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REVIEW: Flying Fish (Part I of II)

SUMMARY: Still a great meal, but where are the plastic lobsters?

This also was a mid-week dinner ADR for a party of 5 (3 adults, 2 children) at the very early dinner time of 5:45 p.m. The whole day felt a bit rushed, between an early a.m. arrival at WDW, getting checked into our room and beginning to unpack, and now an early dinner. As often happens, there was a method to my ADR madness – the ever present possibility of an adults night out, which means that the girls had to stay ‘on schedule’ somewhat, so no late night excursions for them on this short trip. Turns out that we finally obtained enough information to set our schedule late last week, and we eventually stayed in after dinner this night. I had called WDW dining a few days before, and there were no later ADR’s available at FF for this night. Nothing until after 8:00 p.m. They were all booked up.

We arrived at 5:40 p.m., and checked in at the podium. The place was empty, but we were told to wait for just a minute. Maybe stood there for 1 or 2 minutes, then we were shown to our table, which was all the way in the back. Guess they wanted us out of the way or something. By our best guess, we were the 6th table seated that early. My bewilderment from previous reviews is sustained, where I find it strange that even with an ADR, and a relatively empty restaurant, we usually wait to be seated. But as always, it’s no biggie. We were seated against the back wall of the restaurant, 5 of us at a table for 6, which I appreciated after our ‘too tiny table’ at Il Mulino a few nights before.

Our server was Martha, and we had good service for the entire evening. I don’t recall if she went over the specials of the day, but I had pretty much made up my mind beforehand, which is probably why I can’t recall any specials. Also contributing to that memory lapse would be my 2 (or was it 3) pre ‘leaving the room’ drinks I had before we arrived.

I ordered my pre-dinner drink here, one dirty martini, and others in our group followed suit with their own selection, then we went ahead and put in an order for the cheese plate and the calamari. The cheese plate was a requirement for me, because I had thus far this trip failed to find a cheese plate worthy of wearing the Globex Corporation stamp of approval. After the pitiful cheese plate at Bistro de Paris, I was overdue. I had heard great things about this calamari, but on 2 of our last 3 visits here, they were out. And I don’t know what has possessed me to suddenly try all of this cheese, but the trend started in 2007, and I haven’t shook the habit yet for 2008 (maybe they make a patch for those of us trying to quit??). Martha was good enough to let me keep the cheese menu at the table, so I could use it to reference the plate when it came out. Good show Martha! Just as I remembered it from our last visit here, the cheese plate was absolutely wonderful, and gets its own section below (note: portions of our show, not affecting the outcome, have been omitted for the sake of time and possibly to avoid too much utter (or should I say udder) boredom for the audience):

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Degustation of Flying Fish Artisanal Cheeses
Five Tasting Portions and Accompaniments:
Honey Comb, Raisins on the Vine, Spanish Membrillo $15.00


Ms. Appleby’s Cheshire – Cheshire’s flavor is unique because of the salt deposits where the cows graze and its loose crumbly texture comes from the curds being broken by hand. Aged 6 to 20 months this cheese has a sweet caramel-butter smell with notes of straw and bright acidity.
My take: The Appleby’s of Shrewsbury make a good cheese with good flavor, but the texture was too dry for my liking. It was almost like eating a great tasting candle wax.

St. Marcellin – this soft-ripened disk of sweet pasteurized cow’s milk has a rind-less crust and an unparalleled silky texture. Each disk is so creamy that it will not stand on its own so it is packed in its own terra cotta mold. Aged about one month, the flavor is comparable to a Brie de Meaux: mushroomy, truffly, and earthy with a delicate residual tang.
My take: Excellent soft cheese, very smooth, with a nice taste. I’d call it a brie, but I liked the taste of this much better. It was all I could do to obey the words of my tiny chef, and “Don’t just hork it down”.

