help! swan vs dolphin vs po

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am planning our 2nd trip to wdw and am debating between swan vs dolphin vs port orleans (loved the atmosphere with statues by pool) but swan or dolphin sounds convenient what with boat to epcot

any and all opinions would be appreciated

with 3 kids convenience is a priority!

thanks in advance
cindy
 
We just booked dolphin because of the great rate (gov't), and because I've stayed at the Boardwalk Villas and I loved the location. We really considered going a bit cheaper with the value resorts, but that location of epcot and mgm is not to be beat, plus the bus service was really great. We also found that walking through epcot was fun to get on the monrail rather than taking a bus directly to the mk. Just my 2 cents worth...but I can't give details about the hotels, sorry.
 
I've (dh, dd17, ds9, and I) stayed at the Swan, and Port Orleans. I would definately go back to the Swan or Dolphin before I stay at another moderate. We loved Port Orleans, but the location, pool, amenities and the room don't even come close to comparing. I think you will love the grotto pool! You'll be trading in the gator statues for swans, dolphins, clam shells and more flowers and greenery. While the swans aren't dancing like at Port Orleans, they do still add to the theming!

MGM and Epcot are a boat ride away, the boat dock is steps from your hotel. The other parks you access with buses, and that stop is also steps from the entrance. We walked a lot less at the Swan than we did at Port Orleans. Also, remember you have the entire boardwalk area to use for entertainment and eating, in your "backyard" right over the bridge.

Have a great trip, whatever you decide!
Debbie
 
I was also trying to decide which hotel I wanted to stay in this year. I've stayed in the All Star Movies for 3 yrs in a row, b/c of the value and my daughter enjoys the gigantic icons (but then again so do I) located throughout the resorts. This year she wants to do Pop Century.

I told her that eventually we would stay in all of them, but we just can't seem to break away from the All Stars Movies. But now that I see the Swan and Dolphin are offering the discount for certain professions I'm curious to try one of those this year.

I didn't realize that they were so close to MGM and Epcot, or at least that's what I've been reading from the other postings that I've been reading. But what is this about the extra $5 or $10 a day, I hear its for amenities such as a morning newspaper. What if I don't use these other services, can I some how have the additional charge eliminated?
 

I have stayed at POFQ and the Dolphin with an upcoming stay at the Swan (3 days to go!). POFQ is my fav mod resort. But I tried the Dolphin on the teacher rate and I am hooked! You get to stay at a deluxe resort for a great rate (I just love staying deluxe). The location is awesome - the ability to walk to Epcot and MGM and Boardwalk, B/Y Club with all the activities and restaurants is terrific. I love the grotto pool - there was plenty of space and lounge chairs. You also have the option of the lap pool at the Dolphin or the quiet pool at the Swan. The kiddie pool is very nice.

I know that the resort fee is a nuisance and some people have had it waived (we couldn't get it waived). But the additional charge still makes the rate a great deal.

Also, join spg and the possibility of an upgrade increases. We received Club level as a comp upgrade - we had just joined spg and had no points. That made our stay even more magical.

Good luck in making your decision - you can't go wrong - either way you are in Disney World! :)
 
We loved our stay at the Dolphin, especially the convenience to MGM and Epcot. We also went to MK three times and the bus ride was so easy. I also liked the idea of walking through Epcot and catching the monorail to MK, but that idea was vetoed by the rest of our group.

I was surprised at how close the Dolphin was to everything. The Boardwalk was right there and we could easily walk to Epcot, although the boat was a nice break and quick. We never did walk to MGM, but I'm told that's also a short walk.

The $10 resort fee, I'm told, is non-negotiable right now. We paid $129/night on the teacher rate for a $350/night room. Plus the service is excellent!! You might consider staying in a value resort for the first night if you want to save a little money.
 
Mouseteacher--We were posting at the same time. Great minds think alike!:smooth:
 
I'm probably going to get yelled at for this but here goes:

I think the Swan and Dolphin are ugly, actually mostly the Dolphin (what's up with that fish that wants to be a dolphin?). I think they stand out too much, they are too big and they don't really blend in with the rest of the area. I don't like that you can see them from really far away. They are just so gigantic. Most of the resorts at Disneyworld are not much taller than the trees around them. If feel like they don't belong there. Am I the only one who thinks this?

