IALL Availability at 7 AM

[wisblue]

Now that our next trip is coming up in two weeks, I have been watching to see how Spring Break and removing 3 attractions from the IALL menu might be affecting availability.

On each of the last few days that I have looked, each of the 4 attractions has moved to "Not Currently Available" within the first minute or two after 7:00. ROTR has always been that way, but the others seemed to run out less quickly than that. Maube that is a result of having fewer IALL options available.

If I check back around 7:10 or 7:11 more times have been coming up for all of them, starting in the morning and moving out through the day a little more slowly than at 7. That has been the pattern at ROTR (and Slinky) for as long as I have been looking, but I never really paid as much attention to the others.

The real eye catcher for me, though, was that around 7:20 very early return times have started coming up for all of the 4 attractions, and have moved out very slowly. ROTR moved through the day more quickly than the others but the earliest possible times for FOP and Remy especially stayed very early for several minutes and through many refreshes.

Has anyone onsite been able to get a desirable return time around 7:20? Because the times don't change through several refreshes I wonder if you'd have a better chance of getting the time you select (or something closer to it) than you can right at 7 when the return times seem to jump out an hour or two as you go through each step of the booking process.

 

[MakiraMarlena]

I'm not sure what a desirable return time is. Not sure if most are shooting for first thing in the morning. I got Rise about 2:15 which was a good time for me. Before about 7:20-7:30 they were offering 8 PM and 9 pm but refreshing brought up 2:15 and that's what went through.

 

[abtahime]

Now that our next trip is coming up in two weeks, I have been watching to see how Spring Break and removing 3 attractions from the IALL menu might be affecting availability.

On each of the last few days that I have looked, each of the 4 attractions has moved to "Not Currently Available" within the first minute or two after 7:00. ROTR has always been that way, but the others seemed to run out less quickly than that. Maube that is a result of having fewer IALL options available.

If I check back around 7:10 or 7:11 more times have been coming up for all of them, starting in the morning and moving out through the day a little more slowly than at 7. That has been the pattern at ROTR (and Slinky) for as long as I have been looking, but I never really paid as much attention to the others.

The real eye catcher for me, though, was that around 7:20 very early return times have started coming up for all of the 4 attractions, and have moved out very slowly. ROTR moved through the day more quickly than the others but the earliest possible times for FOP and Remy especially stayed very early for several minutes and through many refreshes.

Has anyone onsite been able to get a desirable return time around 7:20? Because the times don't change through several refreshes I wonder if you'd have a better chance of getting the time you select (or something closer to it) than you can right at 7 when the return times seem to jump out an hour or two as you go through each step of the booking process.

I have also noticed this trend and have the same thought - especially since you can’t modify once you buy and I’ve read on here that the times you try to secure get pushed back as you go through the process of booking and paying. My only concern would be if it’s a super busy day as spring break is supposed to be are you taking a gamble with less or even no availability during that time

 

[wisblue]

I'm not sure what a desirable return time is. Not sure if most are shooting for first thing in the morning. I got Rise about 2:15 which was a good time for me. Before about 7:20-7:30 they were offering 8 PM and 9 pm but refreshing brought up 2:15 and that's what went through.

This really depends on your plan for the day.

I think a lot of people want to get the earliest time possible, in some cases because they plan to hop to another park later. Or they want to get the ride in early to provide a cushion in case it has breakdowns.

Some people want or need something later in the day if they are hopping from another park or maybe arriving to the resort at midday.

Some want early or late but not in between because they plan on a midday break. That will be us at DHS. My first choice would be to get ROTR for about 10AM, give or take an hour, so we can do it before lunch and have a backup to do it later if it breaks down in the morning. But, if that fails I would take 5 PM or later.

