Hillary Supporters unite....no bashing please! only smiles

[Hound 109]

She didn't. An aide did.

I think they should put a muzzle of most of the "aides" (i think Wolfeson stated the above).

McAullife (sp) was on Mathews yesterday or today & is a pro.....some of them (like Wolfeson & Penn) may be good back room guys but should stay away from cameras & mikes.

 

[JARNJ3]

There are skeletons everywhere........

Obama cited in Rezko opening statement

By: Kenneth P. Vogel
Mar 6, 2008 04:51 PM EST

CHICAGO — Barack Obama is only a bit player in the federal trial of his former fundraiser and friend Antoin “Tony” Rezko, but it didn’t take long for the name of the Illinois senator and Democratic presidential candidate to be raised in court.

In his opening statement Thursday, Rezko’s lead defense attorney, Joseph Duffy, mentioned Obama and five other politicians in explaining Rezko’s motivation for political involvement.

That involvement, Duffy said, stemmed from Rezko’s affection for the political process and desire to help candidates he believed had the public’s best interest at heart. Duffy said Rezko raised money for the campaigns of Republicans and Democrats alike and expected nothing in return.

The list of those candidates, Duffy said, was too long to read in court, so he just ticked off a few.

Harold Washington, the late Democratic mayor of Chicago, was the first candidate Rezko backed (at the behest of allies of legendary boxer Muhammad Ali, according to Duffy).

Also listed were former Cook County Board President John Stroger, a Democrat; Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.); former Illinois Gov. Jim Edgar, a Republican; current Gov. Rod Blagojevich, a Democrat; and Obama.

Rezko “met Barack Obama when he was in Harvard Law School and tried to hire him” to be the lawyer for Rezko’s development company, the defense attorney said.

Duffy stressed that politics was secondary to business for Rezko, whom he called “a very, very busy man.”

During the years covered in the indictment — 2003 and 2004 — Duffy said Rezko helped organize fundraisers for Obama, President Bush and a Chicago-area hospital.

Prosecutors alleged in pretrial filings that Rezko directed two allies to contribute $10,000 each to a campaign, which contextual clues and Chicago media sources indicate was Obama's 2004 Senate campaign. That $20,000 was part of the more than $150,000 in contributions linked to Rezko that Obama has given to charity.

The prosecution, which offered its opening arguments first, didn’t name Obama and barely mentioned Rezko’s political fundraising. It focused instead on kickbacks it alleges Rezko arranged and received for steering state business from two state boards to which he had ties.

Those boards, for which Rezko recommended allies, are based on a system of trust, said Assistant U.S. Attorney Carrie Hamilton, who delivered the government’s opening statement.

“This is a case about the violation of that trust,” she said.

 

[JARNJ3]

I think they should put a muzzle of most of the "aides" (i think Wolfeson stated the above).

McAullife (sp) was on Mathews yesterday or today & is a pro.....some of them (like Wolfeson & Penn) may be good back room guys but should stay away from cameras & mikes.

Agreed.

 

[Hound 109]

And one of his aids called Hillary "A monster"

It's really getting ugly.

It's childs play Kiki.....wait till the General Election.

 

[KikiFan]

It's childs play Kiki.....wait till the General Election.

Yeah I know it will get worse. The swift boaters are still gathering info.

But it's really disheartening that a candidate is called a monster and the supporters don't seem to think there is anything wrong with that.

 

[DISUNC]

She didn't. An aide did.

Because Obama keeps harping about seeing her Tax returns for 2006. Just like Starr kept on pushing for documents.

For the past 20 years The clintons have made their Tax Returns public, they just "didnt get around" to making 2006 public yet. BTW there is no law stating that a Primary candidate has to do this, Presidential Candidate...YES...But not Primary.

Much ado about nutin.

And one of his aids called Hillary "A monster"

It's really getting ugly.

VERY UGLY!

I wish I had aides who whould go out and call my enemy names. Thats gotta be so cool!

There are skeletons everywhere........

My gut says there is a lot more to the Obama/Rezgo story. Its what we dont know that will hurt us here.

 

[KikiFan]

A friend just sent me this. Has anyone heard about this before? It happened last year. Seems like Obama's camp has some race issues themselves.

Obama calls memo on Clinton a ‘dumb mistake’
Says he didn't know campaign staff referred to his rival as ‘D-Punjab’

NEWTON, Iowa - Democratic presidential contender Barack Obama on Monday disavowed a memo criticizing rival Hillary Rodham Clinton’s financial ties to India, blaming his campaign staff for a “dumb mistake.”

In an interview with The Associated Press, Obama labeled the memo and its headline — “Hillary Clinton (D-Punjab) — as “unnecessarily caustic.” The memo had referred to Bill and Hillary Clintons’ investments in India; her fundraising among Indian-Americans; and the former president’s $300,000 in speech fees from Cisco, a company that has moved U.S. jobs to India.

