Hillary Supporters unite part 2; no bashing please

[Dolce27]

What, you don't understand people not following the leader blindly?

Everyone on this thread had strong reasons for supporting Hillary and not Obama. Those reasons don't just vanish because Hillary is "strongly for Obama".

Each one here has chosen to weight the options and decide for themselves what to do. There are those who will vote Obama, those who will vote McCain and those who will not vote.

The choice is still months away. Most of us here are wating to see how the campaign goes before making a choice.

But I can tell you this, we will come to that choice on our own. Most Hillary supporters believe that to blindly follow a leader, any leader is a scary and dangerous position to take.

Is that kind of thinking hard to understand? Really?

Good post. Valid point.
Most of the OS do not seem to understand this at all. On another board that I frequent the OS keep popping up to post the part of Hillary’s speech where she said to support Obama. They can’t seem to comprehend why we all don’t fall in line like Obama arrogantly thought we’d all do when he received the nomination.

 

[Dolce27]

Hi Hillary friends! Are any of you still around?

I've decided to vote for Obama - but its with reservation - and with no monetary contribution.

This recent article from Huffington Post amused me:

Hi JARNJ3. I can't say that I agree with your decision but I respect it. It has been great knowing you on the Hillary thread.

 

[chobie]

Good post. Valid point.
Most of the OS do not seem to understand this at all. On another board that I frequent the OS keep popping up to post the part of Hillary’s speech where she said to support Obama. They can’t seem to comprehend why we all don’t fall in line like Obama arrogantly thought we’d all do when he received the nomination.

You do know that PeterPirate was an ardant Hillary supporter until the primary was over, right? He has no love for Obama - he's voting on issues.

 

[punkin]

You do know that PeterPirate was an ardant Hillary supporter until the primary was over, right? He has no love for Obama - he's voting on issues.

All of us are voting on issues. You just do not agree with our interpretation of what is an important issue.

Jarnj3 has examined he issues and decided she is voting for Obama. DISUNC has examined the issues and decided to vote for McCain. Neither one of them is wrong. I have not made a decision yet, but your posts don't sway me in either direction.

 

[KikiFan]

I don't understand...You people are strongly for Hillary and now Hillary is strongly for Obama yet most of you are contemplating McCain over Obama which would make Hillary, your choice, very unhappy...

As has been said ad nauseum, McCain is McSame and ANYBODY the dems put forth is ultimately better than him. If you despise bush and what he has done to America then you cannot seriously vote for the doddering old fool who sold his soul and integrity to the devil for this opportunity and will give us four more years of this bs.

Obama, shady or not, is still better than the volitile and clueless McSame.

That's your opinion, and while you're entitled to it, not everyone agrees with you. get over it. It's my vote.

 

[DISUNC]

Jarnj3 has examined he issues and decided she is voting for Obama. DISUNC has examined the issues and decided to vote for McCain. Neither one of them is wrong. I have not made a decision yet, but your posts don't sway me in either direction.

Well maybe Jarn23 is a little more wrong than me!!!!!
We have time....ESPECIALLY since I saw Why she is voting for him on the Obama thread .......We have time to tawk!!!!!

The Supreme Court is the ONE issue I dont have with ANY Presidential candidate. YES the Pres picks who He wants...But Congress MUST APPROVE.
I always saw the SD candidate really a Congressional issue, not a Presidential issue. And I always thought it was odd that this is always a Presidential Campaign thing.

 

["Got Disney"]

I don't understand...You people are strongly for Hillary and now Hillary is strongly for Obama yet most of you are contemplating McCain over Obama which would make Hillary, your choice, very unhappy...

As has been said ad nauseum, McCain is McSame and ANYBODY the dems put forth is ultimately better than him. If you despise bush and what he has done to America then you cannot seriously vote for the doddering old fool who sold his soul and integrity to the devil for this opportunity and will give us four more years of this bs.

Obama, shady or not, is still better than the volitile and clueless McSame.

