I hate my March UY thanks DVC

[granmanh603]

I have a Dec. use year and our long trip is always end of Oct./beginning of Nov. Am I upset about the new rules? No. It is what it is. I knew going in that rules could be changed.

At the moment I have a 2BR SV booked at Boardwalk from 10/27 through 11/05. As it turns out I cannot go this year BUT the friends I travel with are still going. Mutual FL friends will be using the 2nd BR instead of me.

It's the first time I cannot go on a trip planned 11 mos. out (and hopefully the last time). At least I can look forward to going in Dec. for a long weekend!

Cyn

OK question....you booked the ressie and now you can pass it on to some one else....I thought if you booked it you had to be there and use the reservation? If I could not go in March 08(which I have booked) I could transfer it say to my children to use then? They are not on ressie now.

 

[figment795]

I don't like the new system either, but I don't think your situation is as bad as you think.

If your trip is the first week of December and you need to cancel, you would have to cancel pretty close to Nov 1 in order to avoid holding account. This year, for example, you would probably be looking at Nov 1-2 as a cancellation deadline. If you cancel on Oct 31, you bank - so for all practical purposes, you have 100% banking right up until your holding account deadline.

If you cancel a December ressie later in November (within 31 days of arrival), it doesn't matter when your banking deadlines are. Those points would be in holding account and points in holding cannot be banked at any time during your UY.

Unless I am completely misreading your explanations, you are talking about a very narrow window (1-3 days) where the new policy would have any effect on you at all. And you may actually benefit from the new program because you can bank 100% of your points two months later.

Thanks for your reply. I am more upset at the fact that DVC members did not get a vote in the change. I feel that older members should have a choice and new contracts should go with the new system.

 

[JimMIA]

Thanks for your reply. I am more upset at the fact that DVC members did not get a vote in the change. I feel that older members should have a choice and new contracts should go with the new system.

That's governed by the Public Offering Statement -- which, of course, we have all committed to memory -- and they are not required to submit changes in banking rules to the owners. As a matter of fact, I read in another thread that they could eliminate banking altogether without a vote. I'm not sure that's 100% accurate, but the fact is the only things we are guaranteed are those which are guaranteed in the POS...and that's darn few things.

None of that is unusual, BTW. Most timeshares have similar flexibility in their POSs.

However, to the degree DVC changes things in ways which the owners perceive as being detrimental, they potentially hurt their sales.

I referred a friend to DVC a few months ago, but I would not refer anyone now. With all the changes they've made recently (banking rules, transfer limitations, taking away some of the ability to book outside DVC the last 4 months of your UY, additional charges, etc), I wouldn't feel comfortable recommending DVC because I don't know what DVC will be a year from now.

 

[Figment2]

GranMan - My friends' names were already on the reservation. Even if I leave my name on the ressie, there would only be 5 in a 2BR. My friends are also DVC members and we alternate using our points for our Oct./Nov. trip. When we make the reservation we are only certain at that point that there will be three of us. As we get closer to the actual vacation, we've been known to add or subtract other individuals as needed.

I don't know the answer to your question except I don't see why you couldn't delete your name and change it to your children. I don't know of any rules to prevent that. Isn't that what spec renters do?


Cyn

 

[granmanh603]

GranMan - My friends' names were already on the reservation. Even if I leave my name on the ressie, there would only be 5 in a 2BR. My friends are also DVC members and we alternate using our points for our Oct./Nov. trip. When we make the reservation we are only certain at that point that there will be three of us. As we get closer to the actual vacation, we've been known to add or subtract other individuals as needed.

I don't know the answer to your question except I don't see why you couldn't delete your name and change it to your children. I don't know of any rules to prevent that. Isn't that what spec renters do?


Cyn

Thanks their names are not on now but one of my children is also a DVC member too so maybe I could do that. In the future I think I will put their names on the reservations too that way there will be no problem, just take them off when the time gets near and I wouldn't need it. That March reservations are the problem one. Thanks for the info. Carol

 

[CarolMN]

Thanks their names are not on now but one of my children is also a DVC member too so maybe I could do that. In the future I think I will put their names on the reservations too that way there will be no problem, just take them off when the time gets near and I wouldn't need it. That March reservations are the problem one. Thanks for the info. Carol

As the owner, you can change the names on a reservation you make to anyone you choose. No one has to be a DVC member and you do not have to staying with them. Just call MS.

If you can't go in March, but you someone else can, just call and ask the CM to delete your name and add the names of those who can go.

This is not a problem and is quite common (adding, changing, deleting names on a reservation).

Don't add people who aren't going "just in case". It can cause problems if you plan to add the Dining Plan or use Magical Express.

 

[Tamar]

Hey, we have a Dec UY because we thought we'd always travel in the spring. And now we never miss a F&W festival, so we have the "worst" UY for our travel habits. Still, I like the new banking rules because they're simpler, and give you more time to decide if you want to bank ANY of your points.

 

[granmanh603]

As the owner, you can change the names on a reservation you make to anyone you choose. No one has to be a DVC member and you do not have to staying with them. Just call MS.

