Holding a place in line?

[dnamertz]

MHO .. a line is a line. Period.

M&G or a RIDE … no difference.

Not true. To me, this M&G example is no different than people savings spots for Fantasmic. It doesn't make my wait any longer. Should I be upset if I see people come sit on the blanket that was saving their spot just before Fantasmic starts? Why should they wait like everyone else?

Exactly and as you should be annoyed.

You should be annoyed? No offense but this sounds like someone looking to be annoyed.

It is upsetting to those that do as they are suppose to; WAIT IN LINE

I wait in line, and it doesn't upset me. Why specifically does it upset you if it doesn't make your wait any longer?

 

[srferson]

Anyone else think Fast Passes would solve all this debate?

I was thinking the same thing. It's a shame that a child should have to stand in a line for 2 hours to meet a character. I understand that's the way it is, but I'd think they could figure out some sort of reservation/appointment/fastpass kind of arrangement.

(BTW, I do not have children. So me thinking it's a shame is not because I don't want my little one to have to wait. I think kids should learn to wait their turn and practice patience, but I think there gets to a point where it's a little unreasonable.)

 

[Marthasor]

OP back. Thanks everyone for your thoughts. I advised my friend (the dad) to ask the CM at the entrance to the M&G if acting as the place holder was ok. He doesn't want to cause any problems or break any Disney rules, so he is going to play it as the CM advises.

We live on the East Coast and go to WDW often (had the pleasure of going to DL for the first time in February!) and see that WDW HAS implemented FP for the Mickey and the Princess M&G. With lines 2 hours long to see Rapunzel in DL, perhaps they will consider implementing FP there as well!

 

[bakerudall]

That would be perfect. I could have someone go get the FP's while I hold their place in the FP return line (just kidding).

To me, this M&G example is no different than people savings spots for Fantasmic. It doesn't make my wait any longer. Should I be upset if I see people come sit on the blanket that was saving their spot just before Fantasmic starts? Why should they wait like everyone else?

Excellent analogy!

You should be annoyed? No offense but this sounds like someone looking to be annoyed.

Solid analysis.

I wait in line, and it doesn't upset me. Why specifically does it upset you if it doesn't make your wait any longer?

Are you suggesting that logic should regulate emotion? Genius!

OP--good call on asking the CM. Can't argue with that.

 

[Reddy]

I also think it depends on what kind of line it is - do you have to "push" your way thur or is it open air where you can walk up to the parent holding the spot

I would be very mad at the ones where you have to push your way thur

 

[jilld11]

I also think it depends on what kind of line it is - do you have to "push" your way thur or is it open air where you can walk up to the parent holding the spot

I would be very mad at the ones where you have to push your way thur

That seems fair. If a DH wants to see his DD and he didn't wait, if he could just walk up that is one thing. But if one parent stood in line that had a line you had to puch sthrough and came with all 3 of her kids (for example) that would be annoying. I think it comes down to manners. How would you expect the people in front of you to act?? I wouldn't have my DH push himself through the line, if he wanted to see her, he could wait, if not, him and DS could do other things and he could look at the pictures and hear all about it from DD.

 

[nana50]

MHO .. a line is a line. Period.

M&G or a RIDE … no difference.

People do not like line jumpers. I see it often. It sets up for the people BEHIND the line jumper to be very aggravated.

NOW if DISNEY had a DISCLAIMER during an M&G that states LINE JUMPING IS APPROVED HERE … then by all means go for it and those waiting will see the sign and realize this is ALLOWABLE.

What are the CHANCES DL will be putting up those signs ANYTIME soon?

You mentioned you are at DL all the time, so it may not be a big deal for you. Someone who is making a rare visit or trip doesn't really have the luxury of wasting 2 hours waiting for a meet and greet. As much as I HATE line jumpers, this does not bother me, because it won't slow down your wait.

 

[cp11]

I find this topic interesting, as I have bladder issues and find it hard to stand in line anything over an hr or an hr and a half tops. Then it seems if I go, always someone else from my party always has to go also. I feel horrible getting out of line and then back in line because of all of the dirty looks.

I did receive advice from a CM on the way to handle it but I feel guilty using my bladder issue to get special privileges, even though everyone in my party thinks it's great. I think though after reading this whole thread I will take the CM's advice next trip and use what we affectionately now call my "potty pass" thought it's embarassing to me! But it will save everyone in line getting ticked off at us, I guess.

 

[pixiewings71]

Here we go again .. again

If you don't like these topics why do you open them? Just stay out. you know this topic will be one that never goes away.