Pecorino Toscana en Foglie Noce – a pressed sheep’s milk cheese from Tuscany. While aging, the wheels are wrapped in walnut leaves and rubbed daily with olive oil, imparting a tremendously satisfying flavor and a hint of black walnut.
My take: A bit dry textured also, but the flavor was okay. As I was reading the description, I kept waiting for that hint of black walnut. All I got was a hint of regular walnut. I felt like I was missing out on something special.

Queso de Murcia Al Vino – smooth goat’s milk cheese from Spain. This cheese is washed with the local red wine, thus giving it a red rind.
My take: A great cheese, despite that pesky distracting red rind. A nice creamy taste, and smooth texture. It tasted best with the Spanish Membrillo, whatever the heck that was.

Fourme d’ Ambert - one of France’s oldest cheeses. Flavor is savory and nutty and is more supple and dense than most blues. The pate is creamy with a lasting taste of wine.
My take: I am still scared of blue cheeses in general, because they look like something from outer space. I was reared in the Southern cuisine world where blue = mold, and mold = bad, unless it’s being used to make penicillin. This one, like the others I have tried recently, was excellent, especially when eaten with the raw honeycomb. Strong on the initial bite, it mellowed out nicely afterward. I couldn’t find the ‘lasting taste of wine’, or maybe I was looking for the wrong kind of wine. Who knows? But a very nice blue cheese, none the less. It was the best cheese on the plate.

This was a solid cheese plate, with nice variety, and easily the best plate on this trip. I like that the cheese plate changes here frequently, and I will definitely order it again on future visits.

The calamari was everything it has been hyped up to be. Best calamari of the trip, even better than the one we tried at Il Mulino a few night before. Lightly breaded, with mostly rings and just a few tentacles. The fragrant vegetables were a nice compliment to the calamari, but what made the dish for us was the Asian dipping sauce. Aside from the ginger, I didn’t distinguish many individual ingredients in it, but the sauce was beyond delicious, I’d even say addictive, and made the entire dish work. Every bit as amazing as I had heard, and will be ordered during our next visit.

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I like the following picture best though....

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Next: Part II
 
Review: Flying Fish (Part II of II)

But before dinner, how about some bread. It was good. Nothing too fancy here.

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Okay, enough bread. Now, on to the entrees. The adults ordered three different items:

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Salmon – a nice sized potion of salmon, cooked perfectly. The asparagus was good, though we noticed that many of the vegetables offered that night weren’t ‘the usual’ ones that were listed on the menu. No complaints from us, just noticing something different.

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Lamb Chops – I believe this was a special, which interested one member of our party, and they did not disappoint. Though I tend to avoid lamb and veal (being sanctimonious I guess), this got a very good review from the orderer. The two chops are very good sized, thick, and cooked perfectly as ordered.

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Potato Wrapped Red Snapper – :thumbsup2 This was my selection, and I am boring, because I just adore this dish. The creamy leak fondue I have no attachment to, but it goes nicely with the fish. The red wine butter sauce just calls to me every visit here. The potato wrapped snapper has crispy potato on the outside, and flaky snapper on the inside. It was a bit well cooked on the outside this time, darker than I remembered, but the red snapper inside was perfect. And just like last time, there was nothing left, not even a drop of sauce on the plate, when I finished.


The kids’ meals were the ‘Flying Fish’ of the day, which was a skewered piece of red snapper. This is one of the better kids’ meals we have found at WDW, and the quality isn’t compromised just because it is for children. A good value, as kids’ meals go. The serving shown in this picture was missing a few bites, because I wasn’t quick enough with the camera. These meals for the kids are bucking the recent trend at WDW for standardizing many children menus, and we appreciate the FF not taking the easy road, and just conforming to a limited, bland, albeit healthy, kids menu.

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We skipped dessert because a visit was promised to the candy store next door, for some take-back-to-the-room ice cream. We used the DDE card for this meal, but I don’t have a copy of the check. I do recall that the 18% gratuity was added to the bill, as the DDE policy was changed after we bought our card back in 2007.

