How to NOT hit the mental 'wall'

goofeygirl

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Have you done a marathon? A Goofy? Most of us have hit that mental 'wall' at some point. You change your music to something more upbeat, you try to mentally think of something other than where you are and what you have left to do.

What do you mentally do to prep?

Have you ever ran a marathon without hitting that 'wall'? How did you do it?

For those of you that have hit the 'wall'...did you get over it during the race? What did you do? How far along were you?
 
The only time I ever hit the wall came when I had not fueled and hydrated properly during the race. In my other races, I've been fine because I was able to keep my energy up. I also have the confidence to trust in my coaches and my training and know that while it will get progressively harder after mile 18-20, if I keep pushing, I'll be fine. I think those are two of the keys: fuel well and trust your training when it gets hard.
 
I've done the WDW marathon twice (second time was Goofy) and I haven't hit the wall...yet. Both times I went into it feeling pretty well-trained, which I think was the biggest thing for me. I had a game plan for fuel and hydration and stuck to it to the letter, so that definitely helped too.
 
I crashed and burned in wide world of sports. I hadn't eaten anything since the night before, so maybe that was a factor. I was just so hot... I ended up just following someone's fairy wings for close to 5 miles! I kept saying just follow her wings... This how I typically run when I'm uncomfortable-I tail someone.. The last two miles, once we came down Hollywood boulevard in Hollywood studios to the finish I was euphoric!
 

I have only run one full marathon, the disney 2011 one, and never hit a wall. I trained well and fueled and hydrated well too. Thank goodness I didn't hit a wall because my legs hurt so bad on the last mile through epcot.
 
Great question…

There are two areas that can shut a person down. One is the physiological wall and the other is more mental. Of these, the physiological wall is the true ‘wall’.

The wall is the point where one’s body simply shuts down and says NO MORE due to glycogen (sugar) depletion. In real simple terms, the body runs on fat and sugar during the run and the body can only store about 90 minutes of sugar for use on the run. The shut down occurs because the brain can only burn sugar as its fuel; therefore, once stores hit a certain level, the brain goes into self-preservation mode. You can prevent this from occurring by being properly hydrated and fueled before and during the race AND running in an aerobic mode commiserate with your level of training. Head out too fast, come into the day improperly nourished and you too can hit the miserable wall.

What most of us hit is the mental area where we let the brain convince the body to back off. Like the wall, it generally occurs somewhere after a couple hours of activity (though it can occur at mile 2 or never occur). For many, it occurs 2-3 miles past the longest training run. Generally, we are doing great well into a marathon and then a tweak is felt, hit an unexpected hill, a potty break is perceived…we stop, slow then have a tough time restarting.

A great example is a marathon runner running continuously through about mile 17. For what ever reason he stops for a short walk and then from there he is simply unable to string a complete mile together for the 3-4 miles of the race.

Another example is the runner who trained to a 21 mile long run and at mile 24 feels like he can go no further.

A final example is a run/walker who also include aid stations as walks. Somewhere around mile 16 they end a walk segment and look up to see the next aid station and simply walk into and through the station; basically doubling or so the walk break. The longer than normal walk sets the wheels in motion so the runner becomes a walker for the next 5 miles.

These mental breaks are all too common. I have suffered many of them – actually, all of them as these are from some of my 20+ marathons. You will see me talk of the mental toolbox that we develop through the training season. These are the little tricks and gimmicks we find that help get us through a tough training run. Simply try to log your feelings and thoughts during your long runs. By going back over a long run and thinking of the positive things that occurred you are building the toolbox up for race day.

Toolbox items can and will include things like a special go to song on the iPhone, trying to pace off of a runner 20 feet or so in front of you by tying an imaginary rubber band around the front runner, having a special gel (food) in you pack for that trouble spot, forcing yourself to run to the next landmark, streetlight or crack in the road, if caught in a walk, picking a spot to start a run from. There is also the mile-by-mile dedication to those who have influenced you… or possibly to those who tried to tell you how dumb your marathon adventure was.

