How do you maximize college financial aid?

My DS is a hs senior so we are looking at all of this right now.

Someone mentioned having a good gpa would help get merit aid- scholarship money. We have been finding that gpa is important, but ACT/SAT score is even more important. Many schools list on their website scholarship money available and you can look at charts with gpa and testing scores to get an idea of merit aid (money that you don't have to pay back!) that your student could qualify for. My DS scored a 32 on his ACT the 2nd time he took it and this has really opened up merit aid opportunities for him. I had dd take the ACT and SAT last year when she was a sophomore so we could see how she scored. If we had been unhappy with her scores, I would have bought prep books or perhaps even signed her up for a test prep program. Often this type of scholarship is renewable each undergrad year if the student achieves a certain GPA.

I also purchased the book "Paying for College without going Broke". It really explains the FAFSA and gives tips how to maximize aid eligibility. This book would really help you with an 8th grader because it gives long and short term strategies. According to this book colleges will assess parental assets at a top rate of 5.65% and parental income will be assessed up to 47%. Your child's income will be assessed up to 50% and your child's assets will be assessed at 20%. You cannot "hide" the income your child makes (well any reported to the IRS) but some suggest putting any assets in the parents' names.

Edited to add that i just read in my book that the first $4500 in students after-tax income is sheltered for a dependent student for schools that use the FAFSA. With the profile there is no income protection allowance.

Something else helpful I have learned- some families have been focusing on building emergency funds with 6-12 months of income covered in the account. At the same time they might have $6000 in credit card debt. When you fill out your FAFSA they will look at the emergency fund but they don't take into account that you have to make payments on credit card debt. ADVICE: get rid of your credit card debt before your child's senior year of college.

Our son is a senior so we will fill out the FAFSA in January. We currently have $10,000 set aside for a new roof. We need to get that new roof put on and paid for before the end of the calendar year so that money won't count as an asset for us.

Sorry this is so long but hopefully you will find something helpful in it. My information is for schools that use the FAFSA only. Profile schools are different but are covered in the book that I mentioned. It is great that you are thinking about this now!
 
Sorry guys...I wasn't clear on the home equity loan thing. I meant to take one and use it for things other than college....like a renovation,etc.. Would not be using it for college. Wondering if it 'looks' better to have less equity if that makes sense?
 
Sorry guys...I wasn't clear on the home equity loan thing. I meant to take one and use it for things other than college....like a renovation,etc.. Would not be using it for college. Wondering if it 'looks' better to have less equity if that makes sense?

Yes, it will look better to have less equity so if you are going to do some renovations it is a good idea to do them the year before he goes to school SO those renovations aren't considered "equity" yet.
 
Yes, it will look better to have less equity so if you are going to do some renovations it is a good idea to do them the year before he goes to school SO those renovations aren't considered "equity" yet.

But equity isn't included in the FAFSA. You need to know if the colleges your child is applying to are FAFSA or Profile schools. The FAFSA doesn't look at how much money you are paying out each month to your mortgage and 2nd mortgage.
 

But equity isn't included in the FAFSA. You need to know if the colleges your child is applying to are FAFSA or Profile schools. The FAFSA doesn't look at how much money you are paying out each month to your mortgage and 2nd mortgage.

No it doesn't ask what your payment is but it DOES ask how much equity you have in your home. If you have 100,000 in equity, they will consider some of that "available" to pay for college. It is an actual question asked on the FAFSA form.
 
If you want my advice you will be far better off to go full time and SAVE the extra money you make to pay the tuition bills.

Need based aid is largely comprised of loans, unless your income is very low. All you are really doing delaying paying (and/or shifting the payments to the student) and adding interest onto the bill. We just had a meeting at work last week where we were talking about the huge increase in students that are graduating with $50 to $100k in student loans. It is becoming common to finance an entire education on student loans/parent loans/private loans. For most majors, the student job prospects simply do not pay the salaries needed to make those payments plus save for retirement, plus buy a house, plus save for their own children's educations. Something is going to crash on them. Honestly, I'm scared for many of them. In my view we are largely telling them "forget buying a house for the next 10 to 20 years - your education IS your house."

Heck, if you want the kid to pay the bill then you loan him the money and have him/her pay you back with interest once they start their career.
 
No it doesn't ask what your payment is but it DOES ask how much equity you have in your home. If you have 100,000 in equity, they will consider some of that "available" to pay for college. It is an actual question asked on the FAFSA form.

FAFSA does NOT ask about equity in your primary residence.

I am looking right at the submission for 2010-2011 school year we filed in January. There is no question that asks about equity in the home.

There is a question about net worth of current investments, which would include a SECOND or vacation home...but the instructions are specific in that the primary home should not be included in this figure.
 
I have 3 in college now.

All of my children's financial aid has come in the form of scholarships, work study or loans.

The best way to reduce what you need to contribute are scholarships. All three of mine have received academic scholarships and two of the three did really well on the SATs and received scholarships based on their SAT scores. As long as they maintain their grades scholarships don't have to be paid back. DS #1 has a full academic scholarship for tuition. DD#1 has a scholarship for about 50% of her tuition and DD#2 has scholarships for about 75% of her tuition. DS#1 and DD#2 also received scholarships based on their SAT scores. DD #2 was very diligent and applied for every scholarship she was eligble for, no matter how big or small. She ended up with a lot of little ones that will more than pay the cost of her books for the year.
 
FAFSA does NOT ask about equity in your primary residence.

I am looking right at the submission for 2010-2011 school year we filed in January. There is no question that asks about equity in the home.

