How do you feel about this?

[2Princes2Princesses]

BTW--any ideas of quiet places would be great because even us bottlefeeders need a quiet place to feed our chunky monkeys!

One place I liked alot was behind the Xmas store in Liberty Square...just avoid the smoking area. Couple of quiet spots and shady back there.

Also, on the side path at AK that goes by the old Tarzan Rocks, make the left as soon as you enter Dinoland, most people go through Dinoland and under the yellow Dinosaur instead, so the one part of that path is quiet. Also, on off times for meals, the seating area for Flame Tree is great. If you go far down the path, sometimes you can find a completely empty area.

And near the Living Seas in Epcot, wayyyy over on the side. Very nice.

HTH someone. If I see and remember any more while we are there in September, I will add them. We like to find quiet spots to just unwind when we are wandering.

 

[MELSMICE]

Quite frankly, I am disgusted when I see babies being given bottles of formula and always wonder if the mother truly could NOT nurse (and then my heart goes out to her) or didn't want to.

I have been following most of this thread, but have not posted until now.

I am a little offended by this comment. Why should someone be disgusted that I was feeding my children from a bottle. Due to medication I was on after delivery I was unable to start immediately breastfeeding my oldest DD, as I had planned. After trying to pump & not being relaxed enough to do it I decided that bottle feeding would be the best route for us.

When I had my twins I decided that getting help with the feedings of my twins & having more time to spend with my oldest DD was the route I would take. I chose to bottle feed.

I am not disgusted by woman breastfeeding their children. It is a natural thing & what they choose. You (in general) should not be disgusted or have a "bleeding" heart over the fact that I chose to bottle feed my daughters. They are healthy, intelligent & great young women.

 

[va32h]

Quite frankly, I am disgusted when I see babies being given bottles of formula and always wonder if the mother truly could NOT nurse (and then my heart goes out to her) or didn't want to.

Oh that's right, I forgot. Moms who bottlefeed don't really love their children do they? They are just sadists who got pregnant for the sole reason of torturing their baby by feeding her poison.

I nursed my babies for a few months, when they were weaned to formula, I did not stop loving them. Whether I could NOT nurse or didn't want to nurse is none of your business, just as where and for how long you nurse isn't any of my business.

If moms on both sides of this and many other parenting debates could just learn how to mind their own business we'd all be much happier.

 

[schlepsnort]

Besides that, how do you know what is in the bottle? Maybe it's breastmilk that was pumped earlier. The studies all say that BREASTMILK is best for baby, not the breast itself.
And boy, way to be judgemental...do you judge all books by its cover?

Darn it, getting sucked back into this madness...

Bury the horse, it's dead already!

 

[rhiannonwales]

Originally Posted by sharibrat



Quite frankly, I am disgusted when I see babies being given bottles of formula and always wonder if the mother truly could NOT nurse (and then my heart goes out to her) or didn't want to.

Bird-Mom, you are right on the money with everything you said.


You know i am really offended by this remark. This is the exact reason why the lactation nuts have such a bad rap. Just like the commercial where they equate bottle feeding to a pregnant woman riding a bull.
Frankly yeah i'm a little creeped out by it. Never was for a long time. Know what got me creeped out by the whole thing? Best way to get me turned off something is to constantly shove it in my face.

Yeah i know breast is best. Fine. But please stop telling me that im somehow less of a mother because i don't nurse. Which would be better for my kids? To give them a bottle and be a happy mom, or to nurse and be a angry frustrated one? I honestly tried with my youngest, even though i didnt want to because she had tummy problems. Hated every minute of it. It felt weird, it was annoying to be constantly tied to the baby, she was hungry more often, and i never got anything done. Seemed all i was doing was nursing! Not to mention the whole no caffine/no gassy food/ no sugar/ no anything that may be bad for baby. You tell us not to judge you for nursing in public, and then you judge me for giving a bottle? Holy hypocrite Batman!

And for the record, i dont enjoy seeing exposed ****s either nursing or just in too little clothing. Nor do i enjoy seeing thongs,men with hairy backs in tank tops, plumbers butts, or scantily clad people of any gender while i am tring to eat and enjoy my day. Has nothing to do with sex. Just inappropriate.

From the formula fed non vaccinating uptight mother of 2 very healthy kids,
Sherrie

 

[Cool-Beans]

This thread is soooo going to get locked.

I've said it before...I think private body parts should remain private. A mom who feeds in public can easily cover herself.

The end result of the exposure of a breast is the same whether the woman is Janet Jackson or a breast-feeding mom...it makes the people around her uncomfortable. Totally different motivations, same result.

I'm very pro-breast feeding. It is the best thing for the baby, that's a fact. I think most women who don't do it are really unaware of HOW much better it is for the baby. They aren't bad moms who don't care about their kids. Thats MHO, anyway.

