Hillary Supporters unite....no bashing please! only smiles

["Got Disney"]

Can someone explain to me, why it is acceptable to hold Hillary accountable for her personal relationship with her family, friends, and co-workers...but it is not OK to hold Obama accountable for his 20 year relationship with his "wacky uncle?"

Because for some Obama Love is blind " ...oh and also deaf ...maybe that is little harsh but you get my point.

 

[moon]

dont forget to vote for your Cowardly Lion!

DISUNC, you are so funny!!!

 

[deelam]

Becasue there is - and has been - a serious double standard going on in this election.

I have to agree with you here.

 

["Got Disney"]

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...ial_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll


Daily Presidential Tracking Poll


Thursday, May 01, 2008


The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows that Barack Obama’s former Pastor, Jeremiah Wright, has had a significant impact on the race for the White House.

The news is not good for Obama.

In general election polling John McCain now attracts 46% of the vote while
Barack Obama earns 43%. Just before Wright had his press conference on Monday, McCain and Obama were even.

A week ago, Obama had a two-point edge. McCain is now tied with Hillary Clinton at 44%. A week ago, McCain had a two-point edge over the former First Lady.


Those figures mean that Clinton now outperforms Obama by three points. A week ago, Obama outperformed Clinton by four.

Daily tracking results are updated daily at 9:30 a.m. Eastern Time (see recent daily results). New polling in New Hampshireshows that Clinton has gained ground on McCain in the Granite State while Obama is heading in the opposite direction. That poll also found significant voter concerns about Obama and his former Pastor.


In the race for the Democratic Presidential Nomination, the Wright impact is especially evident. Clinton now has a statistically insignificant two-point edge over Obama, 46% to 44%.

However, that represents a ten-point swing since Wright’s press conference. Before Pastor Wright appeared at the National Press Club, Obama led Clinton by eight points (see recent Democratic Nomination results).

 

["Got Disney"]

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...l_election/indiana/indiana_democratic_primary


Indiana Democratic Primary
Indiana: Clinton 46% Obama 41%

Thursday, May 01, 2008
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/content/tipafriend/10432

Senator Hillary Clinton leads Senator Barack Obama by five percentage points in the Indiana Democratic Presidential Primary. The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of the state finds Clinton attracting 46% of the vote while Obama earns 41%. With just a week to go before Election Day, 13% remain undecided.

 

[punkin]

[QUOTE="Got Disney";24853414]With just a week to go before Election Day, 13% remain undecided.[/QUOTE]

and undecideds tend to break more for her.

 

[Zippa D Doodah]

Hey y'all. I come in peace to ask your insight on today's polling for NC.

Being a political observer, and particularly fascinated by my own state of NC, I note that for the first time Clinton is actually ahead in an NC poll. The RCP composite still shows BO with a 7 point lead, but one of the polls which make up that index shows Clinton with a 2 point lead.

I had though that Clinton was dead in the water in NC, but maybe there is even the slightest chance she could pull a shocker here. What would a win in NC and IN on Tuesday do for her IYO?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/nc/north_carolina_democratic_primary-275.html

(I would ask over on the OS thread but I'm afraid of flying monkeys)

 

[KikiFan]

Well as far as delegates go it's probably going to be a wash. She'll gain a few but not that many.

But where it really helps her is with the Super Delegates. By beating Obama in a state where she was "dead in the water" she proves that a) she's not
b) that Obama has been seriously tarnished by the Wright scandel.

Hillary (and Obama for that matter) will need the Supers to vote for them for either of them to get a clear true majority. If the voters feel like Obama is too damaged or can not win the general for whatever reason they chose - then they've got cover to vote for Hilary.

So basically from her on out for Hillary it's about racking up the popular vote as much as possible, and showing that Obama cannot win the general.

 

[Zippa D Doodah]

Well as far as delegates go it's probably going to be a wash. She'll gain a few but not that many.

But where it really helps her is with the Super Delegates. By beating Obama in a state where she was "dead in the water" she proves that a) she's not
b) that Obama has been seriously tarnished by the Wright scandel.

Hillary (and Obama for that matter) will need the Supers to vote for them for either of them to get a clear true majority. If the voters feel like Obama is too damaged or can not win the general for whatever reason they chose - then they've got cover to vote for Hilary.

So basically from her on out for Hillary it's about racking up the popular vote as much as possible, and showing that Obama cannot win the general.

I'm just amazed that she's pulled so close to Obama. I didn't think the Wright scandal would make much difference among NC Dems and Independents, but apparently it has.

 

["Got Disney"]

Hey y'all. I come in peace to ask your insight on today's polling for NC.

Being a political observer, and particularly fascinated by my own state of NC, I note that for the first time Clinton is actually ahead in an NC poll. The RCP composite still shows BO with a 7 point lead, but one of the polls which make up that index shows Clinton with a 2 point lead.

I had though that Clinton was dead in the water in NC, but maybe there is even the slightest chance she could pull a shocker here. What would a win in NC and IN on Tuesday do for her IYO?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/nc/north_carolina_democratic_primary-275.html

(I would ask over on the OS thread but I'm afraid of flying monkeys)

Hi Zip.... still laughing at your flying Monkeys comment...struck me funny, not htat I think OS are flying monkeys but it was fitting in with our trian of thought before...O well here we go.... Cant say what will happen IMO I think the SD are afraid to go with anyone but Obama that it will cause a collapse in the party. I am sure that if Hillary wins NC Edwards will come out for her..but is it all too late ???

