I was not allowed to use rocking chairs at Baby Care Center

[Suellen]

Some people have a knack for reading something however they want to.

I MEANT that a policy that only BFing moms are allowed in to the nursing room and when to enforce it.

*sigh* and it isn't about amenities. It is about a baby who may need to have a QUIET place to eat no matter how they eat. The main room CAN have people coming in going, a television going and other distractions that may interrupt a babies ability to feed. IT IS ABOUT THE BABY AND WHAT THEY MAY NEED TO FEED APPROPRIATELY! It is about a mom who felt she had a NEED for the room and was rudely turned away.

 

[designermv]

From WDWinfo.com:

There is a private nursing room that can accommodate up to four mothers at a time. It has 4 wooden rockers, a few side tables and there are electrical outlets available for the mom needing to use her breast pump.

Four mothers. I think it's pretty freaking SAD that people are getting their panties in a wad about wanting access to the ONE PLACE breastfeeding women can go to nurse in private.

 

[Suellen]

I don't want to access it. I am saying if a mom trying to feed her child needs it for a specific reason she should not be rudely turned away.

 

[photo_chick]

I'm sorry, but "nursing" is at the breast. "to nurse" can be considered 'taking care of' as in, you nurse your child back to health......buut I think you're really reaching there.

And you are entitled to your opinion. Obviously this is a hot issue with a lot of differing viewpoints.

If you're going to offer the facility it needs to be universally fair. Which really also means they need a quiet room for fathers who handle the feedings, as many dads do these days.

If the room fills up, it fills up. Why are the needs of a breastfeeding mother any more important than those of a bottle feeding mother? Because by having the room for one and not the other that is the message being sent.

And it's not just one room. I've encountered this at places in my area and I understand it's a Disney wide policy at all of their centers.

 

[littlbugmom]

Some people have a knack for reading something however they want to.

I MEANT that a policy that only BFing moms are allowed in to the nursing room and when to enforce it.

*sigh* and it isn't about amenities. It is about a baby who may need to have a QUIET place to eat no matter how they eat. The main room CAN have people coming in going, a television going and other distractions that may interrupt a babies ability to feed. IT IS ABOUT THE BABY AND WHAT THEY MAY NEED TO FEED APPROPRIATELY! It is about a mom who felt she had a NEED for the room and was rudely turned away.

The rudely part we all agree on. If the policy was politely enforced, we'd still be having this discussion.

Thank you for explaining what you meant. I didn't read it the way I wanted to read it. I read it the way you typed it. The only policy they have is about who is allowed to use the nursing rooms. It's not about bfing vs bottlefeeding. It's a small space and that space needs to be available for nursing moms....the ones who need privacy.

I get that some babies are used to a quiet room. I get it. If the Centers are as unused all the time as they are when you have visited them, EVERY room is a quiet room. But since it's likely that the Centers actually get busy, I'm taking the position of supporting the policy of only nursing moms in the nursing rooms because the rooms are small.

If the policy isn't enforced, the "nursing rooms" will become the "quiet rooms". If a quiet room is needed, it shouldn't come at the expense of the small room intended for nursing moms. Why not lobby for Disney to change the existing rooms to better fit the needs of moms who wants a quiet spot ?Another small room that could be called a "quiet room"? Move the tv out and dim the lights? I don't know. If Disney isn't meeting the needs of moms who bottlefeed, tell them how they can.


As I've said before....I wish it were as easy as let a bottlefeeding mom use it if there is a chair available but I don't think it is. It's easy to say "oh, I'd get up and let a nursing mom use that chair" but for every woman who would, there are several behind her who would get mad about having to move.

 

[bigmama67]

I actually think it's a fair rule. You can feed a bottle anywhere at WDW. Nursing moms deserve some privacy if they wish. Of course everyone would like to relax, but those centers are not meant to cater to every single parent with a baby at the parks.

Jumping in on this late...but I think it's completely UNFAIR! I am currently nursing my DD, and DS went till he was 4. As far as I'm concerned, you could have my rocking chair...I have no shame, I'll whip it out whenever she needs me to! Also, apropos of the people who come in with older kids...what if they are extended nursing too? Hmmm...if I need to nurse DD at AK this August (she'll be close to 2) I wonder if they'll tell me "she's too old for you to bring her in here"?

 

[photo_chick]

As I've said before....I wish it were as easy as let a bottlefeeding mom use it if there is a chair available but I don't think it is. It's easy to say "oh, I'd get up and let a nursing mom use that chair" but for every woman who would, there are several behind her who would get mad about having to move.

