I just sent the asst. principal an EMail at 3:30AM! What have I done?(long)

I think there is absolutly nothing wrong with you going to bat for your daughter. I believe that is the job of the parent. I wish mine would have. Sorry for the long post, but I wanted to share what my education was like and how it could have been different had my parents fought for me.

I moved a few times in my childhood, and they happened to be at bad times, mathwise. When I was in 3rd grade we moved in November. My new school had already learned simple multiplication. I knew nothing of the sorts. I remember bringing home flashcards that I had to make in class and every single night I had to go over those stupid things. I learned them, and I learned them well. We moved again at the start of 5th grade. It was a very small school, and the class was not divided by level. There were just two classes. We switched teachers for subjects, but we were always with the same kids. I believe somewhere in my school stuff I still have a t-shirt that says "Math Wizard". I received that shirt in front of the whole middle school (OK, so I'm still just a little proud of myself) because I completed all of my timed test on addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division first in the whole 5th grade. So, obviously, I not only caught up in math, but I also excelled. Math was easy for me. Story problems never created a problem for me. It just clicked. No problem.

So, now we move again at the end of 6th grade. I move to a bigger school, and they divide the classes by math level. Well, who knows where to put me? No one, so they put me in the average class. Not a problem with that, nothing wrong with the average class, but I didn't belong there. In 7th grade, I loved math. I aced it. I never had a problem doing anything, but I also was not challenged. I had a very strict teacher that didn't allow for me to goof off. So, I became a brown-noser and answered all the questions. I had all A's in math. In 8th grade, the teacher was HORRIBLE! He should not have been teaching even kindergarten math. I spent all of my 8th grade math year writing a story about my 8th grade science teacher that I was in love with :lovestruc I think about all the math I payed attention to in 8th grade was trying to figure out how much of an age difference there was between the science teacher and myself.

Now it's time for high school. I got to pick my own classes. And, guess what, for any of the students who were overlooked on the math thing, you could make up for that by taking Algebra and Geometry at the same time. So, now that I was the one making the decision, I did that. I had no studyhalls, but that was the only way that I was going to get to take Calc. my senior year. The same thing goes for English. Without boring you to death, I was put in average and I did a wonderful job in all things related to English - spelling being my downfall.

So, my point being in this LONG story is that had my parents cared enough to push the school and disgree with placement, it would have allowed me to be challenged, because that is a good thing. It would have also allowed me to not have such a heavy load in highschool. And, it would have allowed me to believe I was as smart as I was. My daughter is very bright. She turned 5 in Oct. and the cut-off was in Sept. She could read when she was 4. I went to the principal at the beginning of the year and told him she needed to not be in kindergarten because she'd be bored. After giving her the little pre-kindergarten test, they decided 1st would be good. Not only is she in 1st grade, but she is at the TOP of her 1st grade class. She should have stayed behind because it's not fair to the rest of the kids who had to wait another year?

It is our job as parents to fight for our children and make sure they are not left behind.
 
Here is my Middle School Algebra and Pre-Algebra Teacher experience:

I taught these classes for several years. I have to say....regardless of a child's desire and work ethic...if they place below the cutoff on a placement test, it is NOT a good idea to have them in the class anyway. I have seen several students be JUST below the cut off, have their parents complain, and see the school let them in the class. What happens, almost without exception, is that they child is clearly not up to the algebra ability of the others, and before the first week is done, they feel inferior, they start to fall behind, they spend the entire first quarter feeling like they are "drowning" in class because the concepts are over their head at that speed, and they are unable to master each one, because they are always behind. Remember Math builds on itself, if you are missing the first pieces, the skills are never formed properly.

The result is either having to move down a class (which is SUCH a blow to a child's self esteem---they see it as a very public failure), OR having them stay on that accelerated math track, and NEVER form a solidified foundation in MATH--which will be a big problem in high school and on college entrance exams. It may sound like an over-dramatization of what happens, but as a Math Teacher, trust me, it is not.

