If you home school how do you teach evolution?

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My DD is in a small private school using the A Beka curriculum. She is 10 and in the 4th grade. It occurred to me she isn't getting evolution. I want her to have it. I am not sure how to teach it to her. Anyone else encounter this?

Thanks!

Lisa
 
Hmmm. At that age, I remember studying the ages of the earth and the animals that lived at that period. We moved pretty quickly through the earlier stages until we got to dinosaurs, spent some time there, then moved on and then spent what seemed like FOREVER on all of the ancestors of man. I distinctly remember having to make a model of the head of **** Habilis and writing a paper on the Neanderthal. (The funniest thing, to me, was that my father let me crib some of his notes - with his help for ideas that had changed due to discoveries in the intervening years - from a class he'd taken on the earlier forms of the **** species in pursuit of his master's of Theology!)

If you do that, you kind of have to teach the basics of evolution - why all the different periods had different animals.

I remember too that the idea of it all sort of gelled for me when I looked at a book about dogs and read about their common ancestor and how selective breeding had changed them in so many varied ways. I figured that what man had done to dogs in the micro, time did for all living things in the macro.
 
Natural history museums teach it.

And pretty much any secular book about dinosaurs out there.

I honestly do not specifically remember it being taught in school...except maybe in upper middle when we science was Earth Science.

Right now, we teach 5th and thus far, the science content has not led to that discussion, b/c it is in other areas of science. (we are doing astronomy, biology, chemistry, and physics--no dinosaurs in this years content.:confused3)

However, my children have been to natural history museums and there is no shortage of it there. If you don't have one near you, you can visit them online and some content is available. http://www.mnh.si.edu/explore.html

As with any subject, you don't necessarily need a textbook to teach it. HTH.
 
For a forth grader, the most important point for her to understand in that species can change over time, and survival of the fittest. Discuss the similarities of all living things (carbon based, DNA, etc.) The mechanics of evolution are much better understood later, when the student understands the concepts of genetcis and the importance of DNA. Evolution is not as scary as the religious right would want you to believe...they just don't understand it!

(yes, I am a science teacher)
 

First I want to say that 'you' or I have to do what's best for our family even if that differs from one another or what the 'norm' is at the time.

We use a faith based curriculum (Jeanne Fulbright's Creation Series)
When we study or go on a field trip I have explained to my daughter what most science books may 'suggest' regarding evolution & that 'we' believe in our home & school that it us contrary to what the bible teaches & that believe on Creation based science.

One either has a 'Creationist perspective' or an 'Evolutionist perspective'

But I must say when you chose the school your child attends you must have known that with Abeka it IS a faith based curriculum & that there would be No evolution taught.

Depending on the age/maturity of the child they may find it confusing or question their faith if ghat is one of the reasons you chose that particular school for he or she to attend.

You may want to consult the instructor.
 
For a forth grader, the most important point for her to understand in that species can change over time, and survival of the fittest. Discuss the similarities of all living things (carbon based, DNA, etc.) The mechanics of evolution are much better understood later, when the student understands the concepts of genetcis and the importance of DNA. Evolution is not as scary as the religious right would want you to believe...they just don't understand it!

(yes, I am a science teacher)

YES! I completely agree. I honestly feel like most people who have a problem with it are people who don't actually know what it is.
 
First I want to say that 'you' or I have to do what's best for our family even if that differs from one another or what the 'norm' is at the time.

We use a faith based curriculum (Jeanne Fulbright's Creation Series)
When we study or go on a field trip I have explained to my daughter what most science books may 'suggest' regarding evolution & that 'we' believe in our home & school that it us contrary to what the bible teaches & that believe on Creation based science.

One either has a 'Creationist perspective' or an 'Evolutionist perspective'

But I must say when you chose the school your child attends you must have known that with Abeka it IS a faith based curriculum & that there would be No evolution taught.

Depending on the age/maturity of the child they may find it confusing or question their faith if ghat is one of the reasons you chose that particular school for he or she to attend.

You may want to consult the instructor.

Some people believe in both creationist and evolutionist theories. My boyfriend is an ex-born again Christian and he still believes that a higher force originally created creatures, but he also believes that they have changed over time. In fact I would hazzard to guess that there are quite a few people out there who believe that way. I feel that it is healthy to question what you believe in and find the answers on your own.
 
Some people believe in both creationist and evolutionist theories. My boyfried is an ex-born again Christian and he still believes that a higher force originally created creatures, but he also believes that the have changed over time. In fact I would hazzard to guess that there are quite a few people out there who believe that way. I feel that it is healthy to question what you believe in and find the answers on your own.

I agree. I think a lot of people who are religious and believe in a higher force do believe that the higher force is responsible for the initial creation but anything after that happened because of evolution. That is what most of my friends know and we span multiple different religions. I personally don't believe that the first creatures on this planet just magically appeared, but I also don't believe that a higher force had anything to do with what happened after that.

OP, I think at 10, she is probably more then able to grasp the concept of evolution even if she is learning something different in school.
 
I agree. I think a lot of people who are religious and believe in a higher force do believe that the higher force is responsible for the initial creation but anything after that happened because of evolution. That is what most of my friends know and we span multiple different religions. I personally don't believe that the first creatures on this planet just magically appeared, but I also don't believe that a higher force had anything to do with what happened after that.

OP, I think at 10, she is probably more then able to grasp the concept of evolution even if she is learning something different in school.


Yep, my son is in a Catholic school and they do not support Creationism because science does not back that up. They believe in God (that really goes with saying;)) as the "creator" of all but also teach the science that is out there in our world regarding evolution. As Lisa Loves Pooh posted earlier, if you have access to museums, you can show that there but I'm sure that there is specific course material/curricula you can find that work with religious beliefs since the Catholic schools are teaching that routinely.
 
