I gotta say... I was shocked.

I still had my shirt on there so I expect that you were also offering support to me.

I know it was hot, but come on... I would love to see your finish line pictures. :lmao:

I tried to acknowledge all the folks that yelled encouragement. Key here is I tried :) I hope I smiled at everyone. My wife says I am always smiling even though I didn't feel like it.

enjoy,
Duane
 
I have been reading this thread to Dh and he reminded me of something that happened to me at the Country Music Half Marathon last year.

I was running in my purple next to dh who was in white. We were at mile 11 of the half and going up a hill. I was really in a zone because Dh and I were trying to break the 2 hour mark and at that moment we were still on pace to do it.

Wearing purple at a major event and being toward the front of the pack means that all those purple cheer leaders are really excited to see you. They have been standing there waiting for the waves of purple and finally see a single purple jersey.

So as we run someone screams out "go Purple!" then ""Hey purple" and then "PURPLE!" DH nudges me and says "wave to him." I am abruptly jerked out of my zone and have to look around to see this bald kid under an umbrella (it wasn't raining) waving and jumping up and down at me. It took me a second or two to realize why he was so excited to see me. I waved and grimaced back to him. A smile was not possible at that moment.

I usually always acknowledge encouragement, even if it is just to raise my hand in a pseudo wave. But when I am in that zone, I don't hear or see the crowds around me.

I compare miles 14-18 to a death march. The ones still running are no longer talking or laughing. I imagine most everyone still running was in that zone, except me since I was running backwards or jumping up and down trying to get my girls to mile 18.
 
I'm hijacking this thread for a minute. I really don't feel like commenting on the issue at hand because everything has already been stated...and in a much more eloquent way than I would. BUT.....

I just have to say that Cecilia...YOU totally rock! I smile every time I read your posts about this past Goofy Marathon weekend. You were supportive of SO many people that weekend...your TNT team mates and your Wish team mates. You speak of the races and comraderie with such joy that it really makes me smile. Anyway...you really represent the best of both TNT and WiSH.

As far as TNT goes...I met some great TNT people during training over at the trail I run. They were nice to me and took the time to speak and run with me for a bit. That helped me on a miserable cold long run day. I also appreciate the TNT coach who cheered me on by name somewhere along the way during the marathon. It was much needed and surely appreciated.

With all this talk of cheering and attitudes I have to say that I deeply appreciate all the scream teamers who yelled their hearts out during both races. You guys made the races so much more enjoyable. I've never had anyone cheer for me at a race ever before since my family doesn't attend my races...and when I held up my bright WiSH fabric and waved it in front of any of the groups along the route I was treated to loud cheers and warm smiles. I never realized how good it could feel to have somebody actually cheering for ME personally. It really made the race so much more special. Thank you all from the bottom of my heart. :goodvibes .
 
I'm late as normal so just to chime in a little bit - when there is a lot of cheering you can't quite distinguish words, I was very confused for a lot of the race when I could hear what I thought was people on the other side of the water stops from me saying 'helen', they weren't they were saying water or powerade or something but the cadence was similar and I'd be smiling at these people who were totally not talking to me.

And I think that probably had a lot to do with why people ignored the OP - you see a purple shirt, you hear noise but you can't distinguish exactly what was said and so you think it's for a TNT runner nearby. I don't think anyone intentionally ignores anyone yelling for them or shouting their name. I wore a Tigger hat in the half and it would take a few seconds before I registered 'go tigger' was for me, in the half I could turn my head back and wave, by the full I couldn't move anything other than forward.... I'm still feeling guilty that I missed a little kid with their hand out in Epcot as I couldn't move sideways fast enough at that point to high five them - but I got the one about 2 feet further down the course.
 

I've never had anyone cheer for me at a race ever before since my family doesn't attend my races...and when I held up my bright WiSH fabric and waved it in front of any of the groups along the route I was treated to loud cheers and warm smiles. I never realized how good it could feel to have somebody actually cheering for ME personally. It really made the race so much more special. Thank you all from the bottom of my heart. :goodvibes .

Ditto, Amy :goodvibes. Well said, and nicely expressed.
 
Ali & Heidi - Thanks for your further explanations. ANd Heidi, I am so glad you noticed teh Mile 12 scream tream was tryign to scream for all in the half. We erally do try to help everyone. ANyway, during a race, if someone said something to me about WISH or DISboards and was not wweating lime, I'm sure I would have been confused too. When you're focused on getting through and you expect to get some people in lime saying stuff, you can be confused when something out of your focus happens. As fro teh corrals, I'm sure that was more confusion too. You know what would be great? If you joined in and trained with us this year. ext year, we'd be looking for you and know who you are. "Oh, they're TNT and know DIS, could it be Ali or Heidi?" That would be great!
 
Geez, what is far more irritating than the snubbery I experienced is the fact that a few of you have totally misconstrued my post and turned it into something it was not.