If you feel a bottle feeding mother should give up the chair for a nursing mother you are implying that the needs of a breastfeeding mother are more important than those of a bottle feeding mother.

For me, when I was bottle feeding both of my children, it was a time when we bonded. I liked it quiet and calm and quite frankly a little private. And I know I'm not the only mom who feels this way. To think that only breastfeeding mothers need privacy is narrow minded, in my opinion.

 

[Suellen]

You in all these sentences are used as a general you.

So let's just paint this scenario and see how you would feel on the opposite side of it.

You are sitting in the TV room trying to feed your easily distracted infant when a family comes in to warm food and feed toddler with 4 or 5 year old sibling and dad in tow.

Your baby is distracted and not able to focus on eating yet needing to be fed. Let's say this goes on for 20 minutes and the ENTIRE time you deal with this there is an empty, quiet room you COULD go into to feed your infant in a decent environment that he/she is more used to ~ yet you are told you can't use the room that has sat empty the ENTIRE time because of the method you are using to try to feed that infant.

The feeling I get from this thread is "too bad ~ I MIGHT need it ~ sorry your child isn't getting the nutrition they need ~ but should I decide at some point in the future to use that chair you best not be in it"

Even though it has gone unused the entire time? No.... too bad. You struggle with feeding your child while I think about MAYBE using that quiet spot that would solve your problem.

I don't get it.

Again ~ so glad I don't need to use these BCC anymore.

 

[littlbugmom]

And you are entitled to your opinion. Obviously this is a hot issue with a lot of differing viewpoints.

If you're going to offer the facility it needs to be universally fair. Which really also means they need a quiet room for fathers who handle the feedings, as many dads do these days.

If the room fills up, it fills up. Why are the needs of a breastfeeding mother any more important than those of a bottle feeding mother? Because by having the room for one and not the other that is the message being sent.

And it's not just one room. I've encountered this at places in my area and I understand it's a Disney wide policy at all of their centers.

And you are entitled to your opinion. Obviously this is a hot issue with a lot of differeing viewpoints.

If you're going to offer the facility it needs to be universally fair. Which really also means they need a quiet room for fathers who handle the feedings, as many dads do these days.

It's not just my opinion. It's Merriam-Webster's opinion. The definition of nursing is not to just feed your child. When speaking of feeding children, my husband feeds our children but he has never nursed them. It is to nourish at the breast, to take nourishment from the breast, to suckle an infant, to feed an offspring from the breast, etc....

It's also the opinion of the general society we live in. Ask any pregnant woman if she plans on nursing. If nursing meant to feed, every single pregnant woman would answer "of course I'm going to feed my child!".

I could probably find an odd definition somewhere that might stretch the meaning of the verb "nurse" but we are talking about bfing.

 

[littlbugmom]

If you feel a bottle feeding mother should give up the chair for a nursing mother you are implying that the needs of a breastfeeding mother are more important than those of a bottle feeding mother.

For me, when I was bottle feeding both of my children, it was a time when we bonded. I liked it quiet and calm and quite frankly a little private. And I know I'm not the only mom who feels this way. To think that only breastfeeding mothers need privacy is narrow minded, in my opinion.

If you had read the thread, you would know that many of the posters who want the nursing room opened to all moms have said that they would give up their seat if a nursing mom needed it. It was to that idea I was referring. I don't like that idea because I think it puts both moms in an unfair and uncomfortable position.

There are only 4 chairs in that room. It is a room for nursing mothers to use for a bit of privacy. Because she pulls out her breast to feed her child. If 4 moms using bottles are in there and a nursing mom arrives, the nursing room is not available. It can no longer be called a nursing room if it is not available when a nursing mom needs it because it is being used by non-nursing moms. If your position is to get rid of the nursing room altogether, please read all of my other posts in this thread because we've already talked about talked about why the room is needed. (complaints about bfing in public, bfing moms being insulted and made to feel uncomfortable etc..)


I think all parents have a certain way they want to feed their child...things that they do at home can't always be duplicated at an amusement park. I do not think bfing moms are the only ones who need privacy or quiet rooms or a rocking chair. (I've said that a few times in this thread, too) I do, however believe that a small room with 4 chairs in it is a good thing for Disney to offer women who expose their breasts to feed their children.