There is a question about net worth of current investments, which would include a SECOND or vacation home...but the instructions are specific in that the primary home should not be included in this figure.

Make sure you are looking in the right spot--there IS a question there--it is online but not all the questions print out on the summary. It is on the original form you submit, not any of the corrections or on the summary.
 
Make sure you are looking in the right spot--there IS a question there--it is online but not all the questions print out on the summary. It is on the original form you submit, not any of the corrections or on the summary.

I must again disagree. I have done this form twice and never...not once...been asked for equity information.

The form is very specific about excluding the value of the family home:

Investments include real estate (do not include the family home), trust funds, UGMA and UTMA accounts, money market funds, mutual funds, certificates of deposit, stocks, stock options, bonds, other securities, Coverdell savings accounts, 529 college savings plans, the refund value of 529 prepaid tuition plans, installment and land sale contracts (including mortgages held), commodities, etc. For more information about reporting educational savings plans call 1-800-4-FED-AID. Investment value means the current balance or market value of these investments as of today. Investment debt means only those debts that are related to the investments.

As of today, what is the net worth of your parents’ investments, including real estate (not your parents’ home)? (Q92) Net worth means current value minus debt.

Please tell me what question specifically asks for the value of the family home on FAFSA?
 
I must again disagree. I have done this form twice and never...not once...been asked for equity information.

The form is very specific about excluding the value of the family home:





Please tell me what question specifically asks for the value of the family home on FAFSA?

Ok, but I remember filling out the form and thinking there is NO WAY I would use the equity in my home for this. I am positive that the original form asks for the value of your HOME and the equity-it wasn't in the "investment" section because we do have rental property and had to answer that one too.
 
I agree with msmayor that the FAFSA does not take into consideration or ask about equity of your first home. But please correct us with a specific line # if we are incorrect. I want to do it right come January!

The book I referred to early specifically states: "under the federal methodology, the value of your home is not considered part of your assets."
 
I agree with msmayor that the FAFSA does not take into consideration or ask about equity of your first home. But please correct us with a specific line # if we are incorrect. I want to do it right come January!

The book I referred to early specifically states: "under the federal methodology, the value of your home is not considered part of your assets."

I tried to access the original form and it does not let me-only the corrections. Question 90 is where it asks about the investments but this was before that in the original form. The value isn't considered but the EQUITY COULD BE. Those are two different things.
 
Ok, but I remember filling out the form and thinking there is NO WAY I would use the equity in my home for this. I am positive that the original form asks for the value of your HOME and the equity-it wasn't in the "investment" section because we do have rental property and had to answer that one too.

Maybe you are correct and older FAFSA forms looked at home equity? But I don't think the current ones do. The Profile is a whole different ballgame.
 
Maybe you are correct and older FAFSA forms looked at home equity? But I don't think the current ones do. The Profile is a whole different ballgame.

We have only done the 2010-2011 form-our oldest is a college freshman.
 
Ok, but I remember filling out the form and thinking there is NO WAY I would use the equity in my home for this. I am positive that the original form asks for the value of your HOME and the equity-it wasn't in the "investment" section because we do have rental property and had to answer that one too.

Its possible that what you completed was the CSS Profile, which is used by select schools to determine need. Profile schools definitely want to know equity information as they consider that as 'available' for college funding.

The CSS Profile is NOT used to determine eligibility for federal aid.
 
Its possible that what you completed was the CSS Profile, which is used by select schools to determine need. Profile schools definitely want to know equity information as they consider that as 'available' for college funding.

The CSS Profile is NOT used to determine eligibility for federal aid.

Nope, the Federal Aid form..

There was a similar post about counting parents in college/not counting parents in college and on one part of the form it asked that and on another part of the form it wanted just kids in college. There was a lot of back and forth on that topic too because of the same thing, the original form asks questions that are NOT on the summary or questions. We can relook at this in Feb when we all start doing the form again.
 
Nope, the Federal Aid form..

There was a similar post about counting parents in college/not counting parents in college and on one part of the form it asked that and on another part of the form it wanted just kids in college. There was a lot of back and forth on that topic too because of the same thing, the original form asks questions that are NOT on the summary or questions. We can relook at this in Feb when we all start doing the form again.

I am able to get to a .pdf of the 2010/2011 application and here is question 90:

90. As of today, what is the net worth of your parents’ investments, including real estate? Don’t include the home
you live in.
Net worth means current value minus debt. See Notes page 2.

Very specific. If you did include the value of your home, then you overstated this entry.

http://federalstudentaid.ed.gov/static/gw/docs/2010-11_PDF_FAFSA_English.pdf
 
Merit aid can be huge. My son (only top 20% of his class but with great SATs) received merit officers between $8000 to $21,500 per year.

Tips:

1. Have your kids apply at schools where they are at the top of the applicant pool.

2. Private schools tend to give a lot more merit money than publics.

3. Look at the cost of attendance of the private schools before getting your heart set on one. A $20,000 scholarship at a school that costs $50,000 a year will leave you owing $30,000; but a $20,000 scholarship at a school that only costs $30,000 a year will only leave you owing $10,000 (before need based aid.)

4. What else can your child do? My son is a singer, though not a music major. He auditioned for "non-major" scholarhips and got one worth $2000 a year, plus free voice lessons. Sounds small but it's over $8000 over 4 years! Some schools give tiny scholarships for Eagle Scouts, but some schools (like University of Evansville) give really big ones. There are also scholarships related to religious denominations (many privates have a loose historical affiliation with a religious denomination.)
 

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