Why isn't this on the CB instead of Theme Parks?

 

[Mom to a Princess]

Quite frankly, I am disgusted when I see babies being given bottles of formula and always wonder if the mother truly could NOT nurse (and then my heart goes out to her) or didn't want to.

Bird-Mom, you are right on the money with everything you said.

Quite frankly, I am disgusted by your opinion. It is none of your business why a mother chooses to bottle feed. It is this type of opinion that truly makes me sick. When my dd was born I worked hard to make bf work for us and it did for nearly six months. Then I found out I had cancer and was instructed by my doctors to stop breast feeding so that I would not harm my child from the treatments I needed. It was people like you who made me so mad when I bottle fed my daughter in public - making snide comments or giving negative looks. Should I have not treated the cancer and kept on bf my daughter? If I had done that I would be dead and my dd would be without a mom. So please keep your looks and thoughts to yourself. You have no idea why those mothers made the choice to bottle feed and frankly it is none of your business.

To the op: go for it. Feed your child around the world! There is absolutely no shame in it. I did it for as long as I could and then I proudly bottle fed my dd for the rest of the time.

I think that people need to stop and be gratefull that there is an alternative out there and to learn to respect each mothers individual choice. I can tell you this when I was told I had to stop I was devestated but I was very glad that there was formula for me to give my dd.

 

[Amy&Dan]

Quite frankly, I am disgusted when I see babies being given bottles of formula and always wonder if the mother truly could NOT nurse (and then my heart goes out to her) or didn't want to.

This is one of those threads that has a "I can't stop looking at the car wreck scene even though its awful" type qualities to it. It makes me sad and sick but I can't for the life of me stop reading. Most of what everyone has said I agree with in one way or another. There is and has always been good arguments on both sides. And there always will be. And I always ask, why do we as women and mothers say these things to each other? We all as mothers almost always do whatever we can to make the best choices for our children. But your comment is so off base and your "I am Superior" attitude so distasteful I think you owe every bottle feeding parent on the planet an apology. So go ahead, we know we disgust you but we're waiting nonetheless. And these two kiddies in my sig were bottle fed, we were never disgusting, they can each count their "sick" visits to the doctor on one hand and I hope you realize how hurtful your comment is to me, their mother and every other woman you SLAMMED with this. Also, have you ever heard of a phenomenon called adoption? Do they get a break or do they disgust you as well?

OP: Feed your child where it works for you both.

 

[sharibrat]

That is utterly disturbing. While that may be alright is your house, I would inform my DD that is not something we do out in the open, and only mommies do it. (Just as, if I had a son, I would tell him not to play with himself, because that is not appropriate - Just my opinion - I am not trying to sarcastic or funny)

Is it disturbing for a child to pick up a dolly and feed her a bottle????????????? Feeding it 'boos' is the exact same thing. I find it beautiful. My daughter 'nurses' her dolls and stuffed animals. It shows me she truly understand what the human body is for. You would rather have a child learn that artificial powder and chemicals should be pumped into a baby doll??

Children only learn that bodies are shameful by what they learn from parents. Your response, saying it is not appropriate, is teaching just that. Teaching that this is something to be ashamed of and done privately.....or it could scar the child from EVER breastfeeding and doing what is best for their babies in the future.

That is truly sad.

 

[sharibrat]

Quite frankly, I am disgusted by your opinion. It is none of your business why a mother chooses to bottle feed. It is this type of opinion that truly makes me sick. When my dd was born I worked hard to make bf work for us and it did for nearly six months. Then I found out I had cancer and was instructed by my doctors to stop breast feeding so that I would not harm my child from the treatments I needed. It was people like you who made me so mad when I bottle fed my daughter in public - making snide comments or giving negative looks. Should I have not treated the cancer and kept on bf my daughter? If I had done that I would be dead and my dd would be without a mom. So please keep your looks and thoughts to yourself. You have no idea why those mothers made the choice to bottle feed and frankly it is none of your business.

I am sorry if this offended you. I was not clear enough I guess. I do not make snide comments or faces at bottle feeding mothers. Ever.

I simply said I WONDER why they don't BF. I also said my heart goes out to the mother who tried and could not. Such as your case. That must have been incredibly hard for you, but you knew you had to do it. I assume you won the battle with cancer - congrats.

 

[Timon_n_Pumba]

Hokay...

I'm not posting to offend, so please try to keep that in mind.

My wife is a certified lactation consultant as well as a breastfeeding mom (our older son until he was just over two years and our new addition--who's five months--currently), and I am an involved, observant, and empathetic father, so I feel like I have some perspective on this.

