that I've only read about!) Other factors that some may find relevant: 1) some common areas are in need of painting or cleaning or general TLC; and 2) more significantly in my mind, the pool's plaster has eroded away in a number of places, exposing the underlying gunnite. To me, the latter is indicative of either inattentiveness or unwillingness to do necessary maintenance. I was and still am satisfied with this trade and am glad we stayed there on this trip. The same is true for DW. However, when I asked her whether she would be willing to exchange 160 DVC points for another stay at this Sunterra, her answer was "probably not." I think I probably agree with her too (i.e., glad I did it but probably won't do it again for this particular property). Since Sunterra acquired the Hawaii Embassy properties less than a year ago, I think it remains to be see how committed they will be to the maintenance of these properties.

Bottom line summary: I think the Maui Sunterra is currently a fair value trade, but DW did not think so.

If anyone has questions about this particular property, I'll do my best to answer them.
 
Wow, thanks for that trip report! Well, I have never been to Hawaii, so even if I get the Sunterra, I will have nothing to compare it too! ( Blessed are those that believe and have not seen!) So with that, I will be grateful for any of the 3 choices for Maui. I'm glad to here you thought the Sunterra was worth 160 pts. I'm not sure for May or Sept. if it will cost me that many points. MS couldn't say what season those months were. Thanks again for your comments!!:thumbsup2
 
Wow, thanks for that trip report! Well, I have never been to Hawaii, so even if I get the Sunterra, I will have nothing to compare it too! ( Blessed are those that believe and have not seen!) So with that, I will be grateful for any of the 3 choices for Maui. I'm glad to here you thought the Sunterra was worth 160 pts. I'm not sure for May or Sept. if it will cost me that many points. MS couldn't say what season those months were. Thanks again for your comments!!:thumbsup2

I may be way off-base here, but if it were me, I'd assume for planning purposes that any month in Hawaii will be considered high season.
 
Wow, thanks for that trip report! Well, I have never been to Hawaii, so even if I get the Sunterra, I will have nothing to compare it too! ( Blessed are those that believe and have not seen!) So with that, I will be grateful for any of the 3 choices for Maui. I'm glad to here you thought the Sunterra was worth 160 pts. I'm not sure for May or Sept. if it will cost me that many points. MS couldn't say what season those months were. Thanks again for your comments!!:thumbsup2
We stayed there in 2002, had 2 units. I'd agree it's a half a notch below but well worth considering.

I may be way off-base here, but if it were me, I'd assume for planning purposes that any month in Hawaii will be considered high season.
Actually that's not true from DVC's standpoint. Depending on the Island in question a fair amount of time is mid season and some weeks are low season.
 



















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