Often a few seconds of swim motion of the arms to kill stress along with a couple deep cleansing breaths are enough to snap you out of a mid race funk. I find that I run my better miles when I can clear my mind and simply run in a ‘zone’. I once hit that zone in the TTC area and then ran through the MK and almost to DAK before I realized where I was. It was my best Disney marathon, but it did take a couple days before I could recall the events in the MK area.

Generally these mental obstacles will prevent the physiological wall from occurring. Remember, the marathon is really 90% mental if you run well hydrated and fueled and run within a pace supported by your training.

Hope this helps
 
Thanks! This is what I need to do. The wall I hit was just at mile 21. I remember coming up that ramp...and thinking Hollywood studios was just around the corner and all I saw was more highway..and I guess that did it for me!
Somewhere after that I stopped and stretched and changed the music to Rhianna and kept playing that song again and again.
My head was down and I kept going...and I actually went faster at this time because I really really really wanted it to be over.
When Epcot came around, the one area I always imaged myself to enjoy (I envisioned a happy face, waving and stopping somewhere to get a frozen drink, a soda or even a water...just for the sake of doing it) and just being happy during that last mile...well that never happened. My head was still down and I could hear the cheers from the guests and cast members but all I wanted to do was to cross that finish line.
I must have looked utterly dreadful!

But coach you mentioned something about dedicated a mile to people and I had forgotten about that. I recall doing a half and wearing 13 colored rubber bracelets on my arms. Each mile was dedicated to someone, no matter if they were deceased or still alive. The more miles I went , the higher the mile, the closer to dedication was....so the last mile I dedicated to my mother (who is no longer here) to my mother.
I forgot what a great idea that is. The first miles can be anyone but the miles towards the end dedicate them to someone very close to your heart...because you are doing it for them.

The training and the fuel....I did have a small coffee in the am (I always do) and my normal muffin and banana and that was it. This is what I eat for a half marathon and I did the same for the full...so clearly that was not working.

Physically I was fine...yes sore....but after my shower in my room and a nap I felt good. In fact I went to the MK and even went on most rides and had no problems getting into or out of anything. To be frank, I just wanted to wear that Goofy medal!

So keeping the physical body in shape and the mental part of me in shape, I agree is equally important...okay maybe physical is more important....but without your mind keeping you going...that wall is misery.
 
Thanks! This is what I need to do. The wall I hit was just at mile 21. I remember coming up that ramp...and thinking Hollywood studios was just around the corner and all I saw was more highway..and I guess that did it for me!

I know that spot well! My Disney Marathon experience was a bit different, although it was all related to hydrating. A very warm (upper 70's at the start) Marathon with warning to stay hydrated, I'm a slow runner so after I left AK we actually saw a closed first aid station (I finished in about 6 hours- no where near the end but always worried about the sweepers.) Right about that hill and highway they were setting up tables and I was so excited thinking it was a "new" drink station (just before the turn around to go to DHS) but the cups were full of M&M's, the first time (and only time if I'm honest) I was disappointed to see M&M's in my life. My mouth was so dry if I hadn't remembered I had a mini bottle of water in my waist pack I wouldn't have been able to swallow the chocolate. After that hill and the chocolate it was all "down hill" thru DHS, Boardwalk and Epcot. Knowing I'd made it past the last "sweep point" and having the chocolate there may have saved my run.
 
I know that spot well! My Disney Marathon experience was a bit different, although it was all related to hydrating. A very warm (upper 70's at the start) Marathon with warning to stay hydrated, I'm a slow runner so after I left AK we actually saw a closed first aid station (I finished in about 6 hours- no where near the end but always worried about the sweepers.) Right about that hill and highway they were setting up tables and I was so excited thinking it was a "new" drink station (just before the turn around to go to DHS) but the cups were full of M&M's, the first time (and only time if I'm honest) I was disappointed to see M&M's in my life. My mouth was so dry if I hadn't remembered I had a mini bottle of water in my waist pack I wouldn't have been able to swallow the chocolate. After that hill and the chocolate it was all "down hill" thru DHS, Boardwalk and Epcot. Knowing I'd made it past the last "sweep point" and having the chocolate there may have saved my run.