Ok with that said, the location is incredible, But it's still not a disney resort. IMHO, being able to charge with your room key and not having to carry around a wallet or money is a GREAT thing. For me, that reason alone is worth staying at the All Stars, let alone Port Orleans, over the Dolphin or Swan. Also, at the moment, Port Orleans is my favorite resort at WDW.
 
I was once a "Disney Snob" who refused to stay at the Swan or Dolphin because they are not Disney resorts and they ruined the forced perspective of the World Showcase (it does spoil the effect to see a huge hotel behind the Eiffel Tower; instead of looking like the tower is off in the distance like it once did, it now looks like a mini tower is on the roof!) But all that has changed. I posted this story about 8 months ago, so I apologize if this is seen as blogging (but it is so much easier to cut and paste than to re-tell this story):

For a long time, I, like many of my fellow Disney purists, have shunned the ugly ducklings of the Walt Disney World hotel scene. It's not that these hotels aren't pretty; in fact, by night, they may be two of the prettiest resorts in central Florida, but they just don't fit in the WDW landscape …or so I thought. After years of turning my head when I was near them (though megaliths such as these are impossible to avoid entirely) and driving on to my seminal homes that took shape in a Mountain Lodge, an A-framed vision of Walt's flagship, a Polynesian village, or turn of the century Floridian splendor, I began to yearn for a new experience. Do not misunderstand, I loved my Magic Kingdom Resort Area homes, but my tastes were changing, and the lure of the Yacht and Beach Clubs, with their proximity to Epcot and MGM studios was becoming enough to brave a week in the shadow of an eyesore. And so I did it. I booked a room in hotel that would soon become a favorite stop in my annual sojourn to adore at the altar of the mouse—the Yacht Club. It had promised a room steeped in nautical tradition and surrounded by casual elegance, and it did not disappoint. Well, it sort of delivered. As wonderful as the Yacht Club (and soon thereafter the Beach Club) was, it was overshadowed by the Temple of the Goofy Fish that looked down on me during my activities at these resorts with a playfully stupid grin on its stone face.

That grin began to grate on me, even to my very soul; I felt watched when I would play on the lake, and leered at as I dipped into the water playground known as Stormalong Bay. I grew to hate that stupid fish. That fish kept its silly grin, and my face began to wear a scowl. After the Boardwalk Inn opened, I found a new favorite at WDW. The Innkeeper’s Club was the most sublime experience in WDW resort accommodations, and if you got a garden view, you were out of view of that ugly fish and his sister fowl who stoically guarded the shores of Crescent Lake. I continued on for a few more years, sometimes silently, sometimes vocally, but always hating my great green nemesis. And then came a challenge to my resolve against my gilled antagonist.

Having returned to school, I found myself depleted of funds. Still, Disney called my name. Her sweet siren song was too powerful for my flesh to resist; add to it an enabling mother who purchased for my wife and I annual passes in 2000, and the baited hook of Disney temptation had caught me yet again. But where to stay this trip? Surely funds being what they were, we could not afford our usual digs, but could I stand a stay away from my true love? It was, fortuitously, my only option, and I resigned myself to an off-site stay. And then one day from my car stereo came the call of a familiar hero from long ago; Captain Kirk was promising me a new way to travel—one that would save me money if I would just be flexible enough. I was sold; and Priceline © was the peddler. I would save a bundle, and sure it would be off-site, but I would enjoy myself anyway. So off to my computer I went. These were the days of dial ups, and upon putting in my bid for a 4 star hotel for $60 a night (I could be optimistic couldn’t I?) I had to wait an eternity to simply put in my request. And then…I waited. And waited…And waited. In fact, it took so long that I gave up on my request. I had not heard, so I assumed it had not gone through, and I retired for the evening, assuming I would start the search another day.

But the gods of wires and modems had other plans for me that night. Those very gods conspired against me with the icon of my enemy. In the night, an evil power colluded with my Visa, and soon a charge would appear that could not be reversed. A charge that landed for the netted fish a catch it had eyed for years. For I, in that night had been snared by the crapulence of corporate conspiracy; against my will and desire, my name was entered into the guest registry at the Walt Disney World Dolphin! The agony of defeat beset me the next morning as I innocently logged onto my e-mail account to see what news may await me. The mournful wail of a fool besieged emanated from my humble apartment as I learned of the result of the folly of the night before. I had done it to myself, but somehow I felt betrayed by my trusted captain, and I immediately set to fix my mistake. It was only after my vain attempt to correct this injustice that I learned that the fine print matters! I had been undone by the enemy within my own gates.

