If VB is home property, any trouble booking at Disney World?

[_auroraborealis_]

Do you know if Saratoga is moving forward with the Murphy bed in the wall idea?

I don't. That's why I'm saying they could surprise. On the other hand, one of the murphy treatments I saw would still leave studios at 4 occupancy - it's the double in the wall.

If they could take studios to 5 it would probably increase demand/desirability of Saratoga, which is why I;m not counting out the possibility.

 

[Ben E N]

Hi Bill,
Can you clarify something for me. What do you mean expect to spend more on Disney Vacations after you buy DVC? If my wife is going to agree to this, I need to assure her that it is cheaper in the long run (if we go to Disney every year) to purchase a resale with DVC. I am sure this is a complex question, but what we have been doing is booking vacations at moderate resorts and we love the comfort of the beds. We appreciate the upscale feel of the moderate. Someday we might enjoy deluxe accomodations, but for now moderate works for us. Do you think DVC will safe us?

I can speak from a similar experience. Former yearly moderate guy myself. Bought DVC. Got special cheap annual pass. Now I am throwing in a 4 day trip, with extra dining, this summer before a cruise because hey, why not? I have the points anyway. Now I'm also looking at going in January just for fun, then tacking on a few days after a wedding this spring. Those three trips would have never happened if I had not bought into DVC. They all sound like great times, but will end up causing me to spend more money on Disney.

 

[tjkraz]

I am wondering if I purchased property from Vero Beach with the intent to book mainly properties at Disney World, would I have trouble booking at OKW? or anywhere else for that matter during mid month of March for a week?

Realistically, how long do you foresee March being your target vacation period? Buying DVC points is a relatively long-term prospect which should entail some advance planning. Will you still be taking March trips in 3 years? 5 years?

Not knowing much with this reply, I am concerned about the pullout couch for my 17 and 13 year old. Would OKW be better because they offer two queens?

What's the plan when they are 20 and 16?

How about 23 and 19?

If you don't have SOME idea of what the next few years hold, buying DVC points may not be the wisest choice at this juncture. I say that as parent of a 17 year old and 15 year old myself. We've been members since the kids were toddlers, so we had relative certainty about our ability to travel for the first 10+ years of ownership. At this stage, I've never been less certain about when our next family trip will occur.

 

[disneynutz]

Hi Bill,
Can you clarify something for me. What do you mean expect to spend more on Disney Vacations after you buy DVC? If my wife is going to agree to this, I need to assure her that it is cheaper in the long run (if we go to Disney every year) to purchase a resale with DVC. I am sure this is a complex question, but what we have been doing is booking vacations at moderate resorts and we love the comfort of the beds. We appreciate the upscale feel of the moderate. Someday we might enjoy deluxe accomodations, but for now moderate works for us. Do you think DVC will safe us?

Disney is a luxury vacation to start off with. Disney is very, very good at getting you to spend money that you probably don't intend to spend. They use terms like magical, memories, family, to suck us in. While DVC may save you money on your room at a deluxe resort, I wouldn't call all of the DVC rooms deluxe, they are timeshare rooms that get extra use and they often show wear. Because you think that you are saving money, you can mentally justify going more often and/or staying longer. You might switch from a studio to a one bedroom once in a while which uses more points or stay at a resort that uses more points as most of the newer DVC units do. In addition to the DVC purchase cost, the dues, now you are spending more for food, travel, extras, dole whips, hard ticket events, DVC events, and pretty soon you end up buying another contract to feed your Disney addiction. Buying DVC commits you to Disney vacations for years and Disney knows that DVC is good for their business and that it increases guest spending which is why they are converting resorts to DVC and building new DVC resorts all of the time.

While DVC may save some people money, for most of us it causes us to spend more.

Bill

 

[castle1]

I wouldn't buy with the thought that you will mostly be going in March. Travel plans do change over time.

 

[Michael Vincent]

Disney is a luxury vacation to start off with. Disney is very, very good at getting you to spend money that you probably don't intend to spend. They use terms like magical, memories, family, to suck us in. While DVC may save you money on your room at a deluxe resort, I wouldn't call all of the DVC rooms deluxe, they are timeshare rooms that get extra use and they often show wear. Because you think that you are saving money, you can mentally justify going more often and/or staying longer. You might switch from a studio to a one bedroom once in a while which uses more points or stay at a resort that uses more points as most of the newer DVC units do. In addition to the DVC purchase cost, the dues, now you are spending more for food, travel, extras, dole whips, hard ticket events, DVC events, and pretty soon you end up buying another contract to feed your Disney addiction. Buying DVC commits you to Disney vacations for years and Disney knows that DVC is good for their business and that it increases guest spending which is why they are converting resorts to DVC and building new DVC resorts all of the time.

While DVC may save some people money, for most of us it causes us to spend more.

Bill

Bill,

This is an awesome response! I do love Disney and I am addicted. My wife is too. We both teach so we will definitely have a limit on what we can spend. Thanks for taking the time to write this.

 

[Bruin_mouse]

More predictable contract - all contracts expire in 2057.

Not to be a pain, and with full acknowledgement that this won't matter for 36 years, but SSR's right to use expires in 2054:

https://www.disboards.com/threads/the-dvc-resource-center-updated-january-2018.3655476/

 

[_auroraborealis_]

Not to be a pain, and with full acknowledgement that this won't matter for 36 years, but SSR's right to use expires in 2054:

https://www.disboards.com/threads/the-dvc-resource-center-updated-january-2018.3655476/

dang it, I know that, too.
I'm sticking to the stability of it versus the OKW cluster, though!

 

[Michael Vincent]

In 24 years I will be retired and ready for a new adventure. Maybe work at Disney. Do you see any other issues with OKW besides the uncertainty in 2042?

 

[Michael Vincent]

In 24 years I will be retired and ready for a new

Realistically, how long do you foresee March being your target vacation period? Buying DVC points is a relatively long-term prospect which should entail some advance planning. Will you still be taking March trips in 3 years? 5 years?



What's the plan when they are 20 and 16?

How about 23 and 19?

If you don't have SOME idea of what the next few years hold, buying DVC points may not be the wisest choice at this juncture. I say that as parent of a 17 year old and 15 year old myself. We've been members since the kids were toddlers, so we had relative certainty about our ability to travel for the first 10+ years of ownership. At this stage, I've never been less certain about when our next family trip will occur.

My wife and I love Disney. I think we will plan on still going even when our children are in college. We might buy more points when our children have children. That puts us with our grandchildren and their teens if we have vacation ownership until 2042.

 

[Deb & Bill]

In 24 years I will be retired and ready for a new

My wife and I love Disney. I think we will plan on still going even when our children are in college. We might buy more points when our children have children. That puts us with our grandchildren and their teens if we have vacation ownership until 2042.

You better have a really good pension and 401K to buy those points in 24 years.

 

[Dean]

To echo, VB is far more expensive long term. SSR is the cheapest option over time with BLT second. I would never buy VB for WDW but it might make sense for someone wanting to book both. Not having an 11 month priority is a big compromise for no savings IMO. As for SSR vs OKW, OKW will likely consistently be available and the will be quite a bit of risk and uncertainty with the transition in 2042. Unless one needs the close to HH booking category or a 3 BR consistently, it really doesn't make sense to buy there otherwise just to get into the system. The 2054 vs 2057 vs 2060 is really a non issue IMO, the difference in value compared to risk is negligible all else being equal. If one is locked in to Easter (Premier for DVC), the savings is very limited compared to there times. This is less so for those with children than for those in the profession since they will likely be committed for a much longer time frame.