Historic Ratatouille 'sell outs' to use for Guardians predictions

That could work, calling them before park open might help with the idea that tickets expire that day.
No need to call...if you don't use the ticket that day, you will simply have a credit for future use. Keep your ticket confirmation number.

We bought one day tickets for Jan 2021 prior to covid changing our plans. I cancelled the park reservation so someone else could use it but the tickets just sat unused until I reactivated them for our trip next month. All I needed was the confirmation from the Jan 2021 purchase
 
And getting a boarding group doesn't even guarantee you get to ride, correct? If you get a late BG, they might not get to your group?
Correct. Or if the ride breaks down, you have to come back later. We had that happen our first time on Remy. It had broken down and the VQ line had backed up to the restrooms. they stopped calling VQ groups for at least 30 minutes until the line was shorter.
 
We are traveling the week after Thanksgiving and I wasnt planning on going to Epcot this trip. Of course, DS7 saw the YouTube videos of guardians and said we have to go. I am following this thread to see how hard it is to get the ILL. I really don’t want to get stuck going to Epcot for a day if we can’t get on the ride.
 

Does anyone remember how often Ratatouille sold out/closed to riders when it was using a virtual queue in the first year? I'm hoping historic 'sell out' data from Ratatouille will help me predict how Guardians might be when we get there at the end of September.

We're considering a day at EPCOT just to ride Guardians. That would be the whole point of the ticket - there's nothing else we want to do in the park. I don't want to spend several hundred dollars to get tickets and make reservations if there's a chance we'll miss a spot in the virtual queue at 7am day of.

A few notes that might helpful: we're in town for a very limited time before a cruise. We would arrive at the hotel after midnight, go to EPCOT the next morning, and then go to the cruise the next day. I'm considering a park hopper so we could do other parks, but there's nothing new. Also we just went a few months back so there's no huge draw for us to go see old favorites.

If someone has a magic way to be sure I'll get on Guardians when I go at the end of September, I'd love to hear it.
They are 2 very different attractions I would not use historical data for one to plan for the other. For one thing I think Guardian has a much wider audience.
If you want to spend a day at Disney I would pick a park where you can definitely get to enjoy what you want for the whole day. If you do have the day perhaps buy hoppers go somewhere else first part of day while trying to line up Guardian for the latter.
 
They are 2 very different attractions I would not use historical data for one to plan for the other. For one thing I think Guardian has a much wider audience.
If you want to spend a day at Disney I would pick a park where you can definitely get to enjoy what you want for the whole day. If you do have the day perhaps buy hoppers go somewhere else first part of day while trying to line up Guardian for the latter.

But without an Epcot park reservation, you can't get in a VQ. So you have to commit to an EPCOT morning entry before hopping somewhere else at 2. I'm trying to decide too if that's worth it. Park reservations are definitely a change for the worse.

eta: maybe this isn't the case for paid Lightning Lane, I have never bought them.
 
if you have hopping capability, you can book ILL after 2 pm if your reserved park is not Epcot.
 
I also only have a one-day park ticket for October, the same day as our party tickets for MNSSHP. I think we'll be able to get a ILL if the app doesn't glitch out, but I'm concerned we'll only get a late afternoon slot and we want to hop to MK for the party at no later than 4 or 5. I hate ILL and Genie+ so much, especially the fact that your time slot isn't even reserved when you first tap on it until you check out.
 
I'm hopeful that Disney saw the crazy stuff that happened with ROTR that they'll change a few things. I saw that they are limiting to one ride a day. I'm also hopeful that with blocking some AP that the infrequent traveler has a bit better odds of riding (hearing AP holders boast of riding Rise X times was infuriating!)
 
I'd be happy to buy a ILL and I'm willing to get to at 6:45 to do it, I'm just worried that I'll buy the park tickets, get up early, and still face a sell out where I can't buy an ILL.
This is my concern as well. I was discussing the same thing with my husband. We decided to add one park day to our trip that was mainly to swim and do MNSSHP, only so that we could ride Guardians. I am so torn between if I should just purchase ILL or try for the VQ. I tried for VQ two times for ROTR, and was successful both times. With Remy, I just started by purchasing ILL.

I think I am just going to purchase the ILL, and if the ride would go down and we couldn't ride, then we would have a LL to use at another attraction and we would probably just hop to HS and use it there.
 
I'm hopeful that Disney saw the crazy stuff that happened with ROTR that they'll change a few things. I saw that they are limiting to one ride a day. I'm also hopeful that with blocking some AP that the infrequent traveler has a bit better odds of riding (hearing AP holders boast of riding Rise X times was infuriating!)
Um... How about no.. just because folks get to go more and have more chances doesn't mean it's not fair. Also alot of APs including myself and my husband are from out of state. We get AP due to going more than 12 days a year.
 
Hopefully Disney has done a better job designing adequate capacity into the rides that will be opening shortly. Obviously, when a major new ride opens, it tends to be a big draw. However, that Star Wars ride was sold out for the entire day within a few minutes of the park opening. If that keeps happening several months later, then clearly the ride was designed with insufficient capacity.
Spoiler Alert: They haven't.
This is a bit of a pet peeve for me.

It's literally impossible to design every ride to have major capacity.

Any roller coaster you make, regardless of design, is going to have a lower capacity than an omnimover attraction, for example. The loading time takes longer on a roller coaster simply because of the safety features (ie, restraints) necessary for the ride to exist - which you don't have or need on an omnimover attraction.

ROTR, for example, would also be higher capacity if it didn't need its safety features. However, without them, you'd lose several of the highlight features of the ride (mini-spoiler example: the escape pod).

If Guardians were high-capacity, it wouldn't be a roller coaster. It'd be the Peoplemover, Small World, or Carousel of Progress.

With Guardians, they did the best they could under the circumstances: the ride includes two loading bays, which allows them to send trains into the ride alternately, allowing for potentially twice the capacity than a standard coaster (read: Six Flags, Cedar Fair) would have.
 
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