How do you think losing the AAA rating will effect you on a personal level?

OceanAnnie

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I think we have only just begun to see how bad our economy can get.

On a personal level, everything we purchase routinely will go up -- groceries, clothing, etc.. Less discretionary money. I think times are going to get a whole lot leaner. I hope I am wrong.

What do you think? Oh and are you going to prepare for these changes? If so, how?
 
Only one agency has downgraded the rating. The other two have not. And the S&P has politicized something that shouldn't be.

Right now, I'm not worried about it.
 
Only one agency has downgraded the rating. The other two have not. And the S&P has politicized something that shouldn't be.

Right now, I'm not worried about it.

To me, the problems that landed us where we are, have not been resolved which puts us squarely in jeopardy. Just my opinion. Like I said, I hope I'm wrong.
 
I'm going to update Quicken tomorrow and then not look at it for about six months. :)
 

We have big economic problems in this country, but in comparison to those, this S&P downgrade is a grain of sand in the Sahara.

The first problem we face is that our currency has no intrinsic value. When a currency is not backed by anything of finite value, you can make it up out of thin air, and we have. I'm not going to get political, but when you have unlimited dollars, a government can engage in basically any activity it wants with little immediate pain to its citizens. Gone are the days, such as back during WWII, when we had victory gardens, and gave up silk stockings because we had to, because resources are finite.

Now we just print more money and buy what we want, pushing the day of reckoning down the road in the form of inflation.

We have a bank, in the form of the Federal Reserve, that controls interest rates, but is not a government entity and does not answer to the government.

Again, not getting political, or meaning to, just trying to say that things don't make much sense.

Interest rates have nowhere to go but up. Get rid of your variable rate debt by locking it in or paying it off.

If we have runaway inflation, money in savings loses value compared to money you're earning on the job, so consider taking some savings and making any urgent repairs/purchases now.

Keep an amount in readily-available cash that makes you comfortable and gives you a safety net.

Consider stocking up on things you know you'll use, especially things like a new set of tires, or imported items, that make heavy use of petroleum products in one way or another.

As a general practice, try to become as self sufficient as possible. It's good for you!

Meet your local food producers! If the cost of oil skyrockets, the more you can buy within a 20-mile radius of your home, the better. And locally grown food, in season, is highly likely to be better for you anyway.

I wouldn't panic, though.
 
We have big economic problems in this country, but in comparison to those, this S&P downgrade is a grain of sand in the Sahara.

The first problem we face is that our currency has no intrinsic value. When a currency is not backed by anything of finite value, you can make it up out of thin air, and we have. I'm not going to get political, but when you have unlimited dollars, a government can engage in basically any activity it wants with little immediate pain to its citizens. Gone are the days, such as back during WWII, when we had victory gardens, and gave up silk stockings because we had to, because resources are finite.

Now we just print more money and buy what we want, pushing the day of reckoning down the road in the form of inflation.

We have a bank, in the form of the Federal Reserve, that controls interest rates, but is not a government entity and does not answer to the government.

Again, not getting political, or meaning to, just trying to say that things don't make much sense.

Interest rates have nowhere to go but up. Get rid of your variable rate debt by locking it in or paying it off.

If we have runaway inflation, money in savings loses value compared to money you're earning on the job, so consider taking some savings and making any urgent repairs/purchases now.

Keep an amount in readily-available cash that makes you comfortable and gives you a safety net.

Consider stocking up on things you know you'll use, especially things like a new set of tires, or imported items, that make heavy use of petroleum products in one way or another.

As a general practice, try to become as self sufficient as possible. It's good for you!

Meet your local food producers! If the cost of oil skyrockets, the more you can buy within a 20-mile radius of your home, the better. And locally grown food, in season, is highly likely to be better for you anyway.

I wouldn't panic, though.

I agree with your post.

You have hit on points we have considered. We are not in panic mode. We are thinking about and planning what is best for the future.
 
Incidentally, while a downgrade in credit rating means that the US has to pay more to borrow, because we are a greater credit risk, that doesn't necessarily mean it will impact consumer borrowing. It probably will, but it's not a 100% given, especially if it's just one ratings agency.

In addition, a credit downgrade is, IMHO, a good thing! It means it will make it harder, more painful, for us to borrow, and I think the US needs to stop living beyond its means. It will be a little painful, sure, but not nearly as painful as something like uncontrolled hyperinflation would be. Unless you happen to get a kick out of paying millions for a loaf of bread, like they have in Zimbabwe... :sad2:
 
Incidentally, while a downgrade in credit rating means that the US has to pay more to borrow, because we are a greater credit risk, that doesn't necessarily mean it will impact consumer borrowing. It probably will, but it's not a 100% given, especially if it's just one ratings agency.

