Hillary Supporters unite part 2; no bashing please

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I am not sure if you guys read any OS posts:duck: , but this one is not meant to make you change your minds about anything...it is a neat website I found which posts people's dreams they had about all three candidates....it's just funny reading.:hippie: At the home page just click on the candidate you want to read about.:banana:

http://www.metaphysicalpoll.com/
 
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Why does he need to validate himself, by constantly bringing up his grandfather being a WWII vet??????????? As if that makes him 'special"

99% of all Americans in their 30's-70's Fathers & Grandfathers were WWII Vets!

Heck my father was a WW2 & Korean War Navy Vet...and went to the North Pole with Admiral Byrd....CAN I BE PRESIDENT TOO?...Can I? Plllleeease!
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YEAH!!!! VOTE FOR DISUNC!!!! :banana:
 
I disagree.

ETA: I'm sorry not enough coffee! I thought you wrote everyone would be happy! lol

Oh well my objection still stands! Obama was not required to pull his name from the ballot. He chose to do so for 2 reasons:

-He was behind by 20 points in Michigan
-He was trying to curry favor with Iowa

In addition:

-It was spread far and wide that anyone who wanted to vote for Obama (and Edwards, Richardson, and Biden) should all vote undeclared/ undecided.

So, as far as I'm concerned the only reasonable solution is to give Obama 1/4 of the undeclared/undecided votes. That's an accurate reflexion of what all the polls including Obama's own polls were telling him the outcome would have been.

Thanks for the info on that priest Disunc. Obama's got one heck of a crew when it comes to Spiritual advisor's. Says a lot about how he calibrates his moral compass

As for the death camp mistake, yes it's a stupid mistake. But its sloppy.

Obama was trailing Edwards in Michigan IIRC and those "undeclared" votes were for everyone else, so I do agree with you in principle, but that's what compromises are-everyone loses. ;)

As far as spiritual advisers, I really think that Obama's only spirituality lies with getting elected. That's all he is interested in and everything else is hogwash. Now, I do believe that Michelle really buys into these nasty people's ideas.
 

[QUOTE="Got Disney";25395585]I am so dishearten about this whole election. Pelosi telling the SD they need to make there choice and end this know...that we do not want to go to the convention. How dare she tell them to do that.....I did not like this woman when she was picked to be speaker and I dont like her know.

If the DNC wants Obama they can have him and when they loose the election they have no one to blame but themselves. I honestly feel that the 52% of HS will not vote for Obama....I just became one of them today. so the % went up. I am sure that I am not the only one that has finally made there decision after this REV in his church also.

CNN is making it out as well no big deal again he apologized....:rotfl2: not one that I heard defended Hillary. I talked with my friend who has been on the fence as me...and he said he will not vote Obama either after this fiesco.

He sure has a lot of friends by guilt of association doesnt he....::yes::[/QUOTE]

Add me to the list that will NEVER vote for Obama.

YES, I will vote for McCain just to vote AGAINST Obama! No way do I want him stepping a foot in the White House!
He is too shady and will do and say anything to feed his already big ego!

I say let the DNC have their Obama. We will see what happens come November when Obama CAN NOT deliver the Democats the White House! :headache:
 
That list grading Obama and McCain is interesting. I wonder how accurate it is though. For one thing, I found McCain's environmental policy surprisingly progressive. I don't know about the -0- grade.
 
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That list grading Obama and McCain is interesting. I wonder how accurate it is though. For one thing, I found McCain's environmental policy surprisingly progressive. I don't know about the -0- grade.

McCains 'lifetime' legislative score is 24; his score for year 2007 is 0.

Obama's 'lifetime' score is listed at 82. his score for 2007 is 67.

(apparently everyone's score is down in 2007)...

They go into some detail, if it's a matter of interest, on their website...


sorry for the interruption....


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Just playin' around. This season definitely needs more humor. :thumbsup2

Now about DisUnc, do we know where he stands on refillable mugs and pool hopping. Let's get to the important issues. :banana:

DISUNC, please post you platform. We need to make this decision by June 1st or Nancy Pelosi will be mad at us. :goodvibes
 
Just playin' around. This season definitely needs more humor. :thumbsup2

Now about DisUnc, do we know where he stands on refillable mugs and pool hopping. Let's get to the important issues. :banana:


There definitely needs to be some clarification on these issues! I'd vote for him anyway though...

Mary
 
There definitely needs to be some clarification on these issues! I'd vote for him anyway though...

Mary

You can't just vote on personality. Issues matter. Even if DISUNC is untrustworthy and associates with lowlife "spiritual advisers" his stands on the issues are all that matter. :thumbsup2
 
You can't just vote on personality. Issues matter. Even if DISUNC is untrustworthy and associates with lowlife "spiritual advisers" his stands on the issues are all that matter. :thumbsup2

Then I think we had better get that clarification on the pool hopping and refillable mugs after all. We wouldn't want any October surprises. :rotfl:

Mary
 
I was really excited when Pelosi became Speaker of the House, but I have been disappointed in her. She is not as aggressive as I had hoped she would be and allowed the Bush administration to still call the shots. I know that we Dems don't have a big enough majority, etc, etc but I guess I hoped for a bigger fight.

As for "how dare she" argument ... she can "dare" as the Speaker of House. She and Harry Ried are the two most powerful Democrats in office. Part of their job is to tell other Dems what to do. {{shrug}} I guess I don't understand the outrage.