Insofar as WDW is concerned, a mother can breastfeed any time the child needs or desires it, anywhere she is allowed to be...in public or not. That's the law in Florida (and many other states as well, including California and Kansas, to name just two). If the thought of this disturbs you, I don't know what to say other than: "Don't look," and/or "Turn your head." After all, there's plenty of stuff to look at elsewhere---it IS Disney World. Should your children see a mother nursing in public, and have questions about it, then YOU will tell them something, whether it be that it's a mommy feeding her baby, or whatever "cover story" you might wish to spin (and I'm not saying that would be wrong; to each his or her own, especially where raising kids is concerned). I would imagine that no nursing mother, my wife included, would WANT to expose herself unnecessarily to passers-by or those in close proximity...but at the same time I understand that it COULD (and DOES) happen. And again, I would say, if that bothers you, then don't stare, avert your eyes, look anywhere else, and forget about it.

WDW has been kind enough to provide the baby care centers at each park, and having used them on numerous occasions (at DL, anyway, but I'm sure we'll hit them in FL on our upcoming trip), I can absolutely say they're very nice, cool, comfortable, and inviting environments for nursing or even just taking a break with the baby. However, I also agree wholeheartedly with many others in this thread who have correctly pointed out that they are very limited in their accessibility (as in, one per park), and this has by design ruled them out for the vast majority of infant feedings (especially in the early months). Sure, WDW could build more of them, and that would be a great thing, BUT Florida law has mandated that having such a place is not necessary, and therefore the baby center is an amenity only...nice, but not required.

I guess I'm basically just reiterating what others have said here, and maybe that's not such a bad thing. I will close by saying that my wife has always been quite modest, and that she will consistently try to be as discreet as possible when nursing in public. That being said, however, August or September in Florida is not the time to be having a receiving blanket (and yes, I know they're thin---but they're still BLANKETS) draped over your shoulder...much less your head. She does have a couple of nursing tops, but not enough for every day, and so there will almost certainly come a series of moments during our week long vacation that she will have to nurse the baby in public. All I can tell you is that she won't be intentionally trying to flash anyone, and if somebody should see something they disagree with I would hope they will have the decency and graciousness to...

Look away.

Hey, was that Goofy over there?!?!

Scott in MO

 

[ducklite]

Next time you are hungry, please wait until you can find a toilet upon which to eat and drink.

Where did the poster ever say to feed your child in a toilet?

You need to step down off your "I'M SUPERIOR BECAUSE I BRESTFEED AND IT'S THE ONLY HEALTHY WAY TO FEED YOUR CHILD" soapbox because you aren't helping your cause with your snotty attitude.

There are a LOT of reasons that mom's bottlefeed, and frankly none of them are any of anyone's damn business. Not all bottle fed kids have tooth rot or suffer from any of the other problems implied. Bottle fed children bond just as well with their moms.

It's been implied that BF children bond better to their moms then bottle fed. Well then, I guess that BF babies don't bond to their dads using that logic.

And again, I agree that breastfeeding is a good choice, but it's not possible for everyone. And it's also something that can and should be done with discretion--only because yes, some people are offended by it. We all need to live together on thsi planet, and that means we all need to give and take a bit. Using a quiet show or out of the way bench is all most people are asking. No one that I've seen here has suggested that someone simply not BF--just that they use some discretion.

As I've said earlier, it's easy to BF an infant or baby in public with no one really knowing what you are doing--not so with a wiggly two year old. There's no good reason that a two year old needs on demand BF. They can be offered a sippy cup with water if they are thirsty until an appropriate--and I don't mean a toilet, I mean a quiet out of the way bench or show or a child care center--can be reached.

And for the record, I agree with many others, there are many ways to soothe an upset child that don't require offering a teat. I'm sure many fathers would agree that they're perfectly able to soothe their children. Pretty much disproves that train of thought as well...

Anne

 

[alicenwonder99]

Wow! Alot of posts made here since yesterday morning!!

I have done extensive research into bf and specifically extended bf. There are many wrong facts thrown on this thread about bf. I think those of us who are extended bf'ers take it to heart when we read things like "sick" and "wrong". An older child ripping off mom's shirt and making a scene really are rare. You would be so surprised at the number of moms still bf their child past the age of 2. Most women keep it discreet. And most moms who are bf their babies try to keep it discreet. Yes, there may be moms who flash more than most people would like, but that doesn't happen all the time. I remember when I first started bf, I would sometimes get all fumbled around and my breast may have gotten exposed for a brief instant (it wasn't like I was standing around topless). Even with all of these stories on this thread of people witnessing outrageous bf behaviors, I can honestly say I've never, ever, never, never seen this. Most women who bf in public do so because they've got the "hang of it" pretty well, and they can get the baby latched on easily. So, it's just a very quick lifting of the corner of the shirt and getting baby on quickly. There's no exaggerated showing of unhooking a bra and exposing a breast.

