Hotel costs

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/what-happened-to-the-150-hotel-room/ar-AA1WMKDf

I see why hotels cost so much now, it all makes sense. The businesses have handed off pricing to their third party vendors who price fix in markets so there are no deals to be found, been seeing this more and more. Add this to "custom pricing" and the immovability of prices falls into place

If someone wants to visit town A and the vendor is in town A they will make sure all 5 star rooms in town A cost the same $$$ so you are captive. I've been seeing the same prices across the board but couldn't quite figure out why empty hotels price like they are full to capacity.

Gone are the days of businesses paying any attention to guests. Gonna need a travel alias... I'm pretty sure a credit cards can have a second card named for a nickname.
 
If you’ve used booking dot com, they have dynamic pricing. The price changes within a few hours. I was comparing hotel prices and then showed my hubby later and the price changed significantly.
 

Apparently it's all inflations, not necessarily price gouging. There was a timely article in the WaPo yesterday which I'll gift here. https://wapo.st/4s27Md5

But from that link, they did provide some tips for booking:

Tricks to finding a midscale hotel​

So how can the midscale traveler stay in their lane and avoid the off-ramp to economy lodgings?

Hotel experts say check the calendar. Avoid high season and dates when special events are rolling through the area, such as the World Cup or Taylor Swift. For destinations popular among leisure travelers, visit during the week; for places frequented by business travelers, go over the weekend.

Sign up for a hotel’s loyalty program, especially the big three: Hilton, Marriott and IHG. Use those discounts for AAA members, seniors or military. Be open to staying in noncentral locations with downscaled amenities.
For reservations, Vanderholm suggested starting your search at least three months out, when hotels will set rates high then slowly drop them if rooms are not selling as anticipated.

Once you book a room, he said to watch for falling prices or cheaper rates at other properties. Depending on the hotel’s policy, you can rebook or cancel within 24 hours of your arrival. If you find a better price through a third-party site, contact the hotel, which should offer a price-match guarantee. Some companies, such as Hilton and Marriott, will add a 25 percent discount to the matched rate.
Vanderholm also recommends booking on a Sunday, when revenue managers are off and a computer algorithm is in charge of setting prices. Come Monday, he said, the staff may push the rates back up.
For day-of bookings, he said to call the hotel directly and tell the reservationist you noticed their competitors were charging $150 or less. Ask them straight out, “Can you cut me a deal?”
 
We always travel during off-times, book directly with the hotel(s) and will stay out a little further to get a better rate.
 
https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/what-happened-to-the-150-hotel-room/ar-AA1WMKDf

I see why hotels cost so much now, it all makes sense. The businesses have handed off pricing to their third party vendors who price fix in markets so there are no deals to be found, been seeing this more and more. Add this to "custom pricing" and the immovability of prices falls into place

If someone wants to visit town A and the vendor is in town A they will make sure all 5 star rooms in town A cost the same $$$ so you are captive. I've been seeing the same prices across the board but couldn't quite figure out why empty hotels price like they are full to capacity.

Gone are the days of businesses paying any attention to guests. Gonna need a travel alias... I'm pretty sure a credit cards can have a second card named for a nickname.
as someone who spent decades in the hotel business, I can gty you the last thing they want to do is cede control/push business to the third party booking sites. I was in a market where rates could change multiple times a day and we controled our rates
 
You have to monitor sales. IHG is having one now, I have gone in and rebooked several stays at a lower rate.
 
Apparently it's all inflations, not necessarily price gouging. There was a timely article in the WaPo yesterday which I'll gift here. https://wapo.st/4s27Md5

But from that link, they did provide some tips for booking:

Tricks to finding a midscale hotel​

So how can the midscale traveler stay in their lane and avoid the off-ramp to economy lodgings?

Hotel experts say check the calendar. Avoid high season and dates when special events are rolling through the area, such as the World Cup or Taylor Swift. For destinations popular among leisure travelers, visit during the week; for places frequented by business travelers, go over the weekend.

Sign up for a hotel’s loyalty program, especially the big three: Hilton, Marriott and IHG. Use those discounts for AAA members, seniors or military. Be open to staying in noncentral locations with downscaled amenities.
For reservations, Vanderholm suggested starting your search at least three months out, when hotels will set rates high then slowly drop them if rooms are not selling as anticipated.

Once you book a room, he said to watch for falling prices or cheaper rates at other properties. Depending on the hotel’s policy, you can rebook or cancel within 24 hours of your arrival. If you find a better price through a third-party site, contact the hotel, which should offer a price-match guarantee. Some companies, such as Hilton and Marriott, will add a 25 percent discount to the matched rate.
Vanderholm also recommends booking on a Sunday, when revenue managers are off and a computer algorithm is in charge of setting prices. Come Monday, he said, the staff may push the rates back up.
For day-of bookings, he said to call the hotel directly and tell the reservationist you noticed their competitors were charging $150 or less. Ask them straight out, “Can you cut me a deal?”
Thanks, Christine.
 
as someone who spent decades in the hotel business, I can gty you the last thing they want to do is cede control/push business to the third party booking sites. I was in a market where rates could change multiple times a day and we controled our rates

this is why I always reccommend to someone that in addition to looking at whatever booking site and the hotel website that they directly call the location they are interested in b/c some will offer much better rates if you book directly (and in my experience both working inside the industry/booking as a customer-more forthcoming with any discounts/deals that may be available). i'm not a fan in general of the the third party sites b/c if there's an issue you're told that you booked with them and have to deal with it vs. dealing directly with the hotel.
 
If someone wants to visit town A and the vendor is in town A they will make sure all 5 star rooms in town A cost the same $$$ so you are captive. I've been seeing the same prices across the board but couldn't quite figure out why empty hotels price like they are full to capacity.
I believe a 5-star hotel will lose its appeal if it is packed to the brim. People who value their space are more likely to pay a higher price to keep it that way.
 


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