Summary: A nice meal, in a great location. It is the one place our girls asked to dine this visit, and they’ve already asked if we can go again next time. Until we have a disastrous visit, which I don’t foresee coming anytime soon, it looks like it’s earned a spot as a keeper.
 
Love, love, love Flying Fish! Great review.

Oh yeah, and your review of that burger at the Fountain has prompted me to make a detour in that direction. ;) Especially since here in NC you can't get a burger cooked medium. :(
 
OH BOY! OH BOY!

I'm sitting here catching up on the DIS, wandering finally over to the food porn reviews, and behold "I heard they Shaved a Gorilla" review. AH YES.

Am now drinking a Rudy Wiest Riesling, eating sliced Dutch Leendammer, Swiss Lustnberser, Kilanee Cheddar cheese and settling in for a damn good read.

Thank You.:worship: :worship: AY CURUMBA
 

OMG....drooling here. That calamari and snapper, as you know are two of my faves at FF.:thumbsup2

Where's the pic of the dirty martini my friend??????;)

I've never gotten into the "cheese plate" thing. Maybe you & Brenda need to do some serious educating for me before next trip.:goodvibes
 
Ah cheese... I could eat it every day for dinner with some bread and be a perfectly happy little oybolshoi. ;)

Fabulous Fish review, Mr. Scorpio, and I'm not just saying that so that you'll buy me a football team. :rotfl2: The snapper looks delish and it's not even a dish I would order (I just nibble on the hubby's).

Thanks for posting ... looking forward to more as Globex takes over WDW one restaurant at a time! :thumbsup2
 
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OH BOY! OH BOY!

I'm sitting here catching up on the DIS, wandering finally over to the food porn reviews, and behold "I heard they Shaved a Gorilla" review. AH YES.

Am now drinking a Rudy Wiest Riesling, eating sliced Dutch Leendammer, Swiss Lustnberser, Kilanee Cheddar cheese and settling in for a damn good read.

Okay, its official. I now have cheese envy.....
And throw in a decent Riesling to boot, well, that's just downright cruel. :sick:

Enjoy your meal, and hopefully the reviews.:)
 
OMG....drooling here. That calamari and snapper, as you know are two of my faves at FF.:thumbsup2

Where's the pic of the dirty martini my friend??????;)

I've never gotten into the "cheese plate" thing. Maybe you & Brenda need to do some serious educating for me before next trip.:goodvibes

The snapper is excellent, but I believe the calamari may be even better. This was my first time with the calamari, but it won't be my last. That Asian dipping sauce is just addictive.

Picture of the dirty martini, uh, well, errr, I must have been given another glass with a hole in it.....
(..... and I had a few Grey Goose & tonics before heading over there, so my camera reaction time was probably too slow).

Thank you for the compliment, but I am so NOT the person to talk cheese with, so I must relinquish the floor to my esteemed colleague from Stinktown. 'I don't know cheese, but I know what I like'.
(Now if the topic becomes either hot chile peppers or tequila, I can definitely contribute to those discussions.... I may even be able to chair one of those commitees).
 
Enjoying your reviews.:goodvibes Yummy looking food with entertaining writing to boot.

FWIW - I have been to RFC several times both at DTD and here in MA and have never had a bad meal. Yes, it is loud, but that is actually a bonus when travelling with kids.:thumbsup2
 
Been wanting to try Flying Fish for a while; will have to show my sisters the pictures of the snapper, looks yummy. Great review.
 
Wish I had tried the Flying Fish now. The pictures and reviews look are mouth watering. Now I want to know what's in the Calamari Dipping Sauce, LOL.
 
Great Review of FF.

We also REALLY enjoyed this establishment.

Your cheese plate was COMPLETELY different from mine, so I am having cheese envy too!

Loved the comment about the inner chef and not "horking down" the food.:rotfl2: :lmao: :rotfl:

Great work! Keep it up!

Ms. H
 
Great Review of FF.

We also REALLY enjoyed this establishment.

