How to shoot fireworks

If I can piggyback onto this thread...

My canon G9 has a fireworks setting and a tripod bush, but it doesn't have anywhere to fit a cable release of remote switch.

On my old film SLR, I would just set up on my tripod and use bulb setting and my cable release.

I suppose I could just use my two second delay, take lots of photose and hope some of them work.

How do you photograph fireworks without a cable release?

Andrew

That's exactly what I do when I use a point-and-shoot or if I don't have my cable realease with me when I'm using one of my DSLRs. Using the timer with fireworks can be tricky, because you really have to anticipate the blasts (2 seconds in advance). The key is to take LOTS of shots.

Often when I'm taking a long exposure of a landscape or a completely stationary subject I may not bother with a remote release. I just use the timer, even on my DSLR.
 
Hey everyone!! I was reading up yesterday after I posted on some good settings for fireworks pictures. As I was fooling around last night I discovered that, even in Manual mode, it was impossible to get the correct setting. I was able to set the ISO really low, but I wasn't able to get the shutter and aperture right. From what I read on various websites you should set you ISO low, aperture set for anywhere between f/8 to f/16, and the shutter for a few seconds. I wasn't about to the the aperture anywhere near f/8 and the longest shutter I could set was was 1 second. So after about an hour and a half of racking my brain, skimming my user manual, and trying different settings, I figured I would just have to try the fireworks setting and see how that goes.
 
Hey everyone!! I was reading up yesterday after I posted on some good settings for fireworks pictures. As I was fooling around last night I discovered that, even in Manual mode, it was impossible to get the correct setting. I was able to set the ISO really low, but I wasn't able to get the shutter and aperture right. From what I read on various websites you should set you ISO low,...

that's to keep the night sky dark, rich, and free of noise

...aperture set for anywhere between f/8 to f/16,...

Personally, I shoot fireworks at f/8 or f/11. That gives a "sweet spot" for maximum sharpness and clarity, and stopping down helps prevent the fireworks from becoming specular highlights and blowing out (losing color).

...and the shutter for a few seconds.

yes, a slow shutter speed ensures that you get those nice like light trails that are the hallmark of good fireworks photography. If, instead, you were to use a fast shutter speed you'd be freezing the sparks in mid air and you wouldn't have a nice full "bloom".

I wasn't about to the the aperture anywhere near f/8...

Why in the world would you not? You say that as if using anything near f/8 is bad? Why would you think that?

...and the longest shutter I could set was was 1 second.

Actually, the specs for your camera show that the shutter speed range is 1/3200 sec to 15 seconds. You're doing something wrong, or you're not understanding the display if 1 second is the slowest shutters speed you can set.

So after about an hour and a half of racking my brain, skimming my user manual, and trying different settings, I figured I would just have to try the fireworks setting and see how that goes.

What were you shooting that you're saying that the settings didn't work? Were you shooting fireworks or something else? You can't just take a combination of aperture, shutter speed and ISO and apply it to all settings. You can't just use these settings and try to photograph something other than fireworks and expect them to work.
 
I have the SX10 and I found I did better setting the camera to 'P' and bumping the ISO up to 800. Without a tripod this seemed to work better for me.
 

I have the SX10 and I found I did better setting the camera to 'P' and bumping the ISO up to 800. Without a tripod this seemed to work better for me.

If your reason for increasing the ISO is because you didn't have a tripod, what you're saying is that you wanted a shutter speed that was fast enough to hand-hold your camera. The problem with that train of thought is that such a shutter speed would be too fast for really good fireworks shots. You need a slow shutter speed to get full fireworks blooms. Rather than increasing the ISO you might have been better off opening up the aperture, because if everything important in the frame is at infinity (30ft and farther), depth-of-field is a non-issue.

Do you have any of those pictures that you took in "P" mode. I'd be interested in knowing whether the camera was able to assess the situation, compare it to an internal scene database, and, on its own, do what I said above (slow shutter and open up the aperture to compenstate for you increasing the ISO).
 
What were you shooting that you're saying that the settings didn't work? Were you shooting fireworks or something else? You can't just take a combination of aperture, shutter speed and ISO and apply it to all settings. You can't just use these settings and try to photograph something other than fireworks and expect them to work.

I wasn't actually trying to shoot something per say, I was trying to mess with the manual settings so I would know how to fix them and to set it up for optimum shooting. I will admit I am somewhat new to an advanced camera, but is it correct to say that if I am not in the right light (darkness before the fireworks) that the camera will not physically let me set the aperture and the shutter to where I want it to be?