But then came a new realization. I had not been stricken by my patina pariah; indeed, I had infiltrated his own hallowed grounds. His intimidation for years had kept me out of his unholy home, and now, by the power of some destiny or fate, I had been thrust into his lair. But I would survive. His smirk would change to a frown as he saw me conquer his efforts to defeat me. I would go to Disney World, and I wouldn’t have a good time, even if it killed me. I was going to show that fish! And so I began to prepare for the worst vacation of my life. I went so far as to type my negative comments before I left, if only as a primer. I was ready to hate the Dolphin, and I looked forward to my chance at misery. But never underestimate the power of your enemy.

Upon arriving at the Dolphin, my attitude of disdain was immediately put to a challenge. The valets and bellhops were so…courteous and efficient. I could have sworn they were Disney employees. So much so that I assumed that they must be, and I pointed my ire instead at the front desk. Never mind that the check-in had gone smooth and quick, despite the large number of guests checking in with us. I still could hate them for their…complimentary upgrade? Now, I was seething inside. I was being denied my opportunity to vocalize my disgust with the eyesore of the Disney skyline. But I realized that my mistake to this point had been in my attitude toward people. After all, people would be good no matter what their employment circumstance, right? Instead, I would turn my angst toward the very hotel itself. I couldn’t wait to get to my room to hate my view.

And then, to my astonishment, I was shown to a room that I could not hate. It had a king bed and TWO balconies! The view was of Epcot, and the Swan. The bathroom was spacious, the room was well appointed, there was nothing to complain about! Well, anyone could imagine my dismay. I learned that I couldn’t hate the building, and I couldn’t hate the people, I already knew I couldn’t hate the location, so I had to learn to hate the last two bastions of my hostility: 1.) The food, and 2.) The transportation. We decided that we would have dinner at Gulliver’s before taking a bus (yech!) to the Magic Kingdom. If that couldn’t give me something to complain bout, nothing could. So we took an elevator to the lobby floor, and walked past what I was just starting to notice—the beauty of the resort. There were fountains everywhere, and beautiful artwork on the walls. The lobby was truly impressive, with neat fiberoptic effects in the ceiling that seemed to transport us to some location of…whimsy. I felt myself getting carried away by the romance and charm of my old enemy as we walked to the Swan. And then, the smell of the food in the restaurant hit me. It was enticing, and inviting, and the atmosphere of a fun restaurant put a real smile on my face for the first time since I had lost my epic battle with the captain of the Enterprise. I was at the Swan/Dolphin, and I was enjoying myself!

That night, we took the bus to the Magic Kingdom. The bus came quickly, and dropped us off close to the gates. Certainly there was no complaint there. Even that evening, as the crowds were leaving after a viewing of the Main Street Electrical Parade, there were busses waiting on us, and we were back to the resort in short order. That night, the charm of the resort really took hold. This place is truly beautiful at night, and I was swept up by the, dare I say, romance of the resort. My dear wife and I retired for a romantic evening, and awoke to find ourselves, to my surprise, in Disney World. I had not been taken captive by a stranger in a strange land, but instead had learned that almost as good as the mouse, are the mouse’s good neighbors.

Now, I can’t pretend that the week was perfect, but it was magical. I enjoyed myself as much at the Dolphin as I had at many other Disney resorts. And while this wasn’t my favorite vacation spot in the “world.” I learned that the eyesore wasn’t so ugly after all. I even learned that this resort could be seen as many to be wonderful. I hope that by this I have allayed the fears of others like me. Misguided as I once was, I’ve learned that once you’ve seen the light, it isn’t any good unless you share it. So don’t be afraid of our awkward looking ugly duckling. Give it a chance, and you may discover the “Swan” (or the Dolphin) within.
 