“It was a dumb mistake on our campaign’s part and I made it clear to my staff in no uncertain terms that it was a mistake,” Obama told the AP in a brief interview.

The memo has created a furor in the Indian-American community and raised questions about Obama’s claims that he is above attack politics epitomized by secretly distributing opposition research about a rival. Placing the blame on his staff is not new. Earlier this year, Obama faulted his staff for comments in a dispute with the Clinton camp over Hollywood donor David Geffen.

Last Thursday, Obama’s campaign sent the memo to reporters, demanding that it not be attributed to their campaign. The Clinton campaign got a copy and sent it to reporters.

“It is not reflective of the long-standing relationship I have had with the Indian-American community,” Obama said in the interview.

“The issue of outsourcing is a genuine and important issue but to refer to one particular country was, I think, an error and I let all of us know that we’ve got to be more careful about how we communicate,” he said.

Takes responsibility for mistake
In a statement on his Web site, Obama said he was not aware of the contents of the memo before it was distributed. The Illinois senator said he was responsible for the mistake and the campaign had taken appropriate action “to prevent errors like this from happening in the future.”

The campaign said the new policy is to ensure that senior staff will review materials before they are distributed publicly.

Obama was campaigning in Iowa on Monday. Stopping in an Iowa town rocked by the closure of a Maytag plant, he called for new efforts to create jobs and end tax subsidies for companies that shift jobs overseas.

"Unneccesarily Caustic"??? That's an understatement. Interestingly, even though Obama apologized the person responsible was not fired.

 

[DISUNC]

A friend just sent me this. Has anyone heard about this before? It happened last year. Seems like Obama's camp has some race issues themselves.




"Unneccesarily Caustic"??? That's an understatement. Interestingly, even though Obama apologized the person responsible was not fired.

"dumb mistake"

"Boneheaded mistake" (in reference to his working for rezco)

Golly gee willickers, Obama seems to make some silly willy mistakes. But it is okey dokey, because he uses cute adjectives to describe them all!

 

[PinkTink63]

I was an Edwards supporter, but the more the media keeps beating on her, the more I want to vote for her! We know she isn't a quitter! Even the liberals are throwing stones! I will definitely voter for the Dem nominee whoever it might be, but I do think Hillary is more qualified!

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

There were plenty of people with jobs and children who attended the caucuses. And plenty of caucuses that went just fine.

The media would have you think that every caucus in Texas was a disaster and that any Hillary supporters were shot on the spot and their bodies tossed in dumpsters but speaking as someone who lives in Texas and spoke with multiple people who attended (different) caucuses, those reports are exaggerated.

I didn't say there were no people with jobs and children there. I said many couldn't go. When a caucus starts at midnight and another ends up in a parking lot, that's a problem. No exaggeration needed.
And the fact remains that the people of Texas declared their intentions 51-48 or thereabouts. And then some people got to then go vote again.
Unless those caucus results also end up coming out 51-48, the caucusses didn't reflect the intent of the people of Texas.

& a voter who attended a caucus had a vote that was worth 3 times what a regular voter was....& if it was in a "super octane" state senate district, it was worth maybe 4-5 times what my 87 y/o mother's vote was worth.

Bingo.

By the way for those interested, I am told that the "Caucus" that Michigan is planning is a caucus in name only. It's going to be a go in, sign up, and drop your vote in the box type deal. The devil is in the details. If there are enough of these sites, if they are open long enough, and if provisions are made for an absentee vote, then I could be ok with that. I cannot vouch for the accuracy of what I've been told. Just passing it on.

 

[Hound 109]

I was an Edwards supporter, but the more the media keeps beating on her, the more I want to vote for her! We know she isn't a quitter! Even the liberals are throwing stones! I will definitely voter for the Dem nominee whoever it might be, but I do think Hillary is more qualified!

PinkTink, so was i. & now support HC for the same reason.

"Tough chicks" are cool.....& get stuff done.


hound <---- cueing up his Joan Jett album to start the day.

 

[KikiFan]

By the way for those interested, I am told that the "Caucus" that Michigan is planning is a caucus in name only. It's going to be a go in, sign up, and drop your vote in the box type deal. The devil is in the details. If there are enough of these sites, if they are open long enough, and if provisions are made for an absentee vote, then I could be ok with that. I cannot vouch for the accuracy of what I've been told. Just passing it on.

Well that's basically what the Texas Caucus was like. I was expecting some debate or discussion of the candidates. (I even had notes in my purse I'm such a geek!) It was nothing like that.

-they check our voter card to make sure we had voted
-we signed a paper declaring out preference
-most of the people then left
-we voted for precinct officers
-they calculated the percentages and how many delegates each candidate earned
-Voted on delegates
-voted on motions
called it a night.