Can I ask you when you like to shoot in for fireworks? I'm guessing this is going to be a more trial and error thing, but I like to know others opinions. :) thanks for the help!!

PS (previous poster))-I think that ISO 800 is a little "noisy" but I see how it would help without the tripod. Try using a tripod and I think you may get some better shots.
 
I wasn't actually trying to shoot something per say, I was trying to mess with the manual settings so I would know how to fix them and to set it up for optimum shooting. I will admit I am somewhat new to an advanced camera, but is it correct to say that if I am not in the right light (darkness before the fireworks) that the camera will not physically let me set the aperture and the shutter to where I want it to be?

No, that is not correct. In Manual mode (M) you can set the aperture, shutter speed, and ISO to whatever you want. You are in complete control of all those settings. That's the beauty of manual mode.

In Aperture Priority (Av) mode you can choose whatever aperture you want and the camera will decide what shutter speed is appropriate. Therefore, this is considered a partially automatic or a partially manual mode.

In Shutter Priority (Tv) mode you can shoose whatever shutter speed you want and the camera will decide what aperture is appropriate. Therefore, this is considered a partially automatic or a partially manual mode.


Can I ask you when you like to shoot in for fireworks? I'm guessing this is going to be a more trial and error thing, but I like to know others opinions. :) thanks for the help!!

You're right; it's trial and error. I Generally I keep ISO low, like around 50, 100, or 200 (no higher than 200). I set the focus on infinity. I zoom out for a wide angle. I use an aperture of around f/8 or f/11. I start out with a shutter speed of 2 or 3 seconds. I'll take a couple of shots with these settings, and if the exposure is off I simply adjust the shutter speed up or down.

PS (previous poster))-I think that ISO 800 is a little "noisy" but I see how it would help without the tripod. Try using a tripod and I think you may get some better shots.



With any picture you've got to decide what is most important for this shot. Is it depth of field? Is it freezing motion? Is it accentuating subject motion blur? For example, if I'm doing an outdoor portrait of a person, the most important thing for me is that I have shallow depth of field so the subjects "pops" in the image and so the background doesn't distract from the subject. Since aperture primarily affects depth of field, aperture is the primary variable. I set my aperture to the size that gives me precisely the amount of depth of field what I want and I leave it there. I adjust the ISO and shutter speed around the aperture. A second example: I'm photographing a moving child or pet and I want the subject to be clear and in focus, so in this case the most important variable is shutter speed to freeze motion. I set the shutter speed to a fast speed (1/500 sec) leave it there. I set the aperture and ISO around the shutter speed. Third example: I'm photographing a waterfall. Rather than freezing the action of the water (boring), I want to accentuate the motion of the water, so it appears as soft, silky streaks. In this case the most important variable is a slow shutter speed. So, I set the speed slow (1/8 sec) and leave it there. I adjust the aperture and ISO around the shutter speed.

When I'm shooting fireworks the most important thing is that I use a slow shutter speed (2 to 4 seconds) to get a nice, full bloom of light streaks. So, I'll first set the shutter speed that gives me the bloom that I want, steady the camera, then I'll set the aperture and ISO around that shutter speed. For fireworks it just doens't make sense to make ISO your primary variable and then set your aperture and shutter speed around the ISO setting. That's putting the cart before the horse.
 
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I'm thinking I'm just going to have to do a little more digging and practicing. I have until December, so I hope that by then I can be a little more comfortable with the settings.
 
What probably occurred is that you had auto focus on and the lens/camera didn't see anything to auto-focus on and the picture didn't take. With fireworks, you might have to manually focus the first shot or two.

Here's a different type of "fireworks" I shot last night, but the set-up is similar.

This was in manual (and manual focus), 18-25mm, f13, 10 secs

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After much reading and researching, and some help from my brother in law (the resident photographer) it has been discovered that if i want to set the shutter anywhere form 1 to 15 seconds I will have to be in night mode. I know it does not make any sense, I have no idea why you don't have full control in manual (which is the point of manual) but that's how the camera works. It is actually seen as a big design flaw for many users. Not as much of a big deal, I just needed to know I wasn't going crazy :rotfl:
 
Wow. Yeah, I'd say that's a big design flaw. I just did a quick Google search on this problem and found someone else saying the same thing. You can only go up to 15 seconds in Long Shutter Speed Mode, which doesn't allow you to select the aperture or ISO. Not sure if you could use exposure compensation in that mode.
 
Yeah I know, but like I said I totally thought I was loosing my mind. Then I thought maybe I had a setting on that was limiting it. My brother in law said that I can use firmware on the camera to "unlock" things allow me pretty much any shutter speed under the sun. Since the camera is somewhat new I told him I didn't want to get into that just yet, but it might be something I would consider in the future.
 