Always nice to have thoughts and words like this come into the Hillary thread. You OS hate when McCain supporters call Obama names yet there it is in black and white ......those lovely words.

reading posts like that dont help us say...Hay your right those are the reasons that I was looking for to help me change my mind...that that man is volitile, Mcsame as bush and doddering old fool(who happens to be a war hero that you could never reach) who sold his soul to the devil...

They are great reasons not to vote for someone.

 

[chobie]

All of us are voting on issues. You just do not agree with our interpretation of what is an important issue.

Jarnj3 has examined he issues and decided she is voting for Obama. DISUNC has examined the issues and decided to vote for McCain. Neither one of them is wrong. I have not made a decision yet, but your posts don't sway me in either direction.

I'm not going to fight with you on your thread, I just wanted to make sure that people weren't assuming that PeterPirate was an OS trying to get you to vote for Obama.

And you may all be voting on issues, but there are some of you that have changed what is are important issues to you because Hillary is not the nominee. Which is your right of course... as it is my right to point out that if Hillary was the nominee that would no longer be an issue of concern to you.

 

[Dolce27]

You do know that PeterPirate was an ardant Hillary supporter until the primary was over, right? He has no love for Obama - he's voting on issues.

Not certain the point of your post.
Moon’s post is still valid
My post still stands
Who cares if PeterPirate used to be for Hillary but now for Obama – except, of course, for PeterPirate. That’s his/her choice.
Methinks you’re just looking to attack and didn’t comprehend the point that moon was trying to make and one that I agree with.
It's our choice for who we vote for.
Hillary telling us to support Obama doesn't matter.
The OS bullying us doesn’t matter.
It's our choice.

 

[Dolce27]

I'm not going to fight with you on your thread, I just wanted to make sure that people weren't assuming that PeterPirate was an OS trying to get you to vote for Obama.

And you may all be voting on issues, but there are some of you that have changed what is are important issues to you because Hillary is not the nominee. Which is your right of course... as it is my right to point out that if Hillary was the nominee that would no longer be an issue of concern to you.

If that’s in reference to our little discussion on the Conservatives thread last night – please go and read my last post (made a couple of hours ago) in response to your last post on that topic.

Edited to Add: DISUNC - your post keeps getting shoved down to the bottom. Something's up with that!

 

[chobie]

If that’s in reference to our little discussion on the Conservatives thread last night – please go and read my last post (made a couple of hours ago) in response to your last post on that topic.

Edited to Add: DISUNC - your post keeps getting shoved down to the bottom. Something's up with that!

You last post on that thread confimed what I knew all along. Some HS are now pretending to care or not care about issues to justify voting for McCain. Yes, you can convince yourself of anything you want and vote for a candidate because of that. It's your right. God bless America! Yes, by all means make being anti-abortion a reason to vote for McCain even though Hillary is as pro-choice as they get. That makes perfect sense.

 

[Dolce27]

You last post on that thread confimed what I knew all along. Some HS are now pretending to care or not care about issues to justify voting for McCain. Yes, you can convince yourself of anything you want and vote for a candidate because of that. It's your right. God bless America! Yes, by all means make being anti-abortion a reason to vote for McCain even though Hillary is as pro-choice as they get. That makes perfect sense.

Well, then, since you know me so well .. find a post of me stating that abortion was an important issue with me for voting for Hillary. You can't. What you can find are post of me stating that I was planning to vote Dem for this election after the last 8 years of the Bush Admin but that my overall stances on issues are more right than left.

I don't have to "convince" myself of anything.

Please also note that I don’t have a single post on the now defunct Liberal thread but I had no problem posting on the Conservatives thread because my overall stance on issues fall more inline with theirs.

You can keep on convincing yourself that the HS have to resort to lies and distortion and racism in order to not vote for Obama. Of course there aren’t any real reasons for people to not vote for Obama. Obama is perfect. Obama is great. Obama is going to save the world!

You just keep that up there Chobie.

