Holiday Drama! woo hoo!!!

God love my DH, hope springs eternal in his heart that the completely predictable and certain will not happen......yet it always does. I, being the voice of reason, tell him that since the inevitable is indeed inevitable, why don't we just avoid it and save ourself the grief? :confused3 He knows I am right, but continues to have a glimmer of hope....

Last Christmas, his brother, who has long gotten on my one last nerve, pushed me to the edge. In truth, he pushes everyone to the edge on a constant basis, as he has zero social skills and seems intent on being as rude and condescending as possible with every breath he takes. I have endured it for years, mainly for DH's sake. Anyway, BIL had rubbed me the wrong way all day that Christmas by being himself and then, we were invited over to a relative's house who is terminally ill and not long to this earth.

It could well have been the last time we saw Relative. All we had to do was go over and play nice. Be positive, tell entertaining stories, take Relative's mind off the situation and give Relative a happy memory. This relative has fought and maintained a spirit that I can only be in awe of. It was not asking too much of us to behave ourselves during the visit. But nooooooo......BIL had to be his usual self and argue with everyone and try to prove how much smarter he was than anyone in the room. He was obnoxious beyond belief.

When we left, I told DH I was done with BIL. Anyone who cannot behave themselves in the presence of a dying relative and act nice is someone I do not care to spend any more time with. I was ashamed to have been part of the group that visited that night. I felt we had let Relative down in the worst way. DH felt the same and did not argue the point.

Fast forward to this year. MIL was ill and hospitalized for months. At some point, it became clear she was dying. My DH and the other BIL (I love that one to bits) had been the two to take care of her and that BIL had the POA to make health care decisions. Near the end, annoying BIL comes to visit and tries to take over her care. Mind you, he never put forth any effort in the past, but in the end, he wanted to be in charge.

The three of us (DH, nice BIL and me) all wanted to give MIL a larger dose of pain meds, since she could not communicate and let us know if she was in pain. Having been through this with my own mother, I strongly felt that we should leave no room for doubt. She was going to die VERY soon and why be stingy with the meds if there was a chance she might be in pain? Annoying BIL disagreed and insisted she be given the least amount of pain meds the doctor would allow and at intervals as far apart as possible. "That amount is sufficient," he insisted. (HTH did he know? It's not as if MIL told him!) So whenever we'd leave the hospital, he'd change the medical orders and decrease her pain meds. The brothers got tired of fighting him and just gave in. They were simply worn out and couldn't fight any longer.

I was livid. I still am. It was all a power trip to him. He took a position opposite the three of us and gave her a tiny amount of meds just to show he could win the argument, IMHO. He used his mother as a weapon to bully his brothers, just as he's bullied them his entire life. I don't think he gave a *^%$ if she suffered. I do not know if I can ever forgive that. My MIL may have been a PITA at times, but she deserved better treatment from her child than she got. I was a stronger advocate for her than he was, simply because she was my husband's mother and it was her due.

So I have told DH I won't spend any more holidays with BIL. He can fly in, but he's staying elsewhere. I told DH to face facts......If BIL comes to our house, he will be a ******* as usual and I don't have it in me to let that pass. I will give it right back to him and it will be on. So why bother? Why not just avoid the whole thing by not having him over? DH cannot bring himself to say, "Brother, you are an obnoxious jerk and you need to shut up." I cannot bring myself to NOT say it. :lmao:

HAPPY HOLIDAYS!
 
I feel spoiled. I married an orphan, so I've never had the "in-law" problems. I am one of eight children & all but one live within an hour's drive of me. I'm trying to be a good MIL, but it's not easy! Of course, I want my sons here, along with my DDILs, but I also recognize that they have families to visit with on the other side. Even my married sibs either don't have in-laws, or they see them at an alternate time. Like I said, I'm spoiled!
 
My husband and I were married Dec. 26, 1981. My mom is still not over the fact that we married the day after Christmas.:)

Don't get me wrong...I am thrilled that she is getting married during the Christmas season. It is a beautiful time of the year, has always been one of her favorite times of the year, works for his grad school schedule and job and also for her job.

It's just that when you add the most annoying relative at the most stressful time of year and add another stressful event like a wedding...oh there will be fireworks, I am quite sure.
 
Discussing Thanksgiving last night with my mom I can already tell there's going to be at least some drama. :rolleyes:
 

We don't usually have drama. BUT

This is the first year with 2 dil's and with 1 grandchild. Dil #1 is very jealous of dd(11) and ds (the father of the grandchild) and I am expecting some jealousy of the mother of dgd. So, we will see.
 
Haven't read through it all, but I just gotta say, ME LIKEY THIS THREAD!! :thumbsup2

So, I'm poppin a squat and joinin you all. And you can betcha I'll have some doozy stories to tell...the storms already a brewin'. popcorn::
 
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The only drama here was my husband's reaction when I suggested we have a couple stuffed rotisserie chickens on the grill rather than a turkey. He looked at me like I had a 3rd eye. Oh well, I tried. :lmao: As always, holidays around here are calm. No drama. If you want to come to my house, do so, but leave the tension at your own house. I intend to cook my meal, socialize, eat, and be done with the festivities.
 