Forgive me for being a bit irritated. It's just that I specifically mentioned the snubbery I felt BEFORE and AFTER the races as being the moments that were a bit DISappointing. And yet I keep getting responses from people waxing poetic about the difficulty of a full marathon simply because I have never run one. I thought I made it very clear that I wasperfectly aware of the fact that "the distance does not come easily for many of us." I made it very clear that I understood why people were not smiling by the time they got to the AK. :rolleyes:

I also specifically made it a point to make clear that I WAS NOT LOOKING FOR GRATITUDE FOR CHEERING although some of you have tried to insinuate otherwise. Some of the comments here like "I am sorry you had such a horrible time"..... and other allusions to the notion that I ought not have been cheering if I was looking for gratitude... not necessary. Like Heidi, said... I was more looking to be recognized as :being in the know" about WiSH and who you were. Like my friend (who is much nicer than I am, obviously) said... "A smile would have been nice."

However, I appreciate those of you who took the time to be more logical and less accusatory and defensive and who offered reasonable explanations for why my friend and I experienced the WiSH team the way we did.

It always says volumes about a person's character when they can take something that might be percieved as criticism and respond to it without being defensive. Thanks to those of you who helped my friend and I gain a bit of a better perspective of WiSHers despite our personal experiences with them at Disney this month. It's always good to clear the air, isn't it? :goodvibes

And I had a WONDERFUL trip, thank you! ;)
 
I do WISH that you will be joining the WISH Team this year as we make ourselves ready for the journey of whatever events we have planned. I am certain that you will have a greater experience than you have ever thought possible.

Let me take the time also to thank you for your fundraising efforts. I know being a TNT member is a fine commitment in raising the amount of money that is raised for a wonderful cause.
 
Ali, I can't comment on a single thing about the condition of the runners before, during, or after the race, because 2009 will be my first WDW race. What I can comment on are a few other things.

First..the WISH team. They are, quite frankly, the most supportive and welcoming group of people I've never met (yet!). I started running less than one measley month ago, and already they have welcomed me into their fold with open arms, offering encouragement and warmth and accepting my offering of friendship. Please, if you haven't had a chance to do so, take some time and read through some of the older threads and you'll see what I mean.

Second...in response to:

Geez, what is far more irritating than the snubbery I experienced is the fact that a few of you have totally misconstrued my post and turned it into something it was not.

Forgive me for being a bit irritated. It's just that I specifically mentioned the snubbery I felt BEFORE and AFTER the races as being the moments that were a bit DISappointing. And yet I keep getting responses from people waxing poetic about the difficulty of a full marathon simply because I have never run one.

In your first post, you started by mentioning how you cheered at AK and how "each passing team member made me feel like there was no point..." Then, you said that "almost ALL of those people rudely ignored me or grumbled!" Mentioning the "before and after" times came much further along in your post; it sounded almost like an afterthought.

So, explaining why exactly they may have been "grumbling" or confused during the race are completely valid responses.

I thought I made it very clear that I was perfectly aware of the fact that "the distance does not come easily for many of us." I made it very clear that I understood why people were not smiling by the time they got to the AK. :rolleyes:

You actually didn't mention this until several posts later, and since many people on the DIS repsond to the first post in a thread before reading through all of the responses, they may have either overlooked this or, if they did read through, that may very well have remembered what you said in your first post.

I also specifically made it a point to make clear that I WAS NOT LOOKING FOR GRATITUDE FOR CHEERING

Again, looking at your first post, you did say that only one person thanked you, which would lead most people to believe that you wanted more people to have done so.

It always says volumes about a person's character when they can take something that might be percieved as criticism and respond to it without being defensive.

I didn't read any of the responses to you as being defensive, just trying to help you understand what happened out there. In fact, almost every poster who ran thanked you for your time and for your support of them, even if they never saw or heard you. I hope you take the time to get to know the folks here, and realize what a great group it is. And as a future runner, I'll add my thanks for supporting people out there, and my admiration for the fundraising you did with TNT.
 
I think it's time we stop trying to explain our actions as it appears that no matter what we say, Ali will always consider us to be snobs. I'm sorry for that as I have so found otherwise.

We've tried hard to explain our actions. We've expressed our gratitude for the cheering and support she and her friend showed on the course. There doesn't appear to be anything we can say to change her opinion of us so I say it's time to stop. Let's move on. Let this thread die.........

Peace, Ali. May you find a team that is worthy of your high regards.
 
I think it's time we stop trying to explain our actions as it appears that no matter what we say, Ali will always consider us to be snobs. I'm sorry for that as I have so found otherwise.

We've tried hard to explain our actions. We've expressed our gratitude for the cheering and support she and her friend showed on the course. There doesn't appear to be anything we can say to change her opinion of us so I say it's time to stop. Let's move on. Let this thread die.........

Peace, Ali. May you find a team that is worthy of your high regards.


I concur Martha it's to move on and let this die, it will only go ill if it continues.

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I have read every post since the beginning.

I did not run the race (s) but anxiously waited and read all of the wonderful reports from everyone. Sounded like the most fabulous time with the most awesome group of people...I WISH I could have been there!!!!!

I say let this discussion end....enough is enough. This is almost starting to sound like what I hear in my Kindergarten class at school.:eek: :eek: :eek:

have a great evening everyone, walk strong, love your families and be thankful for everyone and everything! We all are so blessed!! I am in awe of all of you who started the race, even if your time was not as fast as you had wanted or you had to stop...you're all athletes in my book. Congrats!!!:banana: :banana: :banana:

debbie in So Cal.:beach:
hoping to do the DL 1/2
 












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