Take your daughter to visit your library, or a museum - or, ideally, both!

Any librarian can direct you to some excellent, age-appropriate, books on evolution. You can read them to your daughter at bedtime and discuss the ideas with her.

And practically all Natural History museums cover evolution as part of their dinosaur exhibits. There's often even a film. Just ask at the visitor information desk and they'll tell you where to look.
 
Depending on the age/maturity of the child they may find it confusing or question their faith if ghat is one of the reasons you chose that particular school for he or she to attend.

You may want to consult the instructor.

We used a faith-based curriculum, too. I added tons of "hard" science to the curriculum, because it's a subject I love. My kids had no trouble reconciling science and religion when they were much younger than 10.

Teaching evolution did not cause them to question their faith. (Now, Man's inhumanity to Man... THAT's another issue.)
 
Many home schoolers do not teach evolution, unfortunately. That leads their children to having a distinct disadvantage when it comes to science facts.
 
Netflix has a number of excellent videos available on complicated topics like this one. I've been using them a long time & gave the PBS DVD 4 stars back when I introduced it to my kids who must have been around that age.

FYI, I think many schools tip-toe around this topic because it's so controversial.
 
There really were dinosaurs in the Garden of Eden, exactly as the Creation Museum in Petersburg, Kentucky, would have us believe. Tyrannosaurus rex coexisted with lions. Diplodocus grazed alongside sheep. Duckbills delved in the swamps (for Eden had its moister parts to accommodate such creatures) alongside actual ducks. All creatures great and small had come into being in the space of less than a week by acts of special creation, and they dwelt together happily in the Peaceful Kingdom, doing no violence to one another, although this caused some malnutrition among the T. Rexes and Allosaurs because their long, dagger-like teeth were really not suitable for chewing grass.

But there was harmony in the Garden, more or less, largely because the T. Rex had a brain the size of a walnut and lacked the imagination to desire anything more.

The problem was Man, or more precisely, Man and Woman, for male and female were they created, and they tended to get on each other’s nerves. The Man talked too much. He berated the T. Rex for having a brain the size of a walnut and for lack of imagination. The Woman, overhearing all this, took it as a veiled criticism of herself.

It was the Woman who first ate of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, which had been expressly forbidden by the Creator. (Later attempts to blame this on temptation by the Serpent have proven hard to verify, due to a lack of reliable witnesses.)

“So,” she said to the Man, “if you’re so smart why don’t you have a bite too?”

“I think I will!” he replied, and he took from her the apple, and he did eat.

The Tyrannosaurus stood by, gaping stupidly.

“What are you staring at?” said the Man. “You’ve got a brain the size of a walnut. Here, try this. Maybe it’ll make your brain grow a little.”

He tossed the remains of the forbidden fruit into the T. Rex’s gaping maw, and T. Rex swallowed reflexively.

All sorts of new knowledge flooded the minds of the Man and the Woman. They knew good and evil. They saw their nakedness and sought fig leaves. They understood that E equals MC squared.

The T. Rex however, having begun with a brain the size of a walnut, understood considerably less, but it did figure out what its long, sharp teeth were actually suited for, and it ate, and kept on eating, devouring first the Man and the Woman, then several other dinosaurs, and all the mammals save those so small they went skittering around its ankles; and when the Creator walked in the Garden and saw the results of the carnage (of which the T. Rex was entirely unashamed, being too stupid to work out the finer philosophical implications), the only possible solution was to drive all the dinosaurs out of Eden and set an angel with a flaming sword to stand watch to make sure none of them got back in. (Dinosaurs may not be very bright, but they are impressed by flaming swords.)

The creator watched them go, knowing that they would rule the Earth for millions of year, rending the flesh of their fellows until the eventual extinction of all. Then he looked down upon the sorry remnants of the order Mammalia skittering around his ankles and said, “I think I’ll try evolution next time.”

By Darrell Schweitzer
. Published in the May 2008 Analog Science Fiction and Fact and copyright by the publisher.
 
Evolution is not as scary as the religious right would want you to believe...they just don't understand it!

YES! I completely agree. I honestly feel like most people who have a problem with it are people who don't actually know what it is.

Maybe it's not our understanding of it so much as it is the way it's taught. Jussayin'.
 
If people refuse to study it then you cannot blame the way it is taught, can you?
Just saying.

ford family

If you're expecting it to be taught to your kids the same way it was taught to you, it's perfectly understandable to me why some parents wouldn't choose that route.
 
To the OP... is your child in this school because it's faith-based and you want her to have that type of education but want her to understand the concept of evolution as well?

Or is she there because of other reasons?

Because I think the way you approach it is going to depend on the answer to that. Personally, I feel that science explains a lot which makes perfect sense because I think God essentially "gave" us science.

If your reasoning is the first option I presented, maybe try a Christian bookstore? Or a pastor?
 
Although DS is still in preschool (we hs), we are planning on teaching evolution once he enters high school along with creation. We do homeschool for religious reasons and lack of a good public school system here, but we want him to at least know what it is for college purposes. We also believe it's hard to say something is wrong when you have no clue what it really is. I don't want DS to have a professor straight up ask him why he believes in a certain theory and his answer be, because mom and dad said so. We will present him both and let him say what he feels on the subject. This is what we feel works best for our family.
 
The language is probably a bit advanced for a 4th grader, but if you're looking for something that you can read with them (and help them along) I personally feel there is no better book for explaining the mechanics of evolution than The Ancestor's Tale. It can be read slowly, chapter by chapter, taking short lessons from each.
 


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