If you can't go in March, but you someone else can, just call and ask the CM to delete your name and add the names of those who can go.

This is not a problem and is quite common (adding, changing, deleting names on a reservation).

Don't add people who aren't going "just in case". It can cause problems if you plan to add the Dining Plan or use Magical Express.

I have no plans for ever using the dining plan again and as for Magical Express that is not a problem since everyone does not have to use it. When we went last year there were 7 of us and only 3 used magical express ,the rest went and got the car....and all the luggage was deliver to the room for all 7 people, so if you are on reservation you do not have to all use the Magicl Express and we were all signed up for it.

 

[bobbiwoz]

I also have a March UY, and I am upset because we make a few mini trips a year, and never would have more than 25% (cumulative) to bank if our December trip needed to be cancelled. I did write the suggestion that since it didn't seem to be a HUGE matter to them regarding 100% banking deadline, why not make the only deadline the one that is 10 months into the UY. If they wanted to make it simplified, that would do it, too.

Bobbi

 

[DVC Mike]

I also have a March UY, and have no problem with the changes in the banking rules by DVC.

 

[nboicepardee]

When we purchased we didn't know we have a choice of UY. I did a lot of research (mostly on these boards), but for some reason that issue did not occur to me or I didn't see it as relevant. Don't really remember. Currently, we typically travel in January, but once my kids are in school we will probably travel in February or another break period. Perhaps when they are out of the house, we will always go in the fall. For us, our patterns will most likely change with each life change. Hopefully when we retire we will be there several times throughout the year!

 

[ScottNBecky]

We are with you as well. We have March UY for SSR and AKV.

 

[Robo-Daddy 3000]

I agree.......when we bought I wasn't sure how UY would affect our travel plans and it was not a topic of conversation with our guide. We never thought that it would really matter. In some cases, like yours, I can see that it would be a pain since your scheduled vacation time falls with in the 4 month window.

Brownie

Same here, When we bought we didn't think about which UY month would be ideal for us. We ended up with a March UY. Time will tell whether its good or bad but so far, I have no complaints.

 

[disneynutz]

I don't like the new system either, but I don't think your situation is as bad as you think.

If your trip is the first week of December and you need to cancel, you would have to cancel pretty close to Nov 1 in order to avoid holding account. This year, for example, you would probably be looking at Nov 1-2 as a cancellation deadline. If you cancel on Oct 31, you bank - so for all practical purposes, you have 100% banking right up until your holding account deadline.

If you cancel a December ressie later in November (within 31 days of arrival), it doesn't matter when your banking deadlines are. Those points would be in holding account and points in holding cannot be banked at any time during your UY.

Unless I am completely misreading your explanations, you are talking about a very narrow window (1-3 days) where the new policy would have any effect on you at all. And you may actually benefit from the new program because you can bank 100% of your points two months later.

The wife and I are still trying to get a better understanding on the best use year. Maybe Jim could post a simple list of preferred travel times and the suggested UY. ie: Travel NOV-APR - UY OCT.

 

[ColoradoDisneyFan]

We have a March use year and that worked perfect for us when we bought in 2002. Our kids were young and spring break was a great time to leave Colorado for Florida! But now our school has pushed spring break from mid-March to late March and we don't like the crowds then. Plus our kids play sports and that makes it hard to leave in the spring. So, we are now planning trips over New Year's since the kids have a long break into Jan. Bummer, cuz that really messes up the use year we thought we planned for so well!!!

 

[Dean]

Now that DVC has changed for 2008 the 120 day rule my use year stinks. Here is my problem DH and I love to go the 1st week of Dec. When we bought into DVC our guide pushed a March UY thinking we would like to go every July. Before with the old system if we canceled at 31 days prior to our Dec trip our points of 182 would be able to bank by Nov 31st at the 50% mark. Now I have to cancel at Oct 28th for 100% of my points or nothing. Thanks DVC this sucks thinking about selling. Any suggestions?

For this exact situation you are far better off under the new rules. Realize anything you cancel at under 31 days isn't bankable anyway and goes into a holding account. So for a first week of Dec (assume 1 Dec) and a March use year, you only have to cancel by 31 Oct (not 28 Oct). In this example, your cutoff dates are exactly the same and you actually lose nothing and gain a 50% banking option for 2 months. If you move closer to your use year this obviously changes and could swing to a negative for some situations.

 

[BWV Dreamin]

I love my March UY!!! Even with the banking changes, unless you are one to always travel during the holidays or winter, March UY is perfect. November and December are some of the busiest times. I have to navigate the bad weather in Jan & Feb as far as flying goes. So March is just perfect. You may find it works out better than you think in the long run.

 

[dznymom1]

I have a Dec UY which was what they assigned to us way back when. Our vacation habits have changed so much over they years that DEC is not that great for us, but I am sure things will change a few more times between now and 2042. Anyway, since 1992 I have never ever banked a single point, so it's irrelevant to me. I am, however, an expert in the art of borrowing