How to handle crazies?

[branv]

So, I'm sitting here reading this thread and I have come to the conclusion that if I were to say the sky is blue about 40% of the posters would agree, another 40% would disagree and 20% would try to tell me I have no clue what blue actually is, let alone how it pertains to the sky.

But 100% of them would insist it's everyone else who doesn't know how to behave

 

[2Tiggies]

and I've never "sauntered" in my life.

But 100% of them would insist it's everyone else who doesn't know how to behave

Yep! Such is the human nature - we all like to think that although we may make mistakes, we are never wrong ....

 

[reiella]

I think why these topics are coming up more is just the season (summer, hot and busy). Something I think I should add. My intent is not to prove one view as right or wrong. I do want to help people understand other points of view. Especially if the difference comes to just an instrinsic difference of opinions (for instance in this thread, the difference is when a seat/area is considered in use/occupied).

 

[luvthemouse71]

I have learned...NEVER argue with Crazy

Yes, we nurses know better.The other rule is,"you can't fix stupid".

 

[PIRATEGIRL007]

If there's only one or two of you, don't bring a lot of stuff that you can't keep on your body. Sheesh.

If you swim with your towel it tends to defeat the purpose of having it to dry off.


I'm afraid the Cabana stealers have shown up in this thread.

 

[brunette8706]

Leave it in a locker if you are concerned about it. Frankly, it's just rude to leave your stuff unattended and expect it to still be there when you saunter back.

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We always, ALWAYS keep towels and flipflops by the side of our chairs and on them. Same when we go to the beach. Plain and simple it means these chairs are taken. Now, I dont' agree with putting towels on a chair at a pool and coming back hours later, that's rude. But I'm not going to rent a locker to put my stuff in. Most people just put their NON-valuables on their chairs.

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

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But I'm not going to rent a locker to put my stuff in.

Um, then prepare for your stuff to be moved/taken.

 

[PlainJane]

If you swim with your towel it tends to defeat the purpose of having it to dry off.

You could, again, keep the towel in the locker where it will remain dry.

I'm afraid the Cabana stealers have shown up in this thread.

I've never "stolen" a cabana or anyone else's perceived saved seat, and I don't appreciate the implication. I don't moves other's things, so ultimately I don't find either party in the original post in the right.

 

[Suellen]

Cabana Stealers eh? But it isn't YOURS! It is public property. If you PAID for the Cabana for the day then you have an argument.

If you put your stuff there and disappeared until lunch time ~ and someone dragged a chair under it and used the table?

I guess I still don't understand what labels these people "crazy" or "insane"

I should also mention that I wouldn't sit someplace that had stuff at or move it either. So no ~ I am not a "cabana stealer" but I still dispute the term.

 

[brunette8706]

Um, then prepare for your stuff to be moved/taken.

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UM, never, EVER had anything stolen at a water park in my life. When we go to BB there are hundreds of chairs on the beach, and they most, if not all have towels and personal items on them. I have never heard of putting NON-VALUABLES in a locker. After my swim I want a chair to come back to, hense with MY stuff in them. This whole argument is ludicrous.

To the OP the people that intruded in your space were quite rude and obnoxious, especially when there were other seats around. For someone to yell like that is unacceptable.

 

[PIRATEGIRL007]

You could, again, keep the towel in the locker where it will remain dry.



I've never "stolen" a cabana or anyone else's perceived saved seat, and I don't appreciate the implication. I don't moves other's things, so ultimately I don't find either party in the original post in the right.

I personally don't encourage people to place wet or damp items in an enclosed space with no circulation but whatever you want to do with your own items is your business. I will not nor will I encourage my children to use items in a way that may cause harm or damage. Even if it is a rented locker I teach my children to treat others property (including rented items and hotel rooms) as they would thier own.

I don't remember saying your name in my original post. Yep I checked it isn't there. Unusual you feel the need to defend something not directed at you, what is it they say about a guilty conscious?

 

[2Tiggies]

This has been an interesting discussion and it's been great chatting with you all. However I sense a padlock symbol arriving at the end of this very soon. When The DIS Discussion turns into The DIS Argument, it is usually a sign ...