In addition, I agree with her. After this weekend's meeting of the Rules Committee and the final elections it is time for the SD for make their decision. I do not want this to go to the convention. The nominee (Obama probably) will need the summer to campaign against McCain.

Now, as for the MI and FL delegations ... Clinton wants all delegates in FL and MI to be seated as elected. Obama wants FL and MI delegates split 50/50. I think a fair compromise on FL and MI would be to seat the FL delegates as elected (as it was an even playing field) and then split the MI delegates 50/50 as Obama was not on the ballot (and no, I don't care why he wasn't on the ballot).

Hi Robin.....by the way have i ever told you that I like your name ::yes:: so as to Pelosi...yes they can do that...but that was not my point it was that she has not declared herself yet for one and also that if every time a candidate wants to take it to the convention some higher up that does not want to says ....no...than where is the Democracy. If Obama gets the delegates and he will...and he has made it to or over the amount than she should drop. But IMO anything can happen(and no i dont mean assassination) up to that point. But that is up to the SD to make there choice. They know what is going on....most are waiting for all the voters have a chance to vote so there voice is heard.

As for MI and FL....I say they have the votes go as is and the Delegates should be split in MI and in Fl she should get the Majority....after all it will not make any difference but all the delegates will be seated and the voters votes for whom they voted for will count.

I will not vote McCain but I sure wont vote for Obama....it's a shame because in the beginning I was happy with both. No longer the case.



Just playin' around. This season definitely needs more humor. :thumbsup2

Now about DisUnc, do we know where he stands on refillable mugs and pool hopping. Let's get to the important issues. :banana:

You mean DIS-UNIC dont ya :rotfl2:

I am off to DL with my DH today...NO KIDS...life is good....I'll tell Mickey you all said "HI"....have a great blessed weekend :thumbsup2
 
[QUOTE="Got Disney";25402860] You mean DIS-UNIC dont ya :rotfl2: [/QUOTE]

:tiptoe: going to edit the original post I'm made calling DISUNC 'DISUNIC' so that he can't blame me for Got Disney's post.....
 
Wow, we're dead tonight.

Did anyone read the article by Geraldine Ferraro?
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/e...05/30/healing_the_wounds_of_democrats_sexism/

Healing the wounds of Democrats' sexism
By Geraldine A. Ferraro
May 30, 2008

LAST YEAR at the beginning of the presidential primary season, Democrats were giddy with excitement. Not only did we have an embarrassment of riches in our candidates but we had two historic candidacies to enjoy. Once and for all our country would show that racism and sexism were not part of our 21st-century DNA.

more stories like thisHere we are at the end of the primary season, and the effects of racism and sexism on the campaign have resulted in a split within the Democratic Party that will not be easy to heal before election day. Perhaps it's because neither the Barack Obama campaign nor the media seem to understand what is at the heart of the anger on the part of women who feel that Hillary Clinton was treated unfairly because she is a woman or what is fueling the concern of Reagan Democrats for whom sexism isn't an issue, but reverse racism is.

The reaction to the questions being raised has been not to listen to the message and try to find out how to deal with the problem, but rather to denigrate the messenger. Sore loser, petty, silly, vengeful are words that have dominated the headlines. But scolding and name calling don't resolve disputes. The truth is that tens of thousands of women have watched how Clinton has been treated and are not happy. We feel that if society can allow sexism to impact a woman's candidacy to deny her the presidency, it sends a direct signal that sexism is OK in all of society.

In response, a group of women - from corporate executives to academics to members of the media - have requested that the Shorenstein Center at Harvard University and others conduct a study, which we will pay for if necessary, to determine three things.

First, whether either the Clinton or Obama campaign engaged in sexism and racism; second, whether the media treated Clinton fairly or unfairly; and third whether certain members of the media crossed an ethical line when they changed the definition of journalist from reporter and commentator to strategist and promoter of a candidate. And if they did to suggest ethical guidelines which the industry might adopt.

That sexism impacted Clinton's campaign, I have no doubt. Did she lose a close election because of sexism? I don't know. But I do know that it will never happen again as long as women are willing to stand up and make sure that it is just a one-time bad experience.

As for Reagan Democrats, how Clinton was treated is not their issue. They are more concerned with how they have been treated. Since March, when I was accused of being racist for a statement I made about the influence of blacks on Obama's historic campaign, people have been stopping me to express a common sentiment: If you're white you can't open your mouth without being accused of being racist. They see Obama's playing the race card throughout the campaign and no one calling him for it as frightening. They're not upset with Obama because he's black; they're upset because they don't expect to be treated fairly because they're white. It's not racism that is driving them, it's racial resentment. And that is enforced because they don't believe he understands them and their problems. That when he said in South Carolina after his victory "Our Time Has Come" they believe he is telling them that their time has passed.

Whom he chooses for his vice president makes no difference to them. That he is pro-choice means little. Learning more about his bio doesn't do it. They don't identify with someone who has gone to Columbia and Harvard Law School and is married to a Princeton-Harvard Law graduate. His experience with an educated single mother and being raised by middle class grandparents is not something they can empathize with. They may lack a formal higher education, but they're not stupid. What they're waiting for is assurance that an Obama administration won't leave them behind.

Hope, change, and inspiration don't do it. A speech on racism might persuade editorial boards, but to these voters it's "just words." Obama has less than six months to make the case.
 
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