Your cheese plate was COMPLETELY different from mine, so I am having cheese envy too!

Loved the comment about the inner chef and not "horking down" the food.:rotfl2: :lmao: :rotfl:

Great work! Keep it up!

Ms. H

Many thanks for the kind words. I have been enjoying your reviews as well.
I was envious of your cheese plate when I first saw it. Mine had the two dry (hard) cheeses which were just okay, but I thought yours looked better.

The 'inner chef' is my spinoff of 'little chef' from Ratatouille. Remy telling Emile to savor the food, and not just 'hork it down'. I can probably get by with my 'inner chef' talking to me, but if I said that I have a tiny rat advising me on things, people may think I am nuts (or nuttier than usual).
 
Robert P said:
I don’t recall if she went over the specials of the day, but I had pretty much made up my mind beforehand, which is probably why I can’t recall any specials. Also contributing to that memory lapse would be my 2 (or was it 3) pre ‘leaving the room’ drinks I had before we arrived.

Don't you just LOVE pre-dinner cocktails! :drinking1

Robert P said:
I ordered my pre-dinner drink here, one dirty martini, and others in our group followed suit with their own selection,

I LOVE dirty martinis....especially when they are made with tomolives....these delicious little green tomatoes pickled like olives.... :woohoo:

Robert P said:
then we went ahead and put in an order for the cheese plate and the calamari. The cheese plate was a requirement for me, because I had thus far this trip failed to find a cheese plate worthy of wearing the Globex Corporation stamp of approval. After the pitiful cheese plate at Bistro de Paris, I was overdue. I had heard great things about this calamari, but on 2 of our last 3 visits here, they were out. And I don’t know what has possessed me to suddenly try all of this cheese, but the trend started in 2007, and I haven’t shook the habit yet for 2008 (maybe they make a patch for those of us trying to quit??). Martha was good enough to let me keep the cheese menu at the table, so I could use it to reference the plate when it came out. Good show Martha! Just as I remembered it from our last visit here, the cheese plate was absolutely wonderful, and gets its own section below (note: portions of our show, not affecting the outcome, have been omitted for the sake of time and possibly to avoid too much utter (or should I say udder) boredom for the audience):

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Cheese plates are a prerequisite for us too! :banana: :banana:

As Ms. Heimlich already said...your cheese plate was very different from the K-Man and mine.... We happen to REALLY love hard crumbly cheeses.....wish we had yours. I will say though, I am SO glad to see that the cheese offerings really do change a LOT. Further more, we are also VERY disappointed in Bistro's cheese offerings .....

I am so glad you enjoyed the Fourme d’ Ambert. We actually keep that blue cheese in our house all the time, besides going well with the honey comb, it pairs REALLY well with jams...blueberry jam is our favorite.
 
Thanks for the great review & pics!

So glad to hear that FF continues to offer great meals! It's been over a year since we were there. But the great dishes we enjoyed, apparently are still great! I too would have to order the cheese plate, the calamari (the best anywhere IMO!) and that delicious potato wrapped snapper! Oh I think it's time to make my ADR for October.
 
Don't you just LOVE pre-dinner cocktails! :drinking1

I LOVE dirty martinis....especially when they are made with tomolives....these delicious little green tomatoes pickled like olives.... :woohoo:

Cheese plates are a prerequisite for us too! :banana: :banana:

As Ms. Heimlich already said...your cheese plate was very different from the K-Man and mine.... We happen to REALLY love hard crumbly cheeses.....wish we had yours. I will say though, I am SO glad to see that the cheese offerings really do change a LOT. Further more, we are also VERY disappointed in Bistro's cheese offerings .....

I am so glad you enjoyed the Fourme d’ Ambert. We actually keep that blue cheese in our house all the time, besides going well with the honey comb, it pairs REALLY well with jams...blueberry jam is our favorite.

Mr. Disney, you are a genius. You have just given me the perfect solution to my problem of having too many tomato plants, and not enough tomato eaters. I could (once again) pickle much of my green cherry and grape tomato crop, for such uses as dirty martinis. Wonderful idea.