 

[marie1203]

I would NEVER EVER EVER walk away from that. By doing so, you just empower them to continue this behavior. Nope, not me....they would have been given one verbal warning, them i would home thrown them out one by one, and if they got mad and got management involved, GREAT. NEVER back down to people like that, most of them are paper tough guys anyway and if you get in their face, they will whimper and crawl away!!! This new passive "PC" society we are trying to build is NOT working!!!!

I just know where to pick my battles and ending in jail for harassment is not my idea of a good vacation. She did not rent the place so even in the manager where to get involve he/she would of told them to share or move her stuff. And if you started to throw them then the manager will definitely have you leave the park. They are just not worth my time.

 

[PlainJane]

I personally don't encourage people to place wet or damp items in an enclosed space with no circulation but whatever you want to do with your own items is your business. I will not nor will I encourage my children to use items in a way that may cause harm or damage. Even if it is a rented locker I teach my children to treat others property (including rented items and hotel rooms) as they would thier own.

I don't remember saying your name in my original post. Yep I checked it isn't there. Unusual you feel the need to defend something not directed at you, what is it they say about a guilty conscious?

Then who were you referring to as "cabana stealers?"

I see you are now unequivocally accusing me of something.

 

[Belle & Ariel]

I am just curious as to why some of you all think you deserve a chair someone else has already taken when there are many empty ones if you just walk a minute or two. TL has cms that add chairs on days it gets crowded. Silly me, I thought they were for latecomers. Never occurred to me it was for people who got there early but a latecomer thought they were more entitled to the chair and took it.


So, please answer my questions:

Why do you deserve someone else's chair?
Wouldn't good manners lead you to walk to find an empty chair?

 

[Poohchum]

Thanks for your ideas and comments. I have developed a plan for this form of harrassment. Hopefully, it will not be necessary.

1. Some people have a view of water park space that is unique. I consider it rude. This discussion has not changed my opinion that when there is a lot of space and a lot of chairs, one shouldn't even consider moving into an area that is already taken.
2. Thankfully, most people are aware of the social norm, so I should continue to visit the wonderful water parks. The social norm is a good one- it shouldn't be challenged. People are more peaceful and friendly when we give each other space and respect.
3. A minority explores challenging the social norm, but tries to do it in a fair way.
4. A tiny minority (no one in this dscussion) will be rude enough to do it in an offensive way- yelling, not open to try to work out things. Run -do not walk- from these people because if they are acting that crazy, they will, at best, be unpleasant to be around. At worse, they are dangerous.

Thanks again!

 

[larryz]

If there's only one or two of you, don't bring a lot of stuff that you can't keep on your body. Sheesh.

You swim with your suntan lotion, shoes, shirt and towel much?

There's a reason it's called "being reasonable."

The usurpers were clearly being unreasonable (besides uncultured and barbaric).

 

[larryz]

Who made those rules? Where are they written down? Sure, it's become "common", but in some parts of the world it's common to do all sorts of things that other parts of the world think are wrong.

Well, what country do you think WDW's in?

For me, personally -- I have no problem with people leaving stuff to stake out a parade or fireworks seating area. Drop your blankets or towels, leave someone there to watch the valuables, and I consider that to be "your" spot -- no matter how long you sit there or how many people show up at the last moment.

That's the key, and I agree 1000 percent -- if you really want to keep a spot, keep somebody in it to watch the stuff. And, based on some of these posts, make sure they're large, hairy, have anger management issues, and look very mean and ugly -- maybe even hungry. Otherwise, you'll have to leave in order to avoid upsetting the bullies...

 

[larryz]

I guess I still don't understand what labels these people "crazy" or "insane"

I should also mention that I wouldn't sit someplace that had stuff at or move it either. So no ~ I am not a "cabana stealer" but I still dispute the term.

A normal reaction when confronted about having moved somebody's stuff out of a chair -- "Oh, I'm sorry -- was that your stuff? I thought someone had abandoned it. I'll be happy to move to one of the other open places here on the beach."

A "crazy" reaction -- "Are you talkin' to ME???"

 

[Suellen]

But it doesn't sound like they moved their stuff. It sounds like they dragged chairs in.

I'll re-read the first post... but I didn't see anything about stuff moving.