IF...50 GCV units are built, how fast do you think they'll sell out?

[SuzanneSLO]

I see alot of West Coast people who go once a year to DLR buying a weeks worth of points a year.

My parents have been going to DL since 1956 (I think they would have been there opening day except my Dad was stationed in the Far East then) and I have been going since the early '60s. I know lots of people who live in CA who could not imagine going to DL for a week. For so many years, a weekend was plenty of time for a great visit. Most people I know still consider it to be a 2 day -- maybe 3 day at most -- visit.

We live about 4 hours from DL, have APs for DL (& WDW) and own at BWV. I don't see us buying into GCV becuase we rarely plan our trips to DL more than 7 months in advance. We typically visit DL as part of a business trip or on the way to somewhere else (such as WDW). Talk about last minute planning, we are still trying to decide whether to drive down 2 days from now!

Also, most people in CA don't have a clue about DVC, so they are less likely to plunk down a heap of cash quickly. This would not be a factor, of course, if those of you who think it will sell out to existing DVC members are right.

Just my thoughts. -- Suzanne

 

[JimMIA]

Maybe not the answer some wanted to hear, but not really off topic. You asked what we thought the market would be, and that's the question I answered...from my limited point of view.

In truth, I'm sure none of us has a clue whether there would be any significant market for GCV, but I'm sure Disney knows. I'm quite sure they've researched it, and I'm quite sure the results of that research played a big role in their decision to become licensed to sell timeshares in CA.

Your idea of a small DVC at GC ties in well with their recent announcements about smaller projects in numerous places, so it might make strategic sense...but that IS off topic from your original post.

 

[Mtnman44]

huh. What if you are going for a Disney vacation? It's not like they have one in every town...

I can see a nice market there for folks from the Rockies west, but frankly, I personally don't see much to get excited about.

I enjoy visiting California very much, but DL is WAY down on my list of places to go there. There are SO many better things to do in California. Taking a day out of a CA trip to visit DL (to me at least) is like going to Rome and looking for a Pizza Hut.

 

[Lexxiefern]

I think less than a year. I wonder how hard it would be to get a room at 7 months there? I would love to go to CA and stay in a 1 bedroom at disneyland for a week. Do you really think it would only be 50 units? I know the space there is limited, but that seems so small.

 

[disney-super-mom]

Maybe not the answer some wanted to hear, but not really off topic. You asked what we thought the market would be, and that's the question I answered...from my limited point of view.

In truth, I'm sure none of us has a clue whether there would be any significant market for GCV, but I'm sure Disney knows. I'm quite sure they've researched it, and I'm quite sure the results of that research played a big role in their decision to become licensed to sell timeshares in CA.

Your idea of a small DVC at GC ties in well with their recent announcements about smaller projects in numerous places, so it might make strategic sense...but that IS off topic from your original post.

Actually no, that isn't what I asked. I asked HOW FAST do you think a 50 unit GCV will sell out, and in a poll no less.

I never asked about anyone's personal opinions about Disneyland, nor for any analogies. However, I'm sure Walt would LOVE to hear that visiting Disneyland is like going to Rome and looking for a Pizza Hut. WHAT? EXQUEEZE ME? PLEEEEEZE!

 

[JimMIA]

Actually no, that isn't what I asked. I asked HOW FAST do you think a 50 unit GCV will sell out, and in a poll no less.

Oh okay. I misunderstood. I went back and voted "less than a year."

It will actually sell out in precisely 117 days...mostly to folks not familiar with what the incredible state of California has to offer.

I was wrong in saying Pizza Hut; it's really Di Giorno, compared to places like San Francisco, Big Sur, San Diego, Yosemite, Lake Tahoe, and dozens of other places.

 

[dwelty]

I can see a nice market there for folks from the Rockies west, but frankly, I personally don't see much to get excited about.

I enjoy visiting California very much, but DL is WAY down on my list of places to go there. There are SO many better things to do in California. Taking a day out of a CA trip to visit DL (to me at least) is like going to Rome and looking for a Pizza Hut.

Wish I could say the same thing about Florida, but WDW is the only thing in Florida worth seeing. The rest of the state is humid, flat, and crime ridden, with all major cities at the TOP of the list for violent crimes.

 

[JimMIA]

Wish I could say the same thing about Florida, but WDW is the only thing in Florida worth seeing. The rest of the state is humid, flat, and crime ridden, with all major cities at the TOP of the list for violent crimes.