 

[Duckfan-in-Chicago]

Just keeps getting better and better. I bet Nov. can't come soon enough for Obama.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/a...ving_ground_for_obamas_housing_policy/?page=1

As a state senator, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee coauthored an Illinois law creating a new pool of tax credits for developers. As a US senator, he pressed for increased federal subsidies. And as a presidential candidate, he has campaigned on a promise to create an Affordable Housing Trust Fund that could give developers an estimated $500 million a year.

But a Globe review found that thousands of apartments across Chicago that had been built with local, state, and federal subsidies - including several hundred in Obama's former district - deteriorated so completely that they were no longer habitable.

...

Antoin "Tony" Rezko, perhaps the most important fund-raiser for Obama's early political campaigns and a friend who helped the Obamas buy a home in 2005. Rezko's company used subsidies to rehabilitate more than 1,000 apartments, mostly in and around Obama's district, then refused to manage the units, leaving the buildings to decay to the point where many no longer were habitable.

Campaign finance records show that six prominent developers - including Jarrett, Davis, and Rezko - collectively contributed more than $175,000 to Obama's campaigns over the last decade and raised hundreds of thousands more from other donors. Rezko alone raised at least $200,000, by Obama's own accounting.

 

[DISUNC]

Good post. Valid point.
Most of the OS do not seem to understand this at all. On another board that I frequent the OS keep popping up to post the part of Hillary’s speech where she said to support Obama. They can’t seem to comprehend why we all don’t fall in line like Obama arrogantly thought we’d all do when he received the nomination.

Its all soooooooooooooo flippen Dysfunctional!

 

[DISUNC]

Just keeps getting better and better. I bet Nov. can't come soon enough for Obama.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/a...ving_ground_for_obamas_housing_policy/?page=1

As a state senator, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee coauthored an Illinois law creating a new pool of tax credits for developers. As a US senator, he pressed for increased federal subsidies. And as a presidential candidate, he has campaigned on a promise to create an Affordable Housing Trust Fund that could give developers an estimated $500 million a year.

But a Globe review found that thousands of apartments across Chicago that had been built with local, state, and federal subsidies - including several hundred in Obama's former district - deteriorated so completely that they were no longer habitable.

...

Antoin "Tony" Rezko, perhaps the most important fund-raiser for Obama's early political campaigns and a friend who helped the Obamas buy a home in 2005. Rezko's company used subsidies to rehabilitate more than 1,000 apartments, mostly in and around Obama's district, then refused to manage the units, leaving the buildings to decay to the point where many no longer were habitable.

Campaign finance records show that six prominent developers - including Jarrett, Davis, and Rezko - collectively contributed more than $175,000 to Obama's campaigns over the last decade and raised hundreds of thousands more from other donors. Rezko alone raised at least $200,000, by Obama's own accounting.

And this is from todays Chicago Sun Times

Prosecutors held back on using Obama's name

Barack Obama's name could have been invoked more at the corruption trial of his former fund-raiser Tony Rezko.

But it appears prosecutors opted against bringing Obama into the mix during the two-month trial.

Newly unsealed documents show that prosecutors sought to call witnesses to testify about Rezko's ties to Obama, the presumptive Democratic nominee for president.

The Illinois senator was the recipient of "straw" campaign contributions made by others on behalf of Rezko -- money that Obama has since given to charities.

The documents indicate that prosecutors considered offering witnesses to explore why Rezko used others to contribute to Obama and also to Blagojevich, and U.S. District Judge Amy J. St. Eve ruled that they could. But they did not end up offering any such testimony during the trial.

"Witnesses will testify that Rezko was a long-standing supporter and fund-raiser of Barack Obama," prosecutors wrote.

Later, St. Eve ruled that Obama references would be allowed into the trial, but prosecutors apparently opted not to invoke Obama's name.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/rezko/1027788,CST-NWS-rezkoside27.article

Wont post it on a thread...cause apparently now if you speak ill of OBAMA

, you are not ONLY a racist but Crazy too boot!