Yes, I have become quite fond of my pre-dinner cocktails, but especially so on vacation. It must be more of a Northern thing, because I can hardly recall anyone doing that here in the South when I was growing up. I guess its 'learned behavior' , and my wife and assorted in-laws are starting to rub off on me.
Note: I am 'discouraged' for having copious amounts of pre-dinner cocktails (on any regular basis) when we are home, due to a particularly funny incident last year at my house (after many such cocktails), which I still haven't heard the end of. So I tend to live it up while I'm on vacation.

Here in the culturally deprived bucolic splendor of Carolina de Norte, a good cheese shop is hard to find, so I am still a novice in the wheys of the curd.:rotfl2: Still, the Fourme d’ Ambert was excellent. I have found that one, and Echo Mountain Blue Cheese, to be my favs so far. I would love to someday soon try a real Stilton, to see what all the fuss is about.
The blueberry jam sounds great. I would have to give it a try with either an Apricot jam, or a sweet pineapple chutney, as well.

Sadly I agree, Bistro's offering was a disappointment, especially from the land of fine cheese. An opportunity lost, for sure.

Keep up the great reviews Mr. D.

Robert P
 
Thanks for the great review & pics!

So glad to hear that FF continues to offer great meals! It's been over a year since we were there. But the great dishes we enjoyed, apparently are still great! I too would have to order the cheese plate, the calamari (the best anywhere IMO!) and that delicious potato wrapped snapper! Oh I think it's time to make my ADR for October.

I totally agree about the calamari. We have found none better, though Il Mulino's was quite nice.

We just finally made our October ADR for FF last week. And I think we may add dessert to the adventure next trip, and skip the candy shop visit afterwards.
 
Mr. Disney, you are a genius. You have just given me the perfect solution to my problem of having too many tomato plants, and not enough tomato eaters. I could (once again) pickle much of my green cherry and grape tomato crop, for such uses as dirty martinis. Wonderful idea.

Yes, I have become quite fond of my pre-dinner cocktails, but especially so on vacation. It must be more of a Northern thing, because I can hardly recall anyone doing that here in the South when I was growing up. I guess its 'learned behavior' , and my wife and assorted in-laws are starting to rub off on me.
Note: I am 'discouraged' for having copious amounts of pre-dinner cocktails (on any regular basis) when we are home, due to a particularly funny incident last year at my house (after many such cocktails), which I still haven't heard the end of. So I tend to live it up while I'm on vacation.

Here in the culturally deprived bucolic splendor of Carolina de Norte, a good cheese shop is hard to find, so I am still a novice in the wheys of the curd.:rotfl2: Still, the Fourme d’ Ambert was excellent. I have found that one, and Echo Mountain Blue Cheese, to be my favs so far. I would love to someday soon try a real Stilton, to see what all the fuss is about.
The blueberry jam sounds great. I would have to give it a try with either an Apricot jam, or a sweet pineapple chutney, as well.

Sadly I agree, Bistro's offering was a disappointment, especially from the land of fine cheese. An opportunity lost, for sure.

Keep up the great reviews Mr. D.

Robert P

Maybe you need to move further South?! :confused3

Here in the Deep South we tend to enjoy our before dinner cocktails! Heck we even have Special Brunch Cocktails! ;)
 
Sorry Shovan, you are indeed much deeper South, but I currently reside (trapped) here in the Bible Belt. In NC, there is no happy hour, liquor sales are governed by the state ABC commission and can only be purchased through their state-run stores, and beer & wine purchases can only be made on Sundays after 12:00 p.m. (noon). No Sunday liquor purchases, at all.
(though brunch cocktails are permitted, you can't buy beer or wine at any store until after Noon time on Sundays).
We've even got a few 'dry' counties still, where alcohol isn't sold outside of the restaurants, if then.
As you can see, we're somewhat culturally repressed. Sigh.
 

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