In addition, a credit downgrade is, IMHO, a good thing! It means it will make it harder, more painful, for us to borrow, and I think the US needs to stop living beyond its means. It will be a little painful, sure, but not nearly as painful as something like uncontrolled hyperinflation would be. Unless you happen to get a kick out of paying millions for a loaf of bread, like they have in Zimbabwe... :sad2:

I agree a credit downgrade is a good thing in this case. It would have been better if we could have reigned in our spending and avoided it, but since we couldn't...

If we get a QE3, we will see some changes. And I do think that is a real possibility.
 
Oh my...I have a cold, am on drugs, been on the boards all night because there is nothing on TV. I read this title and the first post and am thinking, "Disney isn't accepting the AAA discount anymore?" And people are this upset about it? Oh my. I get it now.

Time to try and sleep.

Liz
 
Oh my...I have a cold, am on drugs, been on the boards all night because there is nothing on TV. I read this title and the first post and am thinking, "Disney isn't accepting the AAA discount anymore?" And people are this upset about it? Oh my. I get it now.

Time to try and sleep.

Liz

Hope you feel better soon.
 
Oh my...I have a cold, am on drugs, been on the boards all night because there is nothing on TV. I read this title and the first post and am thinking, "Disney isn't accepting the AAA discount anymore?" And people are this upset about it? Oh my. I get it now.

Time to try and sleep.

Liz

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Well, Disney is instituting their own inflation with price increases after all. LOL.
 
We changed our budget drastically about 5 years ago- let me rephrase that.....we started a real budget 5 years ago!

Since then, we have tweaked and retweaked it several times. The latest tweak was to cut satellite TV completely AND commit to a max of one vacation per year.

I do worry. I worry we will never be able to sell our house (not currently trying and don't need to right now, but I worry anyway!) I worry about my kids' future. I worry about paying for college.

I am a worrier.....so this whole thing is NOT helping me at all.

Dawn
 
We changed our budget drastically about 5 years ago- let me rephrase that.....we started a real budget 5 years ago!

Since then, we have tweaked and retweaked it several times. The latest tweak was to cut satellite TV completely AND commit to a max of one vacation per year.

I do worry. I worry we will never be able to sell our house (not currently trying and don't need to right now, but I worry anyway!) I worry about my kids' future. I worry about paying for college.

I am a worrier.....so this whole thing is NOT helping me at all.

Dawn

You aren't alone.
 
I do worry about DS' college years and what the job market will be like when he gets done. It's not pretty out there.
 
I'm not especially concerned at this point. In fact, I'm cautiously hopeful (yeah, I'm a "half full" type) that it'll be the kick in the pants our supposed leaders need to start working for the wellbeing of the country again, rather than for ideology or campaign contributions. But that's easy for me to say; we don't have any debt and don't have large investments that we're worried about losing (just retirement funds with 25 years before we need them), and I'm not a worrier by nature.
 
I think there's no point in worrying, beyond preparing yourself and your family as best you can for tough times ahead. We have no choice but to sail this ship through the storm - we just have to batten down the hatches.

And these things are never as bad when you're in them as they look from the outside. They tend to happen gradually, and people adjust.

We're using Dave Ramsey's plan to get out of debt, and it has helped us manage our finances as we've gone from two incomes to one for the past year.

One thing that I do think is sad is that I've given up hope of having a real career that lasts, or spending more than two years with any employer. It just doesn't seem to be in the cards. In my career, I've had two jobs end after a year to corporate acquisition or closure.
 
To me, the problems that landed us where we are, have not been resolved which puts us squarely in jeopardy. Just my opinion. Like I said, I hope I'm wrong.

I agree..ALL agencies have been warning us to rein in our debt and fix our economic issues. This is NOT political unless you want to blast the entire government for years and years for the mess we've gotten into. I just try and save as much as I can and am focusing more on cash. I have a locked in mortgage rate and I'm working on paying that off, no CC debt and cars paid off. I do think in time interest rates will rise..I think now they are being kept artificially low, like everything else that is being controlled and should just be left to self adjust. I have noticed my budget slowly being hit by higher gas and groceries, but like others have said, we ain't seen nothing yet.
 
I worry that this will make other countries reconsider having the US dollar as the reserve currency for the world. If they ever change the reserve currency we will have crazy inflation (dollar will be worthless) and we will be totally screwed.
 
If we have runaway inflation, money in savings loses value compared to money you're earning on the job, so consider taking some savings and making any urgent repairs/purchases now.
This is what we are doing. We are making repairs to things and stocking up. I am afraid that sometime in the future that the dollar might be worth nil in which case having things will be better than money.:scared1:
I guess there is a fine line between hoarding and stocking up. :rotfl2:
 
I agree with the last three posters.

There are many things to consider with the state of our nation and the world today. We are financially tied to other failing economies as well as having economic woes of our own.

I'm not wringing my hands with worry. I use the term "worry" as a verb relating to preparedness.
 















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