How does my rough draft touring plan look 1st attempt

[NavyDad01]

BTMRR will be closed

 

[NavyDad01]

Disney Land 7:30am

Runner Gets FP for Indy
Jungle Cruise
Pirates of the Caribbean
On our way to Toon town grab FP for Splash Mountain
Once we get to TT grap FP for Roger Rabbit
Mickeys House
Minnie House
Gadgets Go Coaster
Chip N Dale Tree House
Grab FP for space mountain
Matterhorn
Haunted Mansion

It should be around 11am at this time grab lunch and eat, Grap one more FP for space mountain before leaving at 12.

 

[sonnyjane]

Disney Land 7:30am

Runner Gets FP for Indy
Jungle Cruise
Pirates of the Caribbean
On our way to Toon town grab FP for Splash Mountain
Once we get to TT grap FP for Roger Rabbit
Mickeys House
Minnie House
Gadgets Go Coaster
Chip N Dale Tree House
Grab FP for space mountain
Matterhorn
Haunted Mansion

It should be around 11am at this time grab lunch and eat, Grap one more FP for space mountain before leaving at 12.

The only thing I can correct is that Splash Mountain is at the end of a dead end in Critter Country, so it's not "on the way to Toon Town". The layout goes Pirates of the Caribbean, Haunted Mansion, then Splash Mountain down the hill, so you might want to just tack Haunted Mansion on after Pirates, then send a runner to get the Splash FP's, then head to Toon Town to be efficient. If you haven't already, check out the online park maps to get a lay of the land.

 

[NavyDad01]

The only thing I can correct is that Splash Mountain is at the end of a dead end in Critter Country, so it's not "on the way to Toon Town". The layout goes Pirates of the Caribbean, Haunted Mansion, then Splash Mountain down the hill, so you might want to just tack Haunted Mansion on after Pirates, then send a runner to get the Splash FP's, then head to Toon Town to be efficient. If you haven't already, check out the online park maps to get a lay of the land.

Thanks guys you guys are making this really easy for me so I have another question. How long would you think it would take a Teen 18years old to get from Paradise pier to Fast pass machine for space mountain, and back to paradise pier.

 

[sonnyjane]

Thanks guys you guys are making this really easy for me so I have another question. How long would you think it would take a Teen 18years old to get from Paradise pier to Fast pass machine for space mountain, and back to paradise pier.

That's a tough one. I do a lot of solo-park-hopping and from the back of PP to the front of DCA is probably 10-15 minutes if you're walking briskly, to get into DL another 5 (assuming very short lines at the front), then to Space Mountain would be 8-10 minutes, then back again, but on a crowded day it would be a lot more because you'd be making your way through people. Looks like an hour round-trip if you're really moving and there's no delays. I could probably do it faster, but I know exactly where I'm going and am a really fast walker.

ETA: so I just realized I gave times from Paradise Point inside of DCA. If you're talking about Paradise Pier hotel that's something completely different. Which did you mean? If you mean the hotel, you can't send someone to get FP's until everyone in your group has been into one of the parks at least once that day.

 

[Hound 109]

Which day will you be doing your MM? (Since you have 3 days...or are you staying onsite?)

Definitely start each day at DL & Park Hop each day.

Other comments below:

Disney Land 7:30am

- Runner Gets FP for Indy
- Jungle Cruise (don't waste valuable early morning time on JC....it can be ridden with short lines later & is easy to get to from other lands.
- Pirates of the Caribbean Fast loader....ride it later.
On our way to Toon town grab FP for Splash Mountain
Once we get to TT grap FP for Roger Rabbit
Mickeys House
Minnie House
Gadgets Go Coaster
Chip N Dale Tree House
Grab FP for space mountain
Matterhorn Should be ridden the first 15 min. of any given day (MM or non MM)
Haunted Mansion

It should be around 11am at this time grab lunch and eat, Grap one more FP for space mountain before leaving at 12.

I'd start over.

Tell us specifically which days you'll be in DLR. Plan on park hopping each day. Have a first 2 hours plan for DL each day (since you're a planner).

Tell us which big rides you want to ride (or don't want to ride) so we don't include them in your plan.

Understand HG's FP threads backwards & forwards....THEY provide the basic strategies, & in some cases a basic plan.....then plug in your RideMax results around them.

Understand what rides are slow loaders (like in FantasyLand) & need to be ridden early. Which ones are time eaters & should be ridden later. & which ones are fast loaders (like Pirates) & can be ridden later.