My mom said when she was a child, she had seen lots of women bf their older child out in public. This would have been in the 30's in Chicago. She said the babies would have starved if they weren't bf...women in her neighborhood didn't use bottles or make their formula. So, formula must have been for the "rich" during that time. If you do your research, you will see how the formula companies got society to favor formula over breastmilk. Also, it was the upper class who started using formula, and this trickled down to the working class. Now, it's starting to move in the opposite direction: the statistics show that it is the more educated, and upper class moms who bf (and bf the longest), and this is starting to trickle down to the working class...but it still has alot more to go to change society's views on bf (as can be seen by this thread).

And even though I bf all of my kids and my 3rd child never even got a bottle once, I was STILL offended by the the post from the mom who said she was disgusted by seeing a baby being bottled fed. All moms love their babies dearly and only want the best for them.

Mary

 

[Mickey Fliers]

Where did the poster ever say to feed your child in a toilet?

You need to step down off your "I'M SUPERIOR BECAUSE I BRESTFEED AND IT'S THE ONLY HEALTHY WAY TO FEED YOUR CHILD" soapbox because you aren't helping your cause with your snotty attitude.

There are a LOT of reasons that mom's bottlefeed, and frankly none of them are any of anyone's damn business. Not all bottle fed kids have tooth rot or suffer from any of the other problems implied. Bottle fed children bond just as well with their moms.

It's been implied that BF children bond better to their moms then bottle fed. Well then, I guess that BF babies don't bond to their dads using that logic.

And again, I agree that breastfeeding is a good choice, but it's not possible for everyone. And it's also something that can and should be done with discretion--only because yes, some people are offended by it.

As I've said earlier, it's easy to BF an infant or baby in public with no one really knowing what you are doing--not so with a wiggly two year old. There's no good reason that a two year old needs on demand BF. They can be offered a sippy cup with water if they are thirsty until an appropriate--and I don't mean a toilet, I mean a quiet out of the way bench or show or a child care center--can be reached.

And for the record, I agree with many others, there are many ways to soothe an upset child that don't require offering a teat. I'm sure many fathers would agree that they're perfectly able to soothe their children. Pretty much disproves that train of thought as well...

Anne

As a mom who nursed her three boys and intends to nurse any others that come along ( )
ITA with everything Ducklite said!!

 

[Groovee]

Quite frankly, I am disgusted when I see babies being given bottles of formula.

So glad that you have such a wonderful opinion. It's your opinion but I have a fantastic friend who breastfed her first 3 children and then had to have a double masectomy. So no she truly couldn't. What should she have done? Left her babies to starve? It was a very upsetting time for her when she had 2 more children and was unable to feed them. But you know what. She has 5 fantastic kids who are all open minded and would say they were sorry for you for being so narrowminded!

 

[Va-bear]

the record, I NEVER coverd up with a blanket - and I especially wouldn't do it in the Florida heat! When Paul was latched on, there was nothing to see but the back of his head. That's it. Sure, if someone looked at us, it was obvious what he was doing, but you certainly couldn't see anything. If just knowing that a baby is nursing is offensive to someone, then, frankly, that's their problem and I really couldn't care less. Sorry to be harsh, but that's the definately the way I feel.

Sorry, to me this is part of whats wrong with our coutry..."this is good for me, SORRY if you dont like it." I breat fed both of my boys, and know its best. But, I DID walk across to the baby center (if you cant take time on vacation for you and your kids why go...) - or discreetly covered up with a VERY light cover. Many teens, elderly, shy, etc. are simply uncomfortable with this - why make others feel bad, especailly in a happy place?

It's considerate - what a concept.

 

[ducklite]

Sorry, to me this is part of whats wrong with our coutry..."this is good for me, SORRY if you dont like it." I breat fed both of my boys, and know its best. But, I DID walk across to the baby center (if you cant take time on vacation for you and your kids why go...) - or discreetly covered up with a VERY light cover. Many teens, elderly, shy, etc. are simply uncomfortable with this - why make others feel bad, especailly in a happy place?

It's considerate - what a concept.

Exactly!

And BTW--if it's sunny out down here it can be a lot more comfortable to actually be lightly covered than exposed to the intense sun... And if you're in the shade, a light blanket tossed over your shoulder but allowing plenty of ventilation on the sides isn't going to be any hotter than no blanket. And inside where everything is A/C'ed, it's a moot point.

Anne

 

[SnackyStacky]

This thread isn't on topic for the theme park board. It's also degenerated into name calling and personal attacks.

As such, this thread is closed.