Here come the bug!

[Kitty 34]

OP, how's your family member doing? Influenza has a relatively short incubation period so the "verdict" should be in soon, so to speak.

I was wondering the same thing as they told my DH 3-4 days.

 

[Christine]

I was wondering the same thing as they told my DH 3-4 days.

I've read that if you had a "big" exposure that it could come on as early as 1 day after the exposure! But generally it's 3 days, with 4 being the longest.

 

[maxiesmom]

So far so good! The doctor said to give it 48 hours, and if no fever or other symptoms appeared, we should be safe.

Unfortunately the same cannot be said of my work place. Had one coworker in tears she felt so poorly. The problem was she calls in so much she was on her last warning, so if she had called in she would have lost her job. She ended up leaving early anyway, so I'm not sure if she will return or not. A couple of people went over the common areas with lysol wipes and spray to kill any crud left behind.

 

[Bianca and Bernard]

I just read an article that adneoviruses are going around too.



https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/me...t-is-not-the-flu/ar-BBIlt7b?OCID=ansmsnnews11


It looks like flu. It feels like flu. It even puts patients into the hospital like flu can.

There's another virus out there that could be adding to the seasonal misery, but it's not being identified.

The virus is called adenovirus, and it can cause very severe flu-like symptoms. It's so risky that the U.S. military vaccinates recruits against two major strains

But most people are not vaccinated against adenovirus, and doctor's offices don't test for it. Adriana Kajon, Ph.D, wants that to change.

"Unless you look for it or you suspect it's circulating or you are using diagnostic testing capabilities that can tell it apart, you are going to miss it, especially during flu season," said Kajon, an infectious disease specialist at the Lovelace Respiratory Research Institute in Albuquerque.

"We are seeing severe adult infections," Kajon told NBC News.


"That's a big deal, especially for a disease that by all means is vaccine preventable. But this vaccine is not licensed to be used in civilians."

Adenovirus infections often look like the common cold, or influenza. They cause fever, headache, body aches and sometimes but not always cough, stomach distress and breathing problems. Some strains cause eye infections. There are 52 different strains.

Kajon and colleagues collected details of adenovirus infections between 2011 and 2015 at colleges, in nursing homes and elsewhere.

"On the basis of the severity of the clinical presentation of some cases in this study, the (adenovirus) vaccine currently licensed for military use should be considered a potentially valuable resource to prevent disease in susceptible populations living in closed communities, such as college settings, summer camps, and long-term care facilities," they wrote in a report published this week in the journal Emerging Infectious Diseases.

An outbreak of adenovirus killed 10 people in 2007. Kajon's team tested college students at one campus during the severe 2014-2015 influenza epidemic and found 13 out of 168 students who came in for flu treatment had adenovirus infections.

Most patients may not suffer much, but the virus can cause very severe complications. Kajon and colleagues described the case of a 43-year-old Rochester, New York woman, previously healthy, who became infected in 2012 and quickly developed pneumonia and respiratory failure. During her hospital stay she suffered brain swelling and bleeding and stayed on a ventilator for more than amonth.

A year later, she was still out of breath if she exerted herself.

There was also the case of a 26-year-old Connecticut man infected in 2011 who had nausea, vomiting and chills. He spent days in the hospital with adenovirus infection.

There have been outbreaks in long-term care faciltiies, also. But most clinics don't test for adenovirus unless people are hospitalized with severe illness that isn't helped by immediate treatment, Kajon said.

"These reports are probably the tip of the iceberg. We need more surveillance," she said.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention keeps a log of reported cases of adenovirus.

"Outbreaks are more common in late winter, spring, and early summer but can occur throughout the year," the CDC said.

There were so many outbreaks among new military recruits that the Department of Defense vaccinates personnel against two of the more serious strains with an oral vaccine. Vaccination was stopped for a few years in 1999 and outbreaks soared again, but there haven't been many since the vaccine was re-introduced in 2011, the CDC said.

Kajon believes it should be more widely available,

"This is a vaccine-preventable disease," she said. "A life is a life. Losing a loved one to viral pneumonia when you know it could have been prevented is hard."

In the U.S., however, that requires catching the interest of a company that might want to develop such a vaccine commercially. "Unfortunately, it all comes down to the perception of having a market," Kajon said.

Adenovirus is not the killer that influenza is. Influenza kills between 12,000 and 50,000 people a year in the United States alone, and puts up to 700,000 in the hospital. A cocktail of other viruses, from coronaviruses to rhinoviruses, also cause seasonal misery.

But Kajon said her studies show adenoviruse can be a significant part of the mix.

As with many viruses, there's not a good treatment for adenovirus, although the antiviral cidofovir has helped some people with severe infections.

And adenoviruses are very hard to kill. Reports indicate they can survive on plastic and metal surfaces— think countertops and hospital tables— for a month. Some formulations of alcohol and chlorhexidine do not kill them easily, tests have shown, although chlorine does.

 

[Christine]

I just read an article that adneoviruses are going around too.



https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/me...t-is-not-the-flu/ar-BBIlt7b?OCID=ansmsnnews11

I read the same article. Many cases of flu that aren't tested or even seen by a doctor can be adenovirus but will will say they have the flu. Hard to tell the difference.

 

[Bianca and Bernard]

I read the same article. Many cases of flu that aren't tested or even seen by a doctor can be adenovirus but will will say they have the flu. Hard to tell the difference.

DH caught one right before Thanksgiving, 2014. It was still lingering right before Christmas, and he missed a kidney because of it. He finally went to the doctor after that (had been fighting me on it for that month) and got some medication. Got much better a few weeks later (and then got a kidney one month after missing the first one).

 

[bellebud]

DH got sick 9 days ago. He's getting better. DS caught it, still has it badly. I have it now. Fever, aches, dizziness and throat and ear aches.

 

[yoopermom]

I'm having surgery in ten days, and had to go to my g.p. today because I could tell I was getting a sinus infection. I checked in at the desk (without touching anything), then asked if I could wait right outside the plate glass window if they would just wave to me or text me when it was my turn. It was cold outside, but at least I wasn't in the germ-y waiting room! It looked like a sci fi movie with all the doctors and nurses masked (and many had absolutely raw hands, I assume from the handwashing/sanitizer). I tried not to touch *anything* until I left, we will see how well I did. My doctor said that I was the healthiest person she had treated today .

I'm a little afraid of having surgery and being exposed to more germs, but the date has been set, and a substitute has been hired for me at work for eight weeks, so I have to hope for the best.

My uncle, in his 80s with severe Parkinsons, was diagnosed with post-flu pneumonia in the e.r. yesterday, but was actually sent home because the doctor felt it was safer for him there than in the hospital .

Terri

 

[jerseygal]

I read the same article. Many cases of flu that aren't tested or even seen by a doctor can be adenovirus but will will say they have the flu. Hard to tell the difference.

I also read recently on adenovirus. What a bad season this year!

 

[OhMari]

I feel bad for the Olympians. I bet we will hear stories how someone has the flu or getting over the flu.