Keep her in the class in which she was placed. She will have a better chance at learning the basics and key components, so that she will be more successful in Algebra! If she is as dedicated as you say, she will most likely achieve a high GPA throughout high school which is a huge part of college acceptance.
 
Well I got a reply from the AP and Kelly will not be in Pre-Algebra. I'm fine with it and a lot of it is because of the different perspectives I got here today. I deeply appreciate all of your help and comments.
She did say if she does "extremely well" in the fall we can look into bumping her up, but she wants to focus on keeping her GPA at honor roll level and enjoying 7th grade. Now I don't have anything to stress over until next year, when they sign up for 8th grade foreign language and there are limited spots based on first come, first serve!
Robin M.
 
foreign language is first come first serve?

that's terrible!

NY requires foreign language in high school. everyone must pass a foreign language proficiency exam. our school district makes it mandatory in middle school! my older dd, who's in 8th grade, will be taking the high school proficiency exam in a few weeks. she's been taking Spanish since 6th grade, so she should have no trouble passing the exam.

my 6th grader loves foreign language. she's got a real ear for it.
 

Originally posted by Rock'n Robin
She did say if she does "extremely well" in the fall we can look into bumping her up, but she wants to focus on keeping her GPA at honor roll level and enjoying 7th grade.

That was the priority for myself......keeping my GPA up and making that high schol transcript look GOOD! I eventually went to a few honors classes and realized alot of those SMART kids were not so smart afterall. I was doing better than they were, but I did not feel like I mastered those classes...they were too involved and I was not enjoying the material. I went to school to learn...not cram information. I graduated with my AVERAGE diploma, but with honors status due to my GPA. Got me qualified for scholarships and I could go to just about any college I set my mind to. It's really not all about the status of the class......it's what you get out of the class (and your final grade) that is important.
 
Originally posted by Rafikifan
In our state we have the TOPS program and you can receive scholarship money with a g.p.a. of 2.5 according to a letter my dd who will be a freshman in high school next year received.

Rafikifan............What is VERY important about TOPS(which my kids have-hooray!) is to take the correct classes in High School.

BE SURE and get a TOPS brochure, (attend a conference if offered )because if your child does not have the right amount of Englishes and Maths (etc) no matter how high their grades -no TOPS.

TOPS requires more English, Math and Social Studies than the Public Schools require for graduation. Do your homework and you'll save yourself lots of $$$$.:D
 
Originally posted by Ragmop
Rafikifan............What is VERY important about TOPS(which my kids have-hooray!) is to take the correct classes in High School.

BE SURE and get a TOPS brochure, (attend a conference if offered )because if your child does not have the right amount of Englishes and Maths (etc) no matter how high their grades -no TOPS.

TOPS requires more English, Math and Social Studies than the Public Schools require for graduation. Do your homework and you'll save yourself lots of $$$$.:D

Thank you Ragmop. I will definitely do my homework and make sure that she takes the right classes. Even though many don't really believe it when they're teenagers, a college degree is something you won't ever regret working for IMO.
 
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As a teacher, I am going to agree that she did miss the cut off by a rather large margin. Those benchmarks are there for a reason and rhey usually are pretty good indicators of success in AP classes.

As a parent, please be careful that you are NOT putting your daughter in a situation that she is not ready for. Is this something she wants, or is this something you want? Are you just doing this to insure scholarship money? Be careful of the message that you are sending. What if she DOES get into that class but can't keep up. Will she feel that she has failed YOU in some way or ruined her chances at a scholarship?

Childhood should be a jouney, not a race.

Let her enjoy her middle school experiences without fear of failing or not living up to expectations.

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Glad you are content with your daughter's placement for next year. My kids are still in elemetary school but there is a lot of competition for bragging rights that one's child is "above grade" level. Our high schools switched to 4 75 minute classes per day. So those "above grade" kids will have finished all possible hs math before they even take SATs. They head to college having not had a math class for 3 or 4 semesters. The one-grade elementary kids end up with the same math class options in high school but they just take them later in their hs career - & closer to college.
 














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