KNOW THESE FP THREADS:

"Getting the Most Out of FastPass During High Season" www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=885132

"FastPass for Dummies and Smarties - A Photographic Explanation" www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1186052

"Which Fast Pass First?" www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1107718 (see my post #4 in that thread)

"Strategies For Using DL and DCA Opening Time Differences to Collect More Fastpasses"
www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1553197


"Why I Park Hop" http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1491961


& read the rest of HG's tip threads as well.


Also, the first page of my trip report might be helpful. (linked in my signature below). Probably best to have a DLR map handy when reading all tip threads.

 

[ArchOwl]

Disney Land 7:30am

Runner Gets FP for Indy
Jungle Cruise
Pirates of the Caribbean
On our way to Toon town grab FP for Splash Mountain
Once we get to TT grap FP for Roger Rabbit
Mickeys House
Minnie House
Gadgets Go Coaster
Chip N Dale Tree House
Grab FP for space mountain
Matterhorn
Haunted Mansion

It should be around 11am at this time grab lunch and eat, Grap one more FP for space mountain before leaving at 12.

First, sorry about BTMRR! That is a bummer, but you can substitute BTMRR FP with a repeat FP.

There are a few problems with the plan you have above. First ToonTown doesn't open until an hour after the rest of the park opens, so it looks like in the plan above you will get either a little early or right when it opens. It is a good idea to get there within an hour or so of its opening, which is two hours after the rest of the park opens.

Secondly, you are not maximizing FP collection in this plan. To hold a maximum amount of FPs by noon, you need to collect another FP as soon as you are eligible for it. This means that 45 minutes or so after getting your first FP, you need to get your second FP. Is there a reason you want to get an Indy FP first? Just wondering, because I think it is widely acknowledged that Space and Splash run out of FPs earlier than the others.

Also, as another poster mentioned, Splash is not on the way to ToonTown. This is okay, at some point you are going to have to go over to that part of the park and then backtrack. I just want you to know.

The touring plan I posted had you going to Matterhorn early, this is because the line gets really long during the day and there is no FP. Plan to fit that in early. Ridemax will also frequently put it in during the parades, which can also work. But you have to have a plan for it, or else end up spending the better part of an hour waiting and riding. If you do it early, you will spend 5-10 minutes.

As Hound 109 pointed out, the morning is for collecting FPs and riding slow loaders. You didn't seem interested in Fantasyland rides and that is why I left them out before. But I should have said if you have any interest in riding them (and they are really cool!), you should definitely do that during the morning. So put those in Ridemax along with the headliners and Ridemax will tell you to do the exact same thing, head to Fantasyland after picking up a FP for Space. Ride the slow loaders there, and then collect FPs between the Matterhorn and ToonTown after you have completed Fantasyland.

Ridemax is a great tool and fun to play around with, so I would spend some time with it. Very quickly you will see the strategy it employs. Have fun!

 

[NavyDad01]

@ArchOwl @Hound 109 @sonnyjane

6/2 Thursday
6/6 Monday
6/8 Wednesday


I plan on riding all the big rides and as much as I can on all other rides. Regarding the Matterhorn I kept putting it in my plans and it kept saying 45min wait with Ride Max . I would really like to get to DCA by 10am because everything I enter says it can not be done in the time frame 12-6 (Ride Max).I'm open to any touring plans I know I already got a few but have not entered it into Ride Max yet.

The reason I selected jungle cruise, Pirates and Haunted mansion is because we have a baby and figured not doing a baby swap would help in the morning .It was a long night so could not play with Ride Max tonight.

Also did I read somewhere that TT is busier on Wed and Mon for some reason? Its been a rough day I got notice I might have to deploy later this year kinda got me worried.

 

[sonnyjane]

Its been a rough day I got notice I might have to deploy later this year kinda got me worried.

Sorry to hear that. My husband is heading out the door this fall for a 6-monther in Afghanistan - his third tour in four years. Best of luck to you and your family and I hope you get to have a magical trip at Disneyland!

 

[crarmy]

Lots of great info, I am just now trying to put together our itinerary and this post has been very helpful!

NavyDad01 would love to know how it all worked out when you get back!! And good luck to you on your upcoming assignment, needless to say, our family has a lot of respect for people like you and you are our heros!!