It's interesting how little discussion there is over there about Obama's people calling Hil a monster. I guess that's okay with them.

 

[DisneyMomx7]

I have ask all the Hillary supporters (and yes, I am an Obama supporter) - does it bother you at all how she keeps bring up that both she and McCain have the experience to be Commander in Chief.

If Obama wins the nominations will it rub you at all to hear that soundbite being played for the McCain campaign?

If you a Democrat do you really want the endorsement of someone who is not pro-choice and who went from the straight talk express to the pander to the right to get elected side?

 

[punkin]

I have ask all the Hillary supporters (and yes, I am an Obama supporter) - does it bother you at all how she keeps bring up that both she and McCain have the experience to be Commander in Chief.

If Obama wins the nominations will it rub you at all to hear that soundbite being played for the McCain campaign?

If you a Democrat do you really want the endorsement of someone who is not pro-choice and who went from the straight talk express to the pander to the right to get elected side?

Does it bother you that Obama staffers are calling Hillary a monster? How will you feel when that little tidbit is all over the ads after Hillary gets the nomination?

 

[Chuck S]

I wonder just who, in Texas, we could contact about these caucuses. Really, I do see the need for them from the standpoint of selecting delegates to local, state and national conventions, but I think to actually base how many votes a potential presidential nominee gets on "who" attended those caucuses is ridiculous, considering we had a full vote during the day. The caucuses should be about forming the planks of the party platform, not about changing the vote of the people.

We got home about 9pm, and stayed for the whole thing, but still, no one should be asked to go out again at night, especially the elderly, to make sure their vote counts.

I'd much rather see a closed primary here, where we register Dem, Rep, Ind or whatever and then must vote in that primary, no crossovers possible without re-registering. Other states do this, it works well. In fact, in many states, if you don't vote in a general election, you have to re-register. In Texas, once you register, your registered for life, it seems, unless you move to another address.

 

[NewJersey]

Does it bother you that Obama staffers are calling Hillary a monster? How will you feel when that little tidbit is all over the ads after Hillary gets the nomination?

I have to chime in..

While I think the staffer was way out of line calling her a monster, you are comparing apples to oranges.

Both candidates should be dead set on electing a DEMOCRAT to the White House. When you have one of the candidates repeatedly holding press conferences questioning Barack's fitness to be President, while in the same breath praising McCain's experience and fitness to be President, you have to wonder what she is actually trying to accomplish. A campaign commercial in the fall quoting some Obama staffer calling her a monster pales in comparison to an ad quoting Hillary herself, calling into question Obama's fitness for the Presidency while repeatedly praising McCain.

If she really did care about healthcare, getting us out of Iraq, and a woman's right to choose, she would realize that this specific attack is doing nothing but making McCain stronger for the general election.

 

[Laura]

Does it bother you that Obama staffers are calling Hillary a monster? How will you feel when that little tidbit is all over the ads after Hillary gets the nomination?

It certainly bothers me that Samantha Power said that. She has, rightly, apologized. Everyone really needs to keep their heads right now and not let their frustrations get the best of them.

 

[Fitswimmer]

I have to chime in..

While I think the staffer was way out of line calling her a monster, you are comparing apples to oranges.

Both candidates should be dead set on electing a DEMOCRAT to the White House. When you have one of the candidates repeatedly holding press conferences questioning Barack's fitness to be President, while in the same breath praising McCain's experience and fitness to be President, you have to wonder what she is actually trying to accomplish. A campaign commercial in the fall quoting some Obama staffer calling her a monster pales in comparison to an ad quoting Hillary herself, calling into question Obama's fitness for the Presidency while repeatedly praising McCain.

If she really did care about healthcare, getting us out of Iraq, and a woman's right to choose, she would realize that this specific attack is doing nothing but making McCain stronger for the general election.

Does anyone think that the McCain people aren't making commercials using these nice words Hillary has said? They're going to use her own words against her if she wins the nomination.

I don't understand how praising McCain's fitness to be President fits in with her strategy.

 

[Fitswimmer]

It certainly bothers me that Samantha Power said that. She has, rightly, apologized. Everyone really needs to keep their heads right now and not let their frustrations get the best of them.

Me too. It was a stupid, stupid, stupid thing to do. If I were Obama, I'd be publically all over that.

 

[punkin]

Both candidates should be dead set on electing a DEMOCRAT to the White House.

Interesting, when a lot of people on the Obama thread keep forgetting that.

In any event she is not making McCain stronger. She has him beat on so many levels that admitting that he has experience is not a build up for him. He does have experience and he will tout that in the general. Obama does not have his experience and if he gets to the general he is going to have to deal with that. Why is the Obama crown getting so upset about this line of attack? This is a presidential CONTEST, he cannot expect to have Hillary roll over and play dead for him. If she did, I wouldn't support her.