 

[photo_chick]

It's not just my opinion. It's Merriam-Webster's opinion. The definition of nursing is not to just feed your child. When speaking of feeding children, my husband feeds our children but he has never nursed them. It is to nourish at the breast, to take nourishment from the breast, to suckle an infant, to feed an offspring from the breast, etc....

It's also the opinion of the general society we live in. Ask any pregnant woman if she plans on nursing. If nursing meant to feed, every single pregnant woman would answer "of course I'm going to feed my child!".

I could probably find an odd definition somewhere that might stretch the meaning of the verb "nurse" but we are talking about bfing.

You just can't stand to let someone have a different opinion, can you?

 

[littlbugmom]

So let's just paint this scenario and see how you would feel on the opposite side of it.

You are sitting in the TV room trying to feed your easily distracted infant when a family comes in to warm food and feed toddler with 4 or 5 year old sibling and dad in tow.

Your baby is distracted and not able to focus on eating yet needing to be fed. Let's say this goes on for 20 minutes and the ENTIRE time you deal with this there is an empty, quiet room you COULD go into to feed your infant in a decent environment that he/she is more used to ~ yet you are told you can't use the room that has sat empty the ENTIRE time because of the method you are using to try to feed that infant.


I've been that mother, trying to nurse my very distracted and not cooperating DS with families all around me...men, teenagers, little kids who point as my DS pulls and stretches my nipple out for all to see. That was me trying to cover up when DD pulled her blanket off and started grabbing my shirt and lifting it higher so that most of my Dcup breast was visible to the man making the face at me.

I understand distractions and trying to feed a baby, especially while on vacation because they are already overstimulated from being in the parks. I understand that the little room that's so quiet and empty would be perfect and I understand that it seems like a waste.

But I also understand that doing away with the "nursing mothers only" policy will open up that room so that it is no longer a nursing room. It would happen over time, not right away...but eventually, a nursing mom would be sitting in the room when the family comes in to warm food and feed toddler with 4 or 5 year old sibling and dad in tow and her breast would be exposed.


The feeling I get from this thread is "too bad ~ I MIGHT need it ~ sorry your child isn't getting the nutrition they need ~ but should I decide at some point in the future to use that chair you best not be in it"


Not at all. I've said several times that I think there is a better solution than doing away with the nursing room. I don't have a "too bad" attitude at all. I think Disney can do something to make the moms who bottle feed happy without eliminating the nursing room.

(I think saying the bottle fed child isn't getting the nutrition it needs is painting it a little heavy, though. Babies will eat when they are hungry, it might not be easy at times and that goes for bfing babies too....nursing room or no nursing room)


Even though it has gone unused the entire time? No.... too bad. You struggle with feeding your child while I think about MAYBE using that quiet spot that would solve your problem.


See, the only resolution you are willing to consider is the one that does away with that one small room set aside for nursing moms. That one small room with 4 chairs is going to solve the problem. No, it's not. Turning it into a "quiet room" will create more problems. And I truly believe it will be turned into a "quiet room" if the policy of nursing mothers only isn't enforced. Over time, it will become a "quiet room".....with 4 chairs....and some other mom trying to feed her easily distracted child a bottle will be out in the noisy room with the Dad and the older siblings and the nursing mom whose breast is exposed . So, no...I don't believe that room is going to solve problems for everyone. I think changing the other rooms is a better answer.

 

[tartemis]

If you had read the thread, you would know that many of the posters who want the nursing room opened to all moms have said that they would give up their seat if a nursing mom needed it. It was to that idea I was referring. I don't like that idea because I think it puts both moms in an unfair and uncomfortable position.

There are only 4 chairs in that room. It is a room for nursing mothers to use for a bit of privacy. Because she pulls out her breast to feed her child. If 4 moms using bottles are in there and a nursing mom arrives, the nursing room is not available. It can no longer be called a nursing room if it is not available when a nursing mom needs it because it is being used by non-nursing moms. If your position is to get rid of the nursing room altogether, please read all of my other posts in this thread because we've already talked about talked about why the room is needed. (complaints about bfing in public, bfing moms being insulted and made to feel uncomfortable etc..)


I think all parents have a certain way they want to feed their child...things that they do at home can't always be duplicated at an amusement park. I do not think bfing moms are the only ones who need privacy or quiet rooms or a rocking chair. (I've said that a few times in this thread, too) I do, however believe that a small room with 4 chairs in it is a good thing for Disney to offer women who expose their breasts to feed their children.

Well said.