 

[Dolce27]

Just keeps getting better and better. I bet Nov. can't come soon enough for Obama.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/a...ving_ground_for_obamas_housing_policy/?page=1

As a state senator, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee coauthored an Illinois law creating a new pool of tax credits for developers. As a US senator, he pressed for increased federal subsidies. And as a presidential candidate, he has campaigned on a promise to create an Affordable Housing Trust Fund that could give developers an estimated $500 million a year.

But a Globe review found that thousands of apartments across Chicago that had been built with local, state, and federal subsidies - including several hundred in Obama's former district - deteriorated so completely that they were no longer habitable.

...

Antoin "Tony" Rezko, perhaps the most important fund-raiser for Obama's early political campaigns and a friend who helped the Obamas buy a home in 2005. Rezko's company used subsidies to rehabilitate more than 1,000 apartments, mostly in and around Obama's district, then refused to manage the units, leaving the buildings to decay to the point where many no longer were habitable.

Campaign finance records show that six prominent developers - including Jarrett, Davis, and Rezko - collectively contributed more than $175,000 to Obama's campaigns over the last decade and raised hundreds of thousands more from other donors. Rezko alone raised at least $200,000, by Obama's own accounting.

Oh, come on Duckfan… of course this type of shady stuff couldn’t have anything at all to do with why some of us refuse to vote for Obama. Didn’t you get the memo – we all have to resort to lies and distortion and racism, as I stated above, for our reasons to not vote for the man. There's nothing shady at all about Obama's relationship with Rezko and the Ayers ... oh, and don't forget about El-Hady.

But if you go and post this in a new thread then LauraJ has to give the Obama campaign 10.00 because this news story will be considered ‘bashing’ Obama.

 

["Got Disney"]

I'm not going to fight with you on your thread, I just wanted to make sure that people weren't assuming that PeterPirate was an OS trying to get you to vote for Obama.

And you may all be voting on issues, but there are some of you that have changed what is are important issues to you because Hillary is not the nominee. Which is your right of course... as it is my right to point out that if Hillary was the nominee that would no longer be an issue of concern to you.

It has nothing to do with Obamas issues...it has to do with Obama....after all this time reading our posts you should have gotten that point already. In every post you make on all the pollitical threads you are refering to Hillary. Get over it......move on.....

Not certain the point of your post.
Moon’s post is still valid
My post still stands
Who cares if PeterPirate used to be for Hillary but now for Obama – except, of course, for PeterPirate. That’s his/her choice.
Methinks you’re just looking to attack and didn’t comprehend the point that moon was trying to make and one that I agree with.
It's our choice for who we vote for.
Hillary telling us to support Obama doesn't matter.
The OS bullying us doesn’t matter.
It's our choice.

You last post on that thread confirmed what I knew all along. Some HS are now pretending to care or not care about issues to justify voting for McCain. Yes, you can convince yourself of anything you want and vote for a candidate because of that. It's your right. God bless America! Yes, by all means make being anti-abortion a reason to vote for McCain even though Hillary is as pro-choice as they get. That makes perfect sense.

the only things that you have confirmed are in your mind.....We care about the issues, we care about the US we care about the people. WE care about change. What we are not sure about is Obama. Some OS are bully's....and some come with insults and bats......we will not move just because you tell us to or that you think we are wrong. WE can make our minds up without the likes of you thank you.

Go Troll somewhere else.

 

[Planogirl]

I'm not going to fight with you on your thread, I just wanted to make sure that people weren't assuming that PeterPirate was an OS trying to get you to vote for Obama.

And you may all be voting on issues, but there are some of you that have changed what is are important issues to you because Hillary is not the nominee. Which is your right of course... as it is my right to point out that if Hillary was the nominee that would no longer be an issue of concern to you.

I know that the Pirate was a Hillary supporter who will now vote for Obama as were a few others who used to come here. And that's fine and I respect their decision. I will likely also vote for Obama because I'm a party faithful but I have respect for many who won't. They are not all Democrats and they won't follow Hillary blindly. I'll do the deed though.

 

[Planogirl]

How did my post get in front of DisUnc's?

 

[Planogirl]

What the heck is going on with the posts? Oh where oh where will this one end up?