If she does and it shows that the people are changing there minds and that Obama has been to far injured to beat McCain than they will decide on Hillary. Unless they to are also blinded by the Obama hope and unity.

If they cant see that she has got the popular vote...most important states...and Obama is tarnished and lost his momentum and that voters (the most important to win) have changed there minds than we are doomed. Would have loved to see how he would have done if there were only primaries and no caucuses where it was easier for his supporters to get out and vote for 8 hrs.

What is your take and how are the news reports there about all of this...???

 

[KikiFan]

I'm just amazed that she's pulled so close to Obama. I didn't think the Wright scandal would make much difference among NC Dems and Independents, but apparently it has.

I'm thinkin' Obama's amazed too

But he just doesn't get that it is an issue to some people.

 

[Zippa D Doodah]

I saw y'all were talking about Oz upthread and it made me think of those flying monkey that scared the peepee out of me when I was a kid.

A couple of things I heard lately; be sure to take with a block of salt. I claim no crystal ball or special knowledge beyond that described below...

1) I read on some liberal blog somewhere recently (sorry, forgot where) that Tom Daschle, who is BO's super delegate wrangler, says that almost all of supers are decided, and will support Obama. The "uncommitted ones" are waiting to do so because they don't want to be seen as speaking for the voters, thus will wait until after Kentucky and Montana vote. He says this will happen no matter what occurs in NC or IN. Now I though the SD system was a bit more fluid than that, but I'm sure Tom Daschle has infinite more insight about that than I do

2) A friend of mine who is a NC Dem party insider says that Bill has advised Hillary to shoot for 2012. Her gambit here is that she stays in the race and makes a muck of things, yet also accruing a positive image as a fighter and leader who won't quit. The general election almost certainly falls to McCain, whom America would never re-elect at age 76. Ta-dah... Door is open for Clinton in 2012. Now whether he knows something (which I sorta doubt) or whether this is something that came to him during his morning constitutional, I do not know. FWIW, I do know that a version of this gambit is making the rounds on the non-righty talk radio circuit in NC the last couple of days.

 

[robinb]

(I would ask over on the OS thread but I'm afraid of flying monkeys)

Hey! We're the one with the Wicked Witch of the West. They Flying Monkeys are on our side!

 

[Zippa D Doodah]

Hey! We're the one with the Wicked Witch of the West. They Flying Monkeys are on our side!

 

["Got Disney"]

I saw y'all were talking about Oz upthread and it made me think of those flying monkey that scared the peepee out of me when I was a kid.

A couple of things I heard lately; be sure to take with a block of salt. I claim no crystal ball or special knowledge beyond that described below...

1) I read on some liberal blog somewhere recently (sorry, forgot where) that Tom Daschle, who is BO's super delegate wrangler, says that almost all of supers are decided, and will support Obama. The "uncommitted ones" are waiting to do so because they don't want to be seen as speaking for the voters, thus will wait until after Kentucky and Montana vote. He says this will happen no matter what occurs in NC or IN. Now I though the SD system was a bit more fluid than that, but I'm sure Tom Daschle has infinite more insight about that than I do

2) A friend of mine who is a NC Dem party insider says that Bill has advised Hillary to shoot for 2012. Her gambit here is that she stays in the race and makes a muck of things, yet also accruing a positive image as a fighter and leader who won't quit. The general election almost certainly falls to McCain, whom America would never re-elect at age 76. Ta-dah... Door is open for Clinton in 2012. Now whether he knows something (which I sorta doubt) or whether this is something that came to him during his morning constitutional, I do not know. FWIW, I do know that a version of this gambit is making the rounds on the non-righty talk radio circuit in NC the last couple of days.

1...think i read that on the Huffington post
2. that is what Dick Morris keeps telling the media that he thinks she is doing...he has been wrong on so many occasions so i stopped listening to him

Hey! We're the one with the Wicked Witch of the West. They Flying Monkeys are on our side!

 

[Zippa D Doodah]

[QUOTE="Got Disney";24854864]1...think i read that on the Huffington post
2. that is what Dick Morris keeps telling the media that he thinks she is doing...he has been wrong on so many occasions so i stopped listening to him







[/QUOTE]


Well, you just aced all my Dem primary knowledge.

 

["Got Disney"]

Well, you just aced all my Dem primary knowledge.

Well just come by anytime and we will straighten you out and teach you how to be a DEM and as a REP you best stay away from the huffington post you may melt ....( hmmm not that oz thing again)

 

[Zippa D Doodah]

[QUOTE="Got Disney";24855166]Well just come by anytime and we will straighten you out and teach you how to be a DEM and as a REP you best stay away from the huffington post you may melt ....( hmmm not that oz thing again) [/QUOTE]

Oooooo... you're just begging me to make a heart, brain, and courage joke aren't you?

 

[punkin]

I'm just amazed that she's pulled so close to Obama. I didn't think the Wright scandal would make much difference among NC Dems and Independents, but apparently it has.

Apparently in Order to win NC, Obama has to win at least 30% of the white vote. This Wright thing has seriously damaged him there. We will see. I do not think Hillary will take NC, but I would be very happy to be proven wrong.

 

["Got Disney"]

Oooooo... you're just begging me to make a heart, brain, and courage joke aren't you?

you wouldnt dare