It seems that if the bottle-feeding moms can't see this point, it seems likely that they are insecure with the fact that they bottle-feed their kids (which is not something to be ashamed of).

 

[littlbugmom]

You just can't stand to let someone have a different opinion, can you?

There are many people involved in this thread whose opinions are very different from mine. I can stand them just fine.


But I can't wrap my mind around my husband nursing our children. I'm sorry but I nursed my kids and we both bottle fed my DS.



I'm tired. Going to bed. 'night all.

 

[Indiana Rose Lee]

You just can't stand to let someone have a different opinion, can you?

lol, and you can't accept that some words have definitions. Nursing is a medical term used for breast feeding. Hmmm...I am going to decide that another word for beer is water. And get all huffy if people disagree.lol

This isn't about feeding. It is about breasts. Disney doesn't care if people have a quiet place to feed a baby. They want a private place for exposed breasts. Pure and simple.

 

[annette20071]

If you feel a bottle feeding mother should give up the chair for a nursing mother you are implying that the needs of a breastfeeding mother are more important than those of a bottle feeding mother.

For me, when I was bottle feeding both of my children, it was a time when we bonded. I liked it quiet and calm and quite frankly a little private. And I know I'm not the only mom who feels this way. To think that only breastfeeding mothers need privacy is narrow minded, in my opinion.

The point you are missing is Disney is a company, and they are never going to satisfy every mother in how THEY want things to be. It is not DISNEY'S responsibility to provide a quiet place for you to bottlefeed. You are at a theme park for goodness sake. It is also not Disney's responsibility to provide a nursing room. However, they CHOOSE to for the various reasons stated repeatedly on this thread. Disney provides FOUR chairs in a private room for nursing moms. Apparently Disney thinks that the complaints about NIP are more important than providing a private room for you to bottlefeed when you are at their theme park.

 

[annette20071]

You just can't stand to let someone have a different opinion, can you?

Did you ever study the difference between FACT and OPINION? You are not expressing an opinion, you are stating inaccurate facts.

 

[maxiesmom]

I can't beleive all this ruckus over a room with 4 chairs in it. I think it is pretty great that Disney has a room for nursing moms, not everyone is comfortable breast feeding in public, so it was nice of Disney to do something for them. And yet people come on here and have fits about not being able to use that small room any way THEY see fit.

It is sad that in an attempt to offer women some privacy they anger others who feel they are being slighted. There are all sorts of nooks and crannys you can find on Disney property that are out of the way and quiet enough that you can bottle feed your baby. I mean, do all of you mothers who demand a dark and quiet room to bottle feed have that all the time at home? If you are out and about and your baby is hungry, do you go home, pull the shades and then feed them? I highly doubt it. You simply find and out of the way spot and take care of the baby's needs. You can do the same thing at Disney World.

 

[El&Asmom]

lol, and you can't accept that some words have definitions. Nursing is a medical term used for breast feeding. Hmmm...I am going to decide that another word for beer is water. And get all huffy if people disagree.lol

This isn't about feeding. It is about breasts. Disney doesn't care if people have a quiet place to feed a baby. They want a private place for exposed breasts. Pure and simple.

I completely agree.
I haven't read this entire thread, just the beginning and end. Initially, I was appalled that the OP was not allowed to bottle feed her baby in the nursing room. I once sat in the MK nursing room bfing dd2 chatting with another mom who was bottlefeeding her child. No one asked her to leave, maybe the policy was different 3 years ago.
I am a big time lactivist, but can understand how painful it is for women who so wanted to bf not to be able to, and then to have a CM tell them to move since they are not bfing their child. Unfortunately, it's not Disney's problem. Bfing moms get more flack than bottle feeding moms in public. I could care less who looks at me as I nurse my dc anywhere I choose to. Sadly, there are many other bfing mothers that don't feel this way. Some would rather bf in a dirty bathroom, then have to expose herself in public. (When I started bfing dd1, I did this once, and decided never again. She deserves to eat whenever she needs to, and not in a bathroom).
This is not about condemning a way someone chooses to feed her child. It is about breasts. Plain and simple. Disney is offering a place for women to cover their breasts while they feed their children.

 

[roliepolieoliefan]

Well said.

It seems that if the bottle-feeding moms can't see this point, it seems likely that they are insecure with the fact that they bottle-feed their kids .

WHAT?????

This has to be one of the rudest comments I have ever read on these boards. I don't even know what else to say.

I've wrote a few things but erased since I can't afford the points.