Can you please direct me to how to get a good shot of a waterfall and fireworks? I really want the soft focus look of a waterfall and the firework show where you can see the beautiful colorful streaks.

Okay, here is the thing, I am using regular digital camera, Canon Powershot A1000.

Thanks so much!
 
Can you please direct me to how to get a good shot of a waterfall and fireworks? I really want the soft focus look of a waterfall and the firework show where you can see the beautiful colorful streaks.

Okay, here is the thing, I am using regular digital camera, Canon Powershot A1000.

Thanks so much!

Fireworks are "easy". All you need is a tripod and to set a low ISO, high aperture, long exposure. Some "playing" around will the exposure time or aperture may be needed. Set focus to infinity if possible.

Smooth water is a bit trickier. See P&S's generally don't take filters and so you can't use a neutral density filter which limits the light that enters the lens. Because of this the "smooth water" effect is somewhat limited, especially in bright sunlight. The technique is pretty simply though, create the longest exposure you and use a tripod. So, low ISO, small aperture, long exposure.
 
I would suggest using your "Modes" on your camera.

For fireworks, use Fireworks mode, a tripod, and the two second timer on your camera (to avoid shake). You might have to fool around with camera placement and focal length in order to capture the shots as you want them.

For waterfalls, use Shutter Priority and arrow over to prolong the exposure time. This shot below was taken using my S3 IS with a 1 second exposure. You will also do best using a (small) tripod and two second timer.

Practice doing low light shots before you go. See this month's Assignment thread. Good luck.

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Camera Make: Canon

Camera Model: Canon PowerShot S3 IS

Shutter Priority (TV)

Flash Used: No

Focal Length: 9.3mm (35mm equivalent: 59mm)

CCD Width: 5.72mm

Exposure Time: 1.000 s (1 second)

Aperture: f/3.2

Whitebalance: Auto

Metering Mode: matrix
 
Usually individual fireworks trails and sparks are bright enough that you do not need high ISO.
 
Fireworks are "easy". All you need is a tripod and to set a low ISO, high aperture, long exposure. Some "playing" around will the exposure time or aperture may be needed. Set focus to infinity if possible.

Smooth water is a bit trickier. See P&S's generally don't take filters and so you can't use a neutral density filter which limits the light that enters the lens. Because of this the "smooth water" effect is somewhat limited, especially in bright sunlight. The technique is pretty simply though, create the longest exposure you and use a tripod. So, low ISO, small aperture, long exposure.

VVFF pretty much explained it.
Here's a little trick I've used with a point and shoot camera when I need a polarizing or darkening (ala neutral density). I hold my polarizing sunglasses right in front of the camera lens. You'll notice the effect of polarizing lenses on your sunglasses if slowly tilt your head to side while looking at the sky at a 90 degree angle to the sun. The effect looks is more dramatic when you also have puffy white clouds. Do that and you'll know what angle to hold the sunglasses in front of the camera to get the polarizing effect that you want. It can also work as a very weak ND filter. Though sunglasses aren't as neutral or optically clear as an expensive filter or lens element, it's good enough for use with a point and shoot.
 
For waterfalls, use Shutter Priority and arrow over to prolong the exposure time. This shot below was taken using my S3 IS with a 1 second exposure. You will also do best using a (small) tripod and two second timer.

The problem is that the A1000 doesn't have Shutter Priority mode. (This was one of the major complaints since all previous Powershots had both Av and Tv.) It does have Program AE mode, but it's not clear from the specs if this is shiftable. That is, once the camera picks the aperture/shutter speed setting, is it possible to change it? If so, take whatever it gives and shift to a long shutter speed (1/4-2+ seconds depending on the speed of the water and ambient light). If not (which I believe is the case), you'll probably be best to use the landscape mode (main dial), fireworks mode, or night scene mode (both Scene modes). The idea is to get the shutter speed down. You'll probably have to experiment some. Another "trick" is to shoot early or late when the light is naturally low. Also, getting the shutter speed down in bright light will be very tricky as the lens' minimum aperture is still quite fast (f/5.6).

Good luck, and as I said, go out and try some things to see what might work.
 
I made an attempt at some fireworks shots last week. I definitely have some things I'll do differently next time including my position and exposure length. I tried 30 sec, 25 and 20. Looking for your thoughts and suggestions...

20 sec, f18, ISO400

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20 sec, f20, ISO400

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25 sec, f13, ISO200

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