I am guessing --- 2007. I ran the race when the mile 23 hand up was Sprees. I also hate the chocolate hand ups that late in the race as it just sticks in my throat.
 
There is also the mile-by-mile dedication to those who have influenced you… or possibly to those who tried to tell you how dumb your marathon adventure was.

Often a few seconds of swim motion of the arms to kill stress along with a couple deep cleansing breaths are enough to snap you out of a mid race funk.

I love the dedication idea. No one has been negative to me (though to be honest I'm doing the 10 mile and then the Half in January, with no plans for a marathon distance) except for worrying about my knees, but I can see having some thoughts like that.



I recall doing a half and wearing 13 colored rubber bracelets on my arms. Each mile was dedicated to someone, no matter if they were deceased or still alive. The more miles I went , the higher the mile, the closer to dedication was....so the last mile I dedicated to my mother (who is no longer here) to my mother.

You made me cry! I'm not sure if I can handle wearing bracelets like that, but it's worth trying out, because that's a neat idea.
 
lol.

No crying!

It was actually my friends idea. It was for a race we did this past spring and one of those miles was dedicated to the victims of the Boston Marathon.

Perhaps for the full I can still wear 13 bracelets only dedicate two miles to each person...or every other mile...I really don't want to wear 26 colored bracelets on my arms!


I was reading also about them serving up M&M's? Well I do love chocolate but I don't think in a marathon race.

I was in one half marathon where they served up beer midway...and yes I did have some and it did not effect me...but it was really nice. Then before we entered this stadium to cross the finish line, they served pizza so we ate pizza crossing the finish line. That was different.
 
I'm not entirely sure what "the wall" feels like. I haven't hit a walk so hard that coming off a walk break was impossible. But I do know how difficult it can get to run again after a walk break. I kinda just grit my teeth and force myself to do it. I know the difference between "this is normal" pain and "this is wrong!" pain. Lately I've been chanting "I am the master of my own destiny" for some reason when things go south. It just came into my head when I started seriously thinking about cutting my 14 mile run at 13 for no reason other than that I was completely spent. Whether you believe it or not, it did help put some control of the situation back in my hands. Destiny masters make the running happen. :P

During the 2013 Donald, I was actually in mental despair before the race even started because my longest run to that point was 11 miles. Adding 2 miles isn't exactly a cakewalk for a slowbie. My brain was screaming "I can't do this!" so loud I almost said it out loud. Training up to at least the race distance helped tremendously for Disneyland.

My sister does the dedication thing. I joke with her saying she should dedicate her slowest mile to my honor. ;)
 
I did a 3.5 mile run today with my run club and I think I came closer to hitting a wall today in that little short run than I ever did running the Disney full marathon in January this year.As much as people say it was a hot day for the marathon,I just didn't feel it.I guess doing runs like the one today in Totally Brutal Humidity in Miami just prepares you to feel like you can go forever when you go in cooler less humid weather in January.Today for example I knew there was no way I could go 5 miles,it wasn't even that hot,it was overcast,upper 80's but the humidity was off the charts.
 
I did a 3.5 mile run today with my run club and I came closer to hitting a wall today in that little short run than I ever did running the Disney full marathon in January this year.As much as people say it was a hot day for the marathon,I just didn't feel it.I guess doing runs like the one today in Totally Brutal Humidity in Miami just prepares you to feel like you can go forever when you go in cooler less humid weather in January.Today for example I knew there was no way I could go 5 miles,it wasn't even that hot,it was overcast,upper 80's but the humidity was off the charts.
 
I did a 3.5 mile run today with my run club and I think I came closer to hitting a wall today in that little short run than I ever did running the Disney full marathon in January this year..