Demosthenes ~ eloquently written! :) I had the same snobbery re: S/D but the lure of the teacher rate was too good to ignore. And then, lo and behold, they took this lowly "standard room with limited view" reservation (in fact 2 rooms b/c DBro and family were with us) and upgraded us to Club Level with their compliments. :) So, with that under our belt, we have put away the snobbery and are returning in 3 days to the Swan this time. :Pinkbounc

schwaa ~ you won't be flamed! LOL Your opinion is "your opinion" and individual differences and perceptions are what make the world go 'round.

swilphil ~ ;) of course, great "S/D" minds think alike!
 
Demosthenes>> Great story! Thank you for sharing!

Twinx4>>Just add the ten dollars onto your regular room rate and you still have quite the deal. I happened to run into some old hotel receipts in the glove box of my car from hockey tournaments this past season. Two of those even had resort fees on them for items which in many times were closed for the winter!

Debbie
 
Demosthenes- it is that cleverly written post that changed my attitude towards staying at the Swan/Dolphin when you originally posted it - and I am now staying there for my next trip in October! Thanks for you're creative and descriptive analysis of that hotel!
 
mouseteacher - did you get the CL upgrade this year. How did you go about asking for it at check in or did you request it ahead of time. Would appreciate any information. I am also a SPG member with no points.:)
 
schwaa--I thought the Swan/Dolphin was weird looking, too, but after staying there I have to say the design elements all work together. They have great landscaping and the new room decor is tasteful. Staff is wonderful, too.

If I could afford the BC or BWI I would love staying there. I'm not a big fan of bus transportation, so I find being able to take a stroll to Epcot and the Boardwalk is worth a lot. Plus the boat rides to MGM are short and pleasant. When we did take a bus to MK and AK, Swan was the first stop.
 
Originally posted by Mouseteacher

Also, join spg and the possibility of an upgrade increases. We received Club level as a comp upgrade - we had just joined spg and had no points. That made our stay even more magical.

]Mouseteacher
What is spg....and how do I join, so I can inquire about the upgrades?

I didn't know that the Swan and Dolphin were not Disney resorts:confused:

Everyones comments were so inspiring and I think I'll try to make my reservations for this xmas.


Schwaa;; I'm sorry to hear that you feel that way about the Swan/Dolphin...but as Mouseteacher stated earlier its Disney..you can't go wrong. Good luck

Why do they charge more to stay at the Swan than the dolphin for the nurses/teachers/military discounts?
 
twinsx4>> You can apply at spg.com Mouseteacher is one of the starwoods experts and she can tell you how to go about adding the american express card to your starwoods number and getting extra points and an upgraded spg card should you want to do that.

The Swan just finished with their renovations, thus the price went up across the board for all of their rates. I believe rack rate also went up. The Dolphin is in the middle of renovations, although depending on when you are going they could be finished.

I think we all forgot to mention one of the major perks of the rooms. The heavenly bed! It really is heaven, and such a pleasure to fall into after a long hot day in the parks.

Hope this helps,
Debbie
 
Thanks, hockeymom, for helping twinsx4. I was spending this gorgeous summer afternoon at my dad's pool. :) LOL, I am no Starwood expert - I got all my knowledge from these Boards!

twinsx4 ~ log onto www.spg.com and follow the steps for registering to be a Starwood Preferred Guest. If you choose to up your chances for an upgrade - apply for the Starwood Amex cc. Once you have received your card, call back spg and let them know you have a Platinum Amex and would like to be a Gold spg member. Having the Amex card allows you to earn points for future trips. This year we earned enough points to stay 3 nights on the spg cash and points promotion ($60 / night + 4000 points). One caveat - the card does have a high interest rate and a yearly fee of $30. Being a Gold level spg member, does up the odds of receiving an upgrade but I believe the resort does everything it can to upgrade all spg members if availability is there. Traveling during busier times of the year could be problematic. And, as hockeymom wrote, the increase in rates is due to the renovations.

luvdisney ~ We received CL upgrade last August. I just e mailed a request - I wasn't specific about what we would like I just asked for a comp upgrade. That is what they gave us! It was a quieter time of year (late August). This year I am lobbying for a balcony room. I'm hopeful but I will be fine with whatever I get - after all I'm in Disney World and in a great resort, too!
 
thank you hockeymom and mouse teacher for the helpful information.
 














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