It would be wonderful if there were a better Internet "connection" at sea. Not sure how to do that, but if it were the case, we could see all those people who can work from home and school from home taking "off-peak" vacations. Some, as I suggested earlier for a possible future, could actually be registered as living in one state/country, but spend their days in their cruise ship home. Or vacation home.One thing that the shutdowns taught us is that many of us can work from home or where ever and do so effectively. Hopefully companies will cooperate with this concept and many of us can move out of expensive cities where our jobs are and find nicer communities to live in. I myself live in a fairly rural setting in Western PA, but work in the DC area most of the time. I have enjoyed not having to be in DC all the time, especially this week with all of closures for the inauguration.
This is an interesting idea. Also, could there be DVC ships?It would be wonderful if there were a better Internet "connection" at sea. Not sure how to do that, but if it were the case, we could see all those people who can work from home and school from home taking "off-peak" vacations. Some, as I suggested earlier for a possible future, could actually be registered as living in one state/country, but spend their days in their cruise ship home. Or vacation home.
Also, anyone thought about whether DVC would start selling a portion of staterooms as timeshares? Why not? You'd be guaranteed a certain percentage of occupancy.
If we never go back to 100% capacity then that is okay with me. Instead of rides being a 120min wait or longer it will be 60. Still long but not as bad.I am happy most venues, locations, and such were over packed 12 months ago.
Originally no limit, then a fire code limit, now a Covid limit.
Prices will go up, crowds go down, and life will go on.
If we never go back to 100% capacity then that is okay with me. Instead of rides being a 120min wait or longer it will be 60. Still long but not as bad.
Power trip, anyone? Personally, I wouldn't mind if Fauci took a long cruise from a short pier.Based on the below quote from Dr. Fauci, eliminating COVID seems like window dressing for the "heavy lifting" that he thinks needs to be done to get on a better footing...In such a transformation we will need to prioritize changes in those human behaviors that constitute risks for the emergence of infectious diseases. Chief among them are reducing crowding at home, work, and in public places as well as minimizing environmental perturbations such as deforestation, intense urbanization, and intensive animal farming. Equally important are ending global poverty, improving sanitation and hygiene, and reducing unsafe exposure to animals, so that humans and potential human pathogens have limited opportunities for contact.
Power trip, anyone? Personally, I wouldn't mind if Fauci took a long cruise from a short pier.
Hear, hear!Power trip, anyone? Personally, I wouldn't mind if Fauci took a long cruise from a short pier.
I think what he is talking about is that entertainment is going to change in the future and in many ways cruises fall into that. Things like packed concerts, sporting events, plays, cruises, airline flights, etc may become a thing of the past.
The elephant in the room that no discussion on would end well is that the earth is really overpopulated which has lead to many of the environmental issues even though many things are more green than they were in the past. Through technology and science the can push the carrying capacity higher, but there is that environmental cost. The problem is there is no good solution to this problem that anyone would agree upon. I just know I was a single child, so was the wife and we only have one child. Plan for me was none, but life happened.
Living in WI is like 2 states split in half. The south has a majority of the people and while we have some forests and such it is pretty typical. You drive up north is like a completely different world and it is amazing. Less densely populated and lots of nature and forests
So in the end a lot should change in the future, but if I were betting on this, I don't bet, I would say in 2 years we will have forgotten and ships, sporting events, concerts, etc will be packed just like they were before.
I agree everything will be back to packed and probably sooner than 2 years.
I hope you're right. Please make it so.
I'm so tired of all of this. Exhausted actually.
This may be the animating force behind lots of the emerging global governance structure. And, as pressing as some may think it is, one could expect a lot of anxiety over how population control/reduction might be ethically accomplished. And, if the pandemic is any indicator, citizens are not likely to be given any voice in the matter.The elephant in the room that no discussion on would end well is that the earth is really overpopulated which has lead to many of the environmental issues even though many things are more green than they were in the past.
This may be the animating force behind lots of the emerging global governance structure. And, as pressing as some may think it is, one could expect a lot of anxiety over how population control/reduction might be ethically accomplished. And, if the pandemic is any indicator, citizens are not likely to be given any voice in the matter.
But, back to cruising: lots of people like the idea of smaller crowds at DCL and the parks, because its like "hey, more Disney for me!" But, not everyone who now enjoys these things will get to participate if crowds are reduced and the numbers of ships/parks is not ratably increased. And, the cost of cruising with smaller crowds, more cleaning, etc., may price a lot of us out of the market.
Yeah. It might be back to cruising down the river on inner tubes for us - back to where we started.I think the future cost of cruising is definitely going to go up if occupancy needs to drop. That will be unfortunate and honestly the number of cruise lines would decrease. We are a thrifty family by choice and price increases would make us think hard about still cruising.
Oh, he's just a doctor - what would he know?FWIW the quote was on how to limit future pandemics; something to strive for in the coming decades and hundreds of years. I don't have a problem with what he is saying... in theory.
Paper if anyone is interested in reading it in context:
https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(20)31012-6#
Medical and other experts understand their fields. But, they are no more qualified than any of the rest of us at to what our values should be.
One thing that the shutdowns taught us is that many of us can work from home or where ever and do so effectively. Hopefully companies will cooperate with this concept and many of us can move out of expensive cities where our jobs are and find nicer communities to live in. I myself live in a fairly rural setting in Western PA, but work in the DC area most of the time. I have enjoyed not having to be in DC all the time, especially this week with all of closures for the inauguration.
Also if there was a way in the US that we could spread out the population more, it would be helpful especially during a pandemic. Perhaps the new work from anywhere policies that are changing will help with that, but will really hurt the larger cities. It isn't a surprise that the larger more densely populated cities in the US are struggling the most with this. There are many other countries that are even more densely populated than the US as well. Also for better or worse the US doesn't take well to heavy restrictions being placed on them, even if for the greater good. Some of the other countries accept the restrictions without question.I'm all for working from home from here on out. Work was such a cootie farm anyway. I love cars and driving, but I really enjoy not polluting, and not having to put on makeup It's actually been nice when dealing with obnoxious co-workers during meetings, because I don't have video on. I can roll my eyes all I want and message other co-workers about how ridiculous the meeting is. I actually get a ton more work done too and have time to take a break to exercise at home, walk, or ride bikes during the day. I have always had the ability to work from home some, but companies and bosses never really wanted people doing it too much because some people abuse it.
As for Fauci's statements, I agree somewhat with what he says. A lot of the problems with diseases and natural disasters lately are due to us being out of tune with nature. There's a balance, and nature will always put things in balance when it needs to. It may not have the results we like though. I don't know if his ideas will have on repercussions for cruising, other than the part about limiting the spread of diseases. He's coming from an infectious disease mindset where a lot of these diseases are the result of human interaction with nature gone wrong. There will have to be a balance between daily life and nature. Balance is key, Daniel-san.