 

[ninafeliz]

Waiting is a gamble for sure, but if you continue to see that trend and want the earlier times that seem to be more stable a little later it seems like a viable way to schedule. We had our times move further out after choosing a time (President's day weekend) at ROTR, FOP, and Space Mountain. ROTR specifically was 7:30-8:30 after my confirmation, and I had chosen something line 3:30. So I wasn’t trying to get morning, but still got pushed back. This was right at 7:00 am, but after getting SDD as quickly as possible. Luckily the times all worked for us. I know I would be super anxious not booking when I saw it available though! Harder if you cannot go after a certain time, like you need to park hop or leave for an ADR elsewhere. Then it getting pushed back is much worse. Try a screen shot of the original time you choose? I’ve read of that working, but then you have to stand in a line to try to get it changed.

 

[wisblue]

I just looked at the Thrill Data site, and their data is consistent with this pattern, especially for Remy, FOP, and 7DMT.

From 7:00 to 7:20 the available times are late in the day or gone altogether. But, starting at 7:20 there are times available in the morning and early afternoon for the next hour or so.

For ROTR there are some times available, but not as early and not for as long. There trying at 7:11 might be better; Thrill Data might not catch that because they only report on every 10 minutes.

There's no way to test this from home unless you have a park reservation for the day, but I would hope that if return times for 9 AM are available you'd be able to pick almost any time after that, or at least have a large selection, and that the time you book would be close to the time you first select.

 

[wisblue]

Waiting is a gamble for sure, but if you continue to see that trend and want the earlier times that seem to be more stable a little later it seems like a viable way to schedule. We had our times move further out after choosing a time (President's day weekend) at ROTR, FOP, and Space Mountain. ROTR specifically was 7:30-8:30 after my confirmation, and I had chosen something line 3:30. So I wasn’t trying to get morning, but still got pushed back. This was right at 7:00 am, but after getting SDD as quickly as possible. Luckily the times all worked for us. I know I would be super anxious not booking when I saw it available though! Harder if you cannot go after a certain time, like you need to park hop or leave for an ADR elsewhere. Then it getting pushed back is much worse. Try a screen shot of the original time you choose? I’ve read of that working, but then you have to stand in a line to try to get it changed.

I might be willing to gamble because we have a reservation at DHS on Wednesday, but on Friday we are going to Epcot in the morning and for lunch, but have the afternoon and evening unplanned. So, we could use that to get something for ROTR in the late afternoon or evening if we don't get a convenient time on Wednesday.

I guess that's one of the advantages of the current system over FP+. You can make plans day by day based on what you've missed or want to repeat.

 

[Westerner]

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[wisblue]

good thread wisblue. Fyi I’ve read on other sites that 7:17am is a fruitful time for $ILL’s. Onsite guests only, obviously.

That would make sense.

Because Thrill Data seems to take readings every 10 minutes if something started at 7:17 it would first show up in their 7:20 reading.

I‘ll be watching this before our trip because we intend to get ILL reservations for Remy, ROTR, and FOP.

I occasionally have issues right at 7 with the app spinning and then showing the “Something Went Wrong“ screen, so those second chances may be needed.

 

[wisblue]

I tried this this morning and, while there was some additional availability at 7:11, the real change did come at 7:17.

All four of the IALL attractions had a lot of new availability, even ROTR, and the return times all started pretty close to park opening. I checked every few minutes after that and all were always available, and all but ROTR had very early times.

At 8 PM they all still had some availability.

If this pattern continues for the next two weeks I will probably not even bother trying to get IALL right at 7 because it might be easier to get a time that you actually select, instead of one two or more hours later than where you started.

I’ll have a unique opportunity to test this tomorrow because our daughter who lives in the area has a reservation at Epcot so I shoukd be able to check Remy all the way to the point of purchasing. If I slip up she might be getting a ride on me.

 

[Tom_E_D]

I tried this this morning and, while there was some additional availability at 7:11, the real change did come at 7:17.

All four of the IALL attractions had a lot of new availability, even ROTR, and the return times all started pretty close to park opening. I checked every few minutes after that and all were always available, and all but ROTR had very early times.

At 8 PM they all still had some availability.

If this pattern continues for the next two weeks I will probably not even bother trying to get IALL right at 7 because it might be easier to get a time that you actually select, instead of one two or more hours later than where you started.

I’ll have a unique opportunity to test this tomorrow because our daughter who lives in the area has a reservation at Epcot so I shoukd be able to check Remy all the way to the point of purchasing. If I slip up she might be getting a ride on me.