To digress just a bit...
When we go this summer, I know the lines for CarsLand will be very long.
We have 5 adults in our group and two kids who will be riding.
We are planning to take turns standing with the kids, but then only one adult will ride with them.
I am hoping no one will complain when we change out the adult; we plan to explain to the folks in line behind us what we are doing.

I don't think you need to explain at all, but I do think you might want to rethink. Please consider the queue when planning this strategy, some are very tight and difficult to get through, if CL queues are anything like FL queues this will be very intrusive and rude to others in line. I do wonder why 4 of the 5 adults won't be riding tho, I'm an adult and cannot wait to ride the CL rides!


IMO a M&G line is slightly different from a ride line. If I'm in line with my DD12 and DD15 comes up to do the M&G it shouldn't make a difference, they are the only 2 doing the M&G, I'm just taking pictures.
If it's a ride line and DD15 comes up to us then I'd either feel like I had to miss the ride or we were "line cutting", unless we could all ride in the same car. Our family rule is that we wait in line together, we have made only 1 or 2 exceptions to this rule over the years, one being the Rapunzel M&G, I waited in line with DD12, DBF went to pin trade, DD15 went on a FP run, the posted wait time was 90 minutes, 40 minutes later we were at the front of the line. DD15 barely made it back in time and she asked the CM if she could go in with us or if she should wait again. The CM said that because it wouldn't disrupt the line she could meet us, it didn't delay anything (DD15 doesn't do autograph books anymore and the photos we did were of them together so it honestly added no time to our given few minutes) and no one seemed to care. I did tell the people right behind us we were waiting for her to join us so maybe that helped, but everyone was fine with it. The family right behind us had 3 people in line and then suddenly they had 6, but the boys didn't want to do photos with Rapunzel, they were just waiting with Mom, Dad and their sisters.

 

[DanT]

wait a minute....getting there.....
.............and there it is...........Bingo.

 

[JadeDarkstar]

well I jumpped in the m&g with my son but i did wiat in line with him. Tho it never took long for an extra photo. I still dont see it as a big deal and saw many ppl holding lines for all rides M&g and shows and just go along with it. If you are looking for a reason to be upset then you will be, but if you are going for a fun time with your friends or family dont care what the others think how they look at you or what not.

I only got mad one time really and that was the cassy Jr train incdent, even the bathroom lady being rude and the kids trying get in front of my F seats wasnt angry i jsut got annoyed slightly.

I tried hard not to let others mess my trip up even my own mom or dad or any of the number of things that happened with them (I know if i go with them it weont always be perfect, we have to stop for smoke brakes to offten, my mom will drink our pepsi (one thing dh got annoyed last day in park about was she drunk our last one) (that they ate all the pizza, dh got one piece out two boxs)
But i also cherish the time we get to spend with them.

I lost my real dad to early forr me. and I worried about my steap dad after two heart attacks.
I am glade he stayed in the room instead of trying to force him self where he could have gotten worse just to spend days with us in the park.

We still had a good time and im sure so will you all just ignor the trouble makers, the dirty looks and do what you must for your family. I for one would move to let you get back in line as long as one family member is standing there.

Maybe thats just me but its not cutting if you have one member holding it for you.

I have also seen and done this my self. One mother a kid, and she has to go to the bathroom and is so close. I offered to hold her spot for her, she ran did bathroom brake and came back. I for one see no reason not to be helpful when you can.

Ok ill hop out i know its a hot button issue have fun all

 

[Briarrose1306]

When it comes to the M&G and small children (under 5) I would almost prefer that one parent wait and then the child come when they are closer to end. I am an adult female with no children that waits to get pictures with the princesses and would probably have a much nicer wait if there weren't kids bumping into me, swinging on the chains or screaming their heads off because they had to wait in an hour plus line. That being said, older children and especially adults should wait in line, it's a pain and annoying but that's how it goes.

Alternatively, for rides, I don't care how old the child is, if they're taking up a seat, then they should have to wait in line. I'd love to ride the FL rides a lot more than I do, but I can only handle so many parents who one waits in line and then right before they get on here comes the other parent with 2-5 kids, their time isn't any more valuable than mine.

 

[DizFan13]

Yes, it's a VERY hot-button issue here on DIS.

The very simple answer to your question is that there is no general agreement on line-waiting etiquette. Assess the situation and do what you feel is appropriate and what you would want the person in front of you to do.

- Dreams

M&Gs do seem a bit different to me. The only line jumping that I find truly irritating is at rope drop, when one member of the family blasts by everyone, breaks into a run, gets in line, and then their various family members straggle in and push their way through the line to the one family member who rushed. Our rule for rope drop is the family is only as fast as the slowest person.