 

[NavyDad01]

So I'm entering a few of the plans suggested to me I'm trying to schedule it so that were eating lunch at about 11:30 at disneyland so that we can see the jedi training show. I figured we can eat lunch till 12:30 and head to DCA afterwards.So that means I can collect all the fast passes in the morning.

 

[NavyDad01]

So to be clear I should be able to get 4 Fast passes by the time I hit DCA at 10:15 am

8:00 splash
8:50 space
9:00 Roger rabbit
10:00 indy

I know not in that specific order but thats the general idea right and right when I get to Dca I can get one for Soaring and Woc

 

[skiingfast]

So to be clear I should be able to get 4 Fast passes by the time I hit DCA at 10:15 am

8:00 splash
8:50 space
9:00 Roger rabbit
10:00 indy

I know not in that specific order but thats the general idea right and right when I get to Dca I can get one for Soaring and Woc

Splash, yes. Space, probably. RR Positively. Indy, not likely. Getting a Space FP at 8:50 probably means a return window well past ten, so most likely after Space you will need to wait two hours. Two hours is the maximum wait between collecting FPs(assuming FPs are still left for an attraction), but for RR it doesn't matter because it isn't connected to and restricted by the rest of the FP system in the DL Park.

DCA isn't connected to DL's FP system so when you go over there it won't be a problem.

 

[DLR29]

You could switch Space and Splash to have a better chance of getting Indy at 10. Usually Splash FPs don't have far in advance return times until later in the day. I have done a similar plan but Splash was closed. I did:

-8:00 Space
-8:50 BTMRR
-9:00 RR
-9:35 Space
Hopped and got Soarin and WoC FP.

 

[OnTheRoadAgain]

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[Hound 109]

So I'm entering a few of the plans suggested to me I'm trying to schedule it so that were eating lunch at about 11:30 at disneyland so that we can see the jedi training show. I figured we can eat lunch till 12:30 and head to DCA afterwards.So that means I can collect all the fast passes in the morning.

Tell us how this goes. I think having lunch & a show is a great idea.

Regarding FP order.....I would do:

- 8am SM
- 8:50 Indy
- 9:40 BTMRR
- 10:30 Splash
(or 9:40 splash & 10:30 BTMRR)
- 10:35 RR (or just wait till you return to DL that afternoon to pick up a FP at RR)

Then hop to DCA.

 

[OnTheRoadAgain]

Tell us how this goes. I think having lunch & a show is a great idea.

Regarding FP order.....I would do:

- 8am SM
- 8:50 Indy
- 9:40 BTMRR
- 10:30 Splash
(or 9:40 splash & 10:30 BTMRR)
- 10:35 RR (or just wait till you return to DL that afternoon to pick up a FP at RR)

Then hop to DCA.

I don't think you could count on picking up BRMRR FPs until 11:50, considering the 2-hour window. Maybe a little sooner if you're lucky, but not 50 minutes. Maybe I'm wrong though.

 

[Hound 109]

I don't think you could count on picking up BRMRR FPs until 11:50, considering the 2-hour window. Maybe a little sooner if you're lucky, but not 50 minutes. Maybe I'm wrong though.

Getting to the park at rope drop & having a plan has more to do with it than luck. Many of us have enjoyed picking up our 4th FP (SM, Indy, Splash & BTMRR) by 10:30 or 10:45 (assuming an 8am opening).

Can't "count on it"....but the first two hours normally have windows of between 45-60 min. From Hydroguy's "Which FP First?" thread:

It depends on what you want to ride, how many times you want to ride it, and when you show up at he parks. Note that if you show up two hours after the park opens you will have lost about three FP opportunities.

So lets imagine two possibilities. First, the smart DLR visitor who arrives at the gates at least 20 minutes early (30 minutes is better). Second, the not so smart visitor who arrives two hours after the park opens. Aside from the fact that the smart visitor was able to get on 5-12 rides in the first two hours minutes and can then focus on other rides that always have short lines, lets look at the FP implications.

Facts to be aware of:

1. DLR accepts FP any time after its one hour window opens until park closing

2. After you get a FP, the next time you can get a FP is set by a minimum of 45 minutes or a maximum of 120 minutes, depending on what the return time is of the previous FP.

3. The DL and DCA FP systems are not connected, and thus FPs at one park have no influence on the other

4. The examples below are illustrative only - the real world of your group will dictate how practical it is to pick up your FPs. No one wants a FP Nazi dictator in their group, but everyone likes to avoid lines. You need to find the right balance for your group. In addition, it depends on where you are physically in the parks. If it is not practical to get a certain FP, then get the next most practical one when you have opportunity.