Be a loving parent. Be sure to "slip up."

 

[HydroGuy]

I tried this this morning and, while there was some additional availability at 7:11, the real change did come at 7:17.

All four of the IALL attractions had a lot of new availability, even ROTR, and the return times all started pretty close to park opening. I checked every few minutes after that and all were always available, and all but ROTR had very early times.

At 8 PM they all still had some availability.

If this pattern continues for the next two weeks I will probably not even bother trying to get IALL right at 7 because it might be easier to get a time that you actually select, instead of one two or more hours later than where you started.

I’ll have a unique opportunity to test this tomorrow because our daughter who lives in the area has a reservation at Epcot so I shoukd be able to check Remy all the way to the point of purchasing. If I slip up she might be getting a ride on me.

This is super helpful...I think you had a typo on 8PM.

The real question is one we should not have to ask ourselves if the system worked better and actually gave you ILL$ return times they said they would: Who is brave enough to NOT get your ILL$ at 7AM and wait until say 7:11 or 7:17AM to hopefully get a better return window?

If I had multiple days at the parks to try this (and if it fails I have another day at that park to go back to plan A) then I might. When I show up there in a couple weeks we are squeezing in a brief visit for 3 park days total - Day #1 at DHS, Day #2 at MK and Day #3 at Epcot. I do not think I would be brave enough - especially for ROTR - which I rode several times at DLR in 2020 before COVID by DW never has. And she is a huge Star Wars fan.

 

[MakiraMarlena]

the next time I do this (I've done it twice and now my whole family has been on ROTR so I probably won't need to do it again) I am definitely waiting for 7:17.

 

[wisblue]

This is super helpful...I think you had a typo on 8PM.

The real question is one we should not have to ask ourselves if the system worked better and actually gave you ILL$ return times that said they would: Who is brave enough to NOT get your ILL$ at 7AM and wait until say 7:11 or 7:17AM to hopefully get a better return window?

If I had multiple days at the parks to try this (and it it fails I have another day at that park to go back to plan A) then I might. When I show up there in couple weeks we are squeezing in a brief visit for 3 park days total - Day #1 at DHS, Day #2 at MK and Day #3 at Epcot. I do not think I would be brave enough - especially for ROTR - which I rode several times at DLR in 2020 before COVID by DW never has. And she is a huge Star Wars fan.

Thank you on the typo, that has been corrected.

Having more than one day so you have a backup if it fails the first time adds significantly to the courage to try this.

In your case, I would definitely try first right at 7:00, especially if you aren't hopping to another park later and would accept any time you can get.

But, it will hopefully reduce anxiety levels if your screen freezes or you get the dreaded "something went wrong" screen and by the time you can reload and refresh the "Not Currently Offered" sign is up.

 

[wisblue]

Be a loving parent. Be sure to "slip up."

Hah.

I think I'm a loving parent and would happily buy her a ride if she wants it.

But, because she lives in the area and can go to the parks frequently, she some times goes to Epcot early just to walk around the park and doesn't go on any rides. If I slip up and get a Remy time after noon she might not want it.

 

[MinnieInVA]

I can confirm that waiting til 7:17-ish works! I ended up doing that 2 weeks ago for SDMT, ROTR, FOP, and Remy, because I got shut out at 7 am. I still tried at 7, but by the 3rd day, at least I wasn’t panicking about not getting an ILL with the 7 am drop. And there were times available pretty much all day, including the morning with the 7:17 drop.

 

[Ohiostatefan606]

Waiting and refreshing works. We were at Disney over President's Day weekend. No park reservations available for 2/19 or 2/20, so as close as you can get for matching Spring Break.

2/20 was our Hollywood Studios day, keep in mind, we still had the option to purchase both MMRR and ROTR.

Here is how it went.....

What we thought would be a disaster turned into the best day!
We are at Hollywood Studios for my birthday. Not planned this way, we were supposed to have gone to Disney in January. The reschedule meant I got to spend my birthday at my favorite park!