It is nice to hear that my family is not the only one crazy

I like the talk about Thanksgiving. For the last couple of years by the time I sit down to Thanksgiving and Christmas dinner I am too tired to eat. I spend the morning cooking in my home which is nice but then I have to pack it all up and bring it my in laws. (my inlaws have a stove that is broken and they have never had it replaced and it is going on 5 years) It also helps that we eat at 2 (if it is not 2 then fil starts to yell (yes yell)) and by 3:30 we are on our way home. If I didn't bring a dessert to Easter last year there would have been no dessert or they would have gone out early Easter Sunday morning to buy one.

Last Thanksgiving we went to my folks house for dinner since it was also my mother's birthday. It was suggested that we order in so that mom didn't have to cook but someone said no to that but that person was at mom's house at 8am cooking so I have no problem with that.

My mom wanted a pool party so she rented a couple of rooms at a local hotel with an indoor pool. We were all there except my sister T. WHen someone called her she then told my mom that she wasn't coming for dinner:confused3:confused3 but would meet us at the pool. She and her daughter came late with no dh. Her daughter got in the pool but would not play with the rest of the cousins (mom provided water pistols for everyone). We went up to the rooms to get changed my sister T almost didn't come up to say good bye to mom. The people downstairs like dad and my sister C had to TALK her into saying good bye.

When we got home to eat we had to scramble to take the 3 extra seats away so mom wouldn't notice they weren't there but we know that she was upset.
 
My drama started a few weeks ago-I posted about it. My sister wants our kids to wait to celebrate Christmas until the Sunday after Christmas because they will be at her in-laws celebrating Christmas there and doesn't want to be an "afterthought" to our family Celebration at my Dad and Step-Moms. She honestly thinks we should just sit around on Christmas and do nothing while they are having Christmas with her in-laws :lmao:. My kids will get up on Christmas morning, as is our tradition, and open their presents. When my sister finally gets there, they can exchange their presents with their cousins.

On Dh's side the only "drama" is that his brother has been fishing to host the family celebration (which is the week before Christmas) but they are the only ones in the family that want to have it at their house--first, they are the farthest away from the family, there is NOTHING for the kids to do at their house. They have cement and wood floors all over their house so it ECHOs horribly and with 13 kids and 14 adults, NO WAY and they don't use their heat so their house is FREEZING all the time (they keep it set at 60°). :scared1:
 
I live 3500 miles from home, not going home for Thanksgiving. I was told I was going home for Christmas, but that might not happen now. On well, what's another year of spending Christmas alone while the rest of your family is home?
 
My sister will be in the weekend before Thanksgiving-late Sat thru Monday. So we figure Sunday lunch is the perfect time for a meal. Cant got our two brothers to even respond to a round robin meal idea/time email we're doing. Wont tell us if that's a good time, what our menu should be-or should we dine out...etc:sad2:
 
We usually don't have much drama, just a lot of general dysfunction. Annoying yet amusing at the same time.
 
I live 3500 miles from home, not going home for Thanksgiving. I was told I was going home for Christmas, but that might not happen now. On well, what's another year of spending Christmas alone while the rest of your family is home?
Why can't they come to you? It's not like the location is a hardship! I'd roadtrip to my child if they were living in St. Croix any day of the week. :thumbsup2
 
I realized last night that there may be some minor drama from my kids ( 9 and 13) . We will probably go to my inlaws for Thanksgiving--FIL is an amazing cook and we all love everything he makes, and he loves to cook for us. But he HATES turkey. In fact he hates most everything that is "traditional" to Thanksgiving. He made a full Turkey and trimmings last year but has said he won't this year.

No problem as far as DH and I are concerned, but the girls were talking about looking forward to Thanksgiving and turkey and green bean cassarole and everything else. I will plan to make a full turkey dinner either before or after Thanksgiving for us at home, I just hope that they aren't upset that they have someting else on the actual day of Thanksgiving. They can both put on a good sulk and it would be unfortunate if they had to spend dinner sitting in their rooms!
 
I realized last night that there may be some minor drama from my kids ( 9 and 13) . We will probably go to my inlaws for Thanksgiving--FIL is an amazing cook and we all love everything he makes, and he loves to cook for us. But he HATES turkey. In fact he hates most everything that is "traditional" to Thanksgiving. He made a full Turkey and trimmings last year but has said he won't this year.

No problem as far as DH and I are concerned, but the girls were talking about looking forward to Thanksgiving and turkey and green bean cassarole and everything else. I will plan to make a full turkey dinner either before or after Thanksgiving for us at home, I just hope that they aren't upset that they have someting else on the actual day of Thanksgiving. They can both put on a good sulk and it would be unfortunate if they had to spend dinner sitting in their rooms!