I haven't run an official race over a 5k yet, but my longest training run so far was 13.1 miles 2 weeks ago. I tend to hit a wall on my short 3-6 mile runs, but I've never felt bad on the long ones. I think it's because I am more prepared on the long runs and I am mentally psyched to complete each one. The shorter runs just seem like a chore :crazy2:
 
Oh yeah you can hit a wall on any distance. As laughable as it is, I also hit a wall right at the beginning of a 5k race...I mean it was beginning of it! I was thinking...I cannot do this....the reason? I was running late...found a parking space for my car...ran to the start line but didn't have time to use the pop...so I run up to the start line and the gun goes off and I am thinking..wait? I have to use the pop!....I really thought I had to use it! I mean I was thinking I cannot do 3.1 miles after just drinking a coffee on the way up to this race and not use a pop! It occupied my mind for that first mile...
Then it went away. Suddenly I didn't have to use the pop...so the remaining 2.1 miles were fine...after I cross the finish line I didn't use the pop!!!! How nuts is that??? Talk about mind games on yourself.
 
I am guessing --- 2007. I ran the race when the mile 23 hand up was Sprees. I also hate the chocolate hand ups that late in the race as it just sticks in my throat.

sure was 2007, it was a very warm day.
 
I hit the wall yesterday. I was very well trained and this was my 14th marathon. It was hot (90 at the finish), dry, hilly, at a high elevation (6000') with very little shade- and the mosquitoes were awful- I have over 50 bites! I was doing good until mile 20 and my body shut down. The last six miles averaged almost 4 minutes slower than the rest. I finished and promptly blacked out. I was drinking much more than normal during the race, so I'm not sure what I could've done other than doing the whole thing slower. It was very frustrating, but I finished!
 
I am not doing the WDW Marathon this year. But I have done a couple of marathons in the past. And more halves than I can count so yeah the wall has almost sadly become an old friend of mine.

Most recent encounter was at Dumbo. In an unusual reverse of what normally happens with me where its usually both physical and mental. This time it was almost entirely physical. I hit mile 10, got past the point of sweeping, and the leg cramps hit like no tomorrow. No crying this time which was unusual.

I'm the type you can tell I'm hitting the wall as soon as it starts to happen. Because I usually will look upset, about ready to cry, and I know what's happening because I'll usually start questioning everything under the damn sun.

The bright side of the fact people can tell I'm hitting the wall is usually I'll draw the attention of either other runners or spectators and end up with some company for a while. As someone who runs alone I've discovered a little company can go a long way in getting over the miserableness of the wall. One of my best memories was doing San Francisco Marathon 2011 hit the wall at Mile 23 right as I was passing a cheer group. Had one of them separate off from the cheer group and actually walk with me for the next half mile or so (I can't remember where my Mom was on the course at the time as a spectator).

In general I've learned to just ride out the mental portion since that tends to fade after a while for me. Usually the next mile marker does wonders for me mentally and is enough to get over a good portion of the wall. The physical portion is a different aspect all together but mile markers and the mental portion of the wall are great. There's only one time that didn't work but that's because I was having a really, really bad race that day (Disneyland Half 2012, sidelined for almost three weeks because of a foot infection from getting a mole removed, between that, the heat, and the fact my arches were first starting to show they were a problem I hit the wall twice in the space of two miles (miles 6 and 8)).
 
I know what you mean about some expression on your face when you hit that wall. I know because no photographers took my photo anymore! I must have looked so bloody miserable!

I am glad I got as far as 21...that may have been because Disney made such a big deal about the surprise at mile 20 that that kept me going. I guess after that...it was just about finishing...I don't know if it was that or that when I got up that ramp to the mile 21 sign I thought DHS was right around the corner and it wasn't...perhaps that is what happened. Suddenly it became a chore for me to finish. I was over it and my head was down...music blasting and just pushing...it was miserable...but I did finish.

I don't want to experience that again...I truly want to enjoy that finish! I want to be the guy I saw dressed up in a Tinkerbell outfit from the year before (I did the half that year only)...and I was standing by that entrance to Epcot (near Yacht club area) and he was waving his wand and laughing and just enjoying the crowds...he made the crowds laugh and made them cheer louder...I think of him...I want to be that person!!!
 



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