Not true. Only the southern part of the state (the part south of I-4) is flat!

There's actually quite a bit to see whereever you go. You just have to slow down a bit and see what's there.

DL is certainly not the epitome of what California has to offer, and neither is WDW the best of Florida. Pretty darn good place...but not the best.

And before you ask -- it depends on what you like.

 

[JimMIA]

and crime ridden, with all major cities at the TOP of the list for violent crimes.

Just for a touch of accuracy (and reality), here are the rankings from FBI crime statistics for 2005, the latest year I could find. These are what the Uniform Crime Reporting system calls Part I crimes, commonly reported as "violent" crimes, and including Murder, Rape, Armed Robbery, Aggravated Assault, Burglary, Larceny, Auto Theft, and Arson.

1. Baltimore, with 42.0 violent crimes per 100,000 population
2. Detroit
3. St. Louis
4. Washington, DC
5. Newark
6. KC, Mo.
7. Philadelphia
8. Cinncinnatti
9. Cleveland
10. Oakland

Miami straggled in at 24th, with a Part I rate of 13.9 per 100,000 of population. That's one-third of Baltimore's rate. Not great, and we're still working on it, but hardly the TOP.

We are WAY off topic here, but I can't let such inaccuracies just stand without correcting them.

Let's all get back to OP's legitimate original premise.

 

[disney-super-mom]

Oh okay. I misunderstood. I went back and voted "less than a year."

It will actually sell out in precisely 117 days...mostly to folks not familiar with what the incredible state of California has to offer.

I was wrong in saying Pizza Hut; it's really Di Giorno, compared to places like San Francisco, Big Sur, San Diego, Yosemite, Lake Tahoe, and dozens of other places.

Okey dokey then.....whatever turns you on, Jim. I'm happy to hear how much you love California. It is a beautiful state, so enjoy it!

Now, lets get back to how fast everyone else thinks a 50 unit GCV will sell out.

 

[JimMIA]

Now, lets get back to how fast everyone else thinks a 50 unit GCV will sell out.

I agree. OP has a legitimate question here. Let's all (including me) stick to the subject at hand.

I voted for less than a year.

 

[wdw4life]

Well, I would think they'd be a little lower due to the fact that the GCV is not in an area prone to bad storms/hurricanes/tornados, and it's in a dry climate, making it much easier to maintain the upkeep of the buildings there.

However, there is always the possibility of damage due to an earthquake in California, but I would imagine that insurance rates are much higher in Florida.

I was thinking also at the GCV there should be no transportation costs. Now when they eventually build at the DLH then I could see the monorail in the MF's. But maybe transportation isn't a big part of the budget so wouldn't lower them in any significant way. I can't find my statement at the moment to check.

 

[disney-super-mom]

I think less than a year. I wonder how hard it would be to get a room at 7 months there? I would love to go to CA and stay in a 1 bedroom at disneyland for a week. Do you really think it would only be 50 units? I know the space there is limited, but that seems so small.

Well, it would be nice for it to be larger of course, just so someone who didn't own there could at least be somewhat likely to get in at 7 months, but I'm just going on what the rumor is. The current rumor is an addition of a 50 unit DVC to the GC. There's even photos of trees marked for removal around the proposed site of the addition.

50 units is really not a bad place to start for a DVC at the Disneyland Resort. Start small.....see how sales go.....if sales are strong and demand is big, then I'm sure Disney would expand DVC at the Disneyland Resort even more.

Plus, there's the development going on across the way on Katella, the Anaheim Garden Walk. It will bring in over 400,000 sq/ft of retail space, restaurants, and theatres, as well as 866 new hotel rooms and 400 timeshare units. This has GOT to be affecting Disney's furture plans to some extent I would think, considering it'll be HUGE competition for DTD, the Disney Resort Hotels, and any DVC. Time will tell.

 

[dwelty]

I was thinking also at the GCV there should be no transportation costs. Now when they eventually build at the DLH then I could see the monorail in the MF's. But maybe transportation isn't a big part of the budget so wouldn't lower them in any significant way. I can't find my statement at the moment to check.

This is a good point, I checked and transportation IS a big part of the budget at SSR. So I would think it would be lower at GCH.

 

[Pluto 2]

with the news today that disney will add 2 new ships, gcv will sell out a little quicker, need someplace to stay before the cruise. im assuming one ship will be at LA most of the time doing mexico cruises. have to go to disneyland before the cruise.