My daughter almost didn't want to go to WDW because she'd miss my mom's turkey. Luckily, I was able to book an ADR at her favorite restaurant, the Sci Fi for Thanksgiving. Mom said she's make the turkey again for Christmas too. :)
 
God love my DH, hope springs eternal in his heart that the completely predictable and certain will not happen......yet it always does. I, being the voice of reason, tell him that since the inevitable is indeed inevitable, why don't we just avoid it and save ourself the grief? :confused3 He knows I am right, but continues to have a glimmer of hope....

Last Christmas, his brother, who has long gotten on my one last nerve, pushed me to the edge. In truth, he pushes everyone to the edge on a constant basis, as he has zero social skills and seems intent on being as rude and condescending as possible with every breath he takes. I have endured it for years, mainly for DH's sake. Anyway, BIL had rubbed me the wrong way all day that Christmas by being himself and then, we were invited over to a relative's house who is terminally ill and not long to this earth.

It could well have been the last time we saw Relative. All we had to do was go over and play nice. Be positive, tell entertaining stories, take Relative's mind off the situation and give Relative a happy memory. This relative has fought and maintained a spirit that I can only be in awe of. It was not asking too much of us to behave ourselves during the visit. But nooooooo......BIL had to be his usual self and argue with everyone and try to prove how much smarter he was than anyone in the room. He was obnoxious beyond belief.

When we left, I told DH I was done with BIL. Anyone who cannot behave themselves in the presence of a dying relative and act nice is someone I do not care to spend any more time with. I was ashamed to have been part of the group that visited that night. I felt we had let Relative down in the worst way. DH felt the same and did not argue the point.

Fast forward to this year. MIL was ill and hospitalized for months. At some point, it became clear she was dying. My DH and the other BIL (I love that one to bits) had been the two to take care of her and that BIL had the POA to make health care decisions. Near the end, annoying BIL comes to visit and tries to take over her care. Mind you, he never put forth any effort in the past, but in the end, he wanted to be in charge.

The three of us (DH, nice BIL and me) all wanted to give MIL a larger dose of pain meds, since she could not communicate and let us know if she was in pain. Having been through this with my own mother, I strongly felt that we should leave no room for doubt. She was going to die VERY soon and why be stingy with the meds if there was a chance she might be in pain? Annoying BIL disagreed and insisted she be given the least amount of pain meds the doctor would allow and at intervals as far apart as possible. "That amount is sufficient," he insisted. (HTH did he know? It's not as if MIL told him!) So whenever we'd leave the hospital, he'd change the medical orders and decrease her pain meds. The brothers got tired of fighting him and just gave in. They were simply worn out and couldn't fight any longer.

I was livid. I still am. It was all a power trip to him. He took a position opposite the three of us and gave her a tiny amount of meds just to show he could win the argument, IMHO. He used his mother as a weapon to bully his brothers, just as he's bullied them his entire life. I don't think he gave a *^%$ if she suffered. I do not know if I can ever forgive that. My MIL may have been a PITA at times, but she deserved better treatment from her child than she got. I was a stronger advocate for her than he was, simply because she was my husband's mother and it was her due.

So I have told DH I won't spend any more holidays with BIL. He can fly in, but he's staying elsewhere. I told DH to face facts......If BIL comes to our house, he will be a ******* as usual and I don't have it in me to let that pass. I will give it right back to him and it will be on. So why bother? Why not just avoid the whole thing by not having him over? DH cannot bring himself to say, "Brother, you are an obnoxious jerk and you need to shut up." I cannot bring myself to NOT say it. :lmao:

HAPPY HOLIDAYS!

Thanks for the story! It's good to know that I am not the only one who has a BIL that behaves in the same fashion.

Happy Holidays back atcha:thumbsup2
 
Drama here already. Our house is almost done with the remodel and I asked last year if I could have Christmas at my house this year( first year since 2003) the house is 10x bigger than everyone else's and this way the kids ( mine and my sisters) could play in the toy room or in the kids room and not have squish in a tiny living room. My family seems fine with it but I was informed from my MIL that Christmas was going to be at hubby's aunts because his cousin will be here with her 2 year old twins and its easier for her to have it there( so they can nap) I told hubby to tell his mom we would see everyone at Christmas Eve ( she always does xmas eve) but we were staying home on christmas day this year. Anyone who wants to can come here( to visit or for dinner) but we are staying home...Of course Hubby is upset because he is going to hear it from his mom...
 
Aren't the holidays a hoot?!;) I have already heard some rumblings but I am ignoring them for now. I am great for that. :cutie: It never ceases to amaze me how bent out of shape families get about a simple dinner! That is all it is! It is no different than me having the whole family over for Sunday dinner (which we do often enough) yet call it Christmas, Thanksgiving, or whatever you celebrate and there is always some family member who has the pout on. Someone always feels slighted, insulted, annoyed, or just plain cranky. Why is that?!:confused: It is like one big power struggle for the roughly 3 dinners a year that are "Holidays". So ridiculous.
 
Why can't they come to you? It's not like the location is a hardship! I'd roadtrip to my child if they were living in St. Croix any day of the week. :thumbsup2

Very expensive from California and my dad is too sick to travel.
 














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