Smart Visitor:

Assume DL opens at 8AM - this is the order you should get your FastPasses in an ideal world. Modify this as necessary to fit your group, location in the parks, and available time.

1. Space Mtn (get FP @8:10AM - next FP time will be 8:55AM - you can use this FP anytime after 8:55AM)
2. Splash Mtn (get FP @8:55AM - next FP time will be 9:40AM - you can use this FP anytime after 9:40AM)
3. Indiana Jones (get FP @9:40AM - next FP time will be about 10:30AM - you can use this FP anytime after 10:30AM)
4. Buzz Lightyear (get FP @10:30AM - next FP time will be about 11:15AM - you can use this FP anytime after 11:15AM)
5. Big Thunder Mtn RR (get FP @11:15AM - next FP time will be about 12:00PM - you can use this FP anytime after 12:00PM)
6. Autopia (get FP @12:00PM - next FP time will be about 12:45PM - you can use this FP anytime after about 12:45PM)

It really is not that hard to do the above by 2PM as long as you start at 8AM. If you really want to focus as above, you can get one of everything by lunch.

There is one other FP opportunity at DL: Roger Rabbit. Roger Rabbit is not connected to the DL FP system and you can get one anytime you want without conflict with other DL FastPasses.

Further, I no longer get FPs for Autopia after realizing the FP return line can be a 25 minute wait. If I only had one day at DL, I would get an Autopia FP. But if I had multiple days, I would plan Autopia for an early morning thru the standby line.



Not So Smart Visitor:

Assume DL opens at 8AM, this visitor arrives at 10AM.

1. Space Mtn (get FP @10:10AM - next FP time will be about 12:10PM - you can use this FP anytime after about 3:00PM)
2. Splash Mtn (get FP @12:10PM - next FP time will be 2:10PM - you can use this FP anytime after maybe 6:00PM)
3. Indiana Jones (get FP @2:10PM - next FP time will be about 4:10PM - you can use this FP anytime after maybe 9:00PM)
4. Buzz Lightyear (get FP @4:10PM - next FP time will be about 6:10PM - you can use this FP anytime maybe 6:10PM)
5. Big Thunder Mtn RR (get FP @6:10PM - next FP time will be about 6:55PM - you can use this FP anytime maybe 6:55PM)
6. Autopia (get FP @6:55PM - next FP time will be about 7:40PM)

And, again, you can get Roger Rabbit any time you want.



OK, so what's the difference?

Well, in both cases the person got FastPasses for everything. But in the second case, one had to stay all afternoon at the parks to do it. In the first case, one could take a break back to a hotel or something and still have all their FastPasses. Or they could get FastPasses for a second ride on something. Or they could go to DCA and start collecting FastPasses. Or they could use their FastPasses in the afternoon when all other rides have the longest lines.

The not so smart person cannot ride many of the FP rides until the evening.


At DCA

Similar logic holds. Here is the ideal order to get FastPasses:

1. Soarin' over Ca
2. California Screamin
3. Grizzly River Run (on a hot day - otherwise this can wait til later)
4. Tower of Terror
5. Mulholland Madness

All of the DLR FastPass tips and tricks are discussed here:

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=885132

Some of us will argue over Indy before SM.....or BTMRR before Splash. But most agree to pick up FPs early & often the first 2.5 hours.

& also to ride slow loaders (especially slow loaders in fantasyland) the first 60-90 minutes.

 

[OnTheRoadAgain]

Thanks Hound for pulling that together. I've read it in the past, guess I just forgot some of the details.

Of course ST FP is going to have to be in there somewhere.

 

[ArchOwl]

I guess I am a little confused because I thought the OP had three days in the parks? If so, there is no need to hop to DCA at 10am anyway, since you have three days to see everything in both parks (no need to stuff it into one day between 12-6).

Certainly, you could hop over to DCA earlier, but don't feel like you should only spend one day there between noon and six pm. After the first two days of park hopping, the third day you could decide to do only one park if you wanted.

So just to be clear, collect FPs each morning while riding the slower rides, hop to DCA and collect FPs and use them, hop back to Dland and use your FPs and then watch the shows (if available, more rides if not). If you do this each day, you can fit different rides in at Dland and DCA over the course of your vacation without much problem. By maximizing FPs, you will have the opportunity to ride the headliners many times, while others will be standing in line!

Hopefully this clears up any confusion.