7:00 am - Can't even get Genie+ to load to even attempt to get anything. We did not have this problem any of the other days.
My husband is also trying. He gets through, does his "job" get Smugglers Run
My job was ROTR. Of course they are gone by the time I get Genie to load.
And Smugglers Run is during our dining reservation.
We buy MMRR for 5:10, perfect
I know, because I researched, more slots drop at 7:10. I can see Smugglers has times showing for earlier. I roll the dice, cancel Smugglers. OMG, then I can't get one.
Calmly refresh a few times - BAM! more times, I get 10:40 am.
So I've resigned myself that we won't get on ROTR. We've ridden it before. I am getting ready, keep my phone by me, keep refreshing - BOOM! ROTR has more times, get 7:35 pm.

Head over to HS on the Skyliner, stop for COFFEE at Starbucks, sit and eat. The line for RnRC is building. We get in line before official park opening, but it is long. It starts at the upside down car and is half way down Sunset Blvd. But once the park opens, we walk almost all the way into the recording studio room. Basically, 15 minutes at Rope Drop. We decide to circle and ride again. We are off our second ride by 9:10. Head to TSMM, posted 45 minutes, takes about 30.

Walk through Batuu, head to Star Tours, posted 30 minutes, takes about 15. Time for Smugglers!
Use our LL.
As soon as we scan in, I book TSMM for 3:50 pm
Walk through Batuu, see Chewy walking around. Take some pictures. Decide on Muppets, which puts us right by Sci-Fi for our lunch reservation.
After lunch, back to StarTours, get a different "tour"
Walk through the shops on Hollywood Blvd and Sunset Blvd.
Son wants a donut from Joffrey's - it is tucked back by the exit from ToT. Take some time to sit and relax. At some point I picked up LL for Star Tours
Head off for our back to back afternoon
Oga's 3:35
LL for TSMM 3:50 - 4:50
$LL MMRR 5:00 - 6:00
LL StarTours 5:10 - 6:10
Dinner at Mama Melrose's
$LL ROTR 7:35 - 8:35

$LL: ROTR and MMRR
Standby: RnRC - twice / TSMM / StarTours - twice / Muppets
LL: Smugglers / TSMM / Star Tours - We could have gotten Aliens as a LL, but we decided on a 3rd Star Tours
Food: Sci-Fi / Joffrey's Donut / Oga's / Mama Melrose's

We didn't MISS anything we wanted to ride. We have our favorites and we checked them all off the list. The lines for Photopass in Batuu were long, so I didn't get those. But I did get the Toy Story Land photo.

***Best Birthday EVER***

 

[HydroGuy]

But, it will hopefully reduce anxiety levels if your screen freezes or you get the dreaded "something went wrong" screen and by the time you can reload and refresh the "Not Currently Offered" sign is up.

Yep, that is the main value of the study you are conducting!

 

[godfather927]

I just looked at the Thrill Data site, and their data is consistent with this pattern, especially for Remy, FOP, and 7DMT.

From 7:00 to 7:20 the available times are late in the day or gone altogether. But, starting at 7:20 there are times available in the morning and early afternoon for the next hour or so.

For ROTR there are some times available, but not as early and not for as long. There trying at 7:11 might be better; Thrill Data might not catch that because they only report on every 10 minutes.

There's no way to test this from home unless you have a park reservation for the day, but I would hope that if return times for 9 AM are available you'd be able to pick almost any time after that, or at least have a large selection, and that the time you book would be close to the time you first select.

I've been watching Thrill Data LL availability for each of the parks daily and am starting to plan my park strategies around this. Does anyone know roughly how accurate their data is? I know they pull it from queries via the MDE app, but was curious to see if anyone else has found it to be fairly accurately in their experience or whether I am being led astray by using it as the basis of my planning for my trip next month.

 

[wisblue]

I don’t know how precisely accurate it is, but I don’t think there is any better tool for giving you an idea of what kind of lines and LL availability you might find at a given time of the day.

The key is to focus as much as possible on days that have crowds close to what is expected during your trip.

I am going to be looking at it for the next two weeks to decide what to target for my LL selections for a 4 day trip coming up the week of 3/21.