Help Please -- -quickly Wwyd

[Jaymie]

Anyone know the answer to this???

It would be a fire code violation and you could be evicted. And I don't think they would have to refund your money either.

Just tell her no!! Or tell your mom to take her to disneyworld!

 

[saquin]

According to this list the maximum room occupancy for value and moderate resorts is 4 people plus one child under 3 in a crib. Most of the deluxes have a limit of 5 people. So if you are staying at a value or moderate she can not stay in your room, per Disney rules. And if you're staying in a deluxe, just tell her she can not stay in your room, per YOUR rules.

 

[melmlantz]

I second (and so on) everything everybody else has said. Family is supposed to be special, but when they take advantage of you like that--and in particular, work together to do so! --then the rules change. NO family title (brother, sister, mother, father..) provides entitlement to ANYTHING that is yours. ESPECIALLY when you have a family of your very own now.

I am very sorry that they are putting you through this. I hope you are able to take a stand and do what's best for your family... because I know it's not easy. Most importantly, I hope you have a fantabulous, amazing, mousical time at the Mouse Keep us updated <3

 

[agentpleakley]

and asked hypothetically what would happen -- the CM told me they do charge you -- and I asked for what -- she put me on hold then never came back.

I haven't talked to her yet...this situation ruined my day yesterday. Its a no-win situation -- I know my mother -- she will not come here for Christmas if I don't let my sister go. (We don't live in the same state). I do not want her to go for numerous reasons (1) we can't exceed the room max (I am anal about following rules -- the thought of breaking the rules gives me ulcers); (2) I really don't want to spend my vacation stepping over her as she lays on the floor; (3) she won't have a room key and we already have our ADRs planned - too much confusion ; and last but not least (4) I am freakin' tired of paying her way all the time.

So, my mind is made up, she is not staying in our room. Now, I just have to deal with the fallout -- and believe me - I am/ will be definitely the bad person in this whole thing.

 

[Flossbolna]

and asked hypothetically what would happen -- the CM told me they do charge you -- and I asked for what -- she put me on hold then never came back.

I haven't talked to her yet...this situation ruined my day yesterday. Its a no-win situation -- I know my mother -- she will not come here for Christmas if I don't let my sister go. (We don't live in the same state). I do not want her to go for numerous reasons (1) we can't exceed the room max (I am anal about following rules -- the thought of breaking the rules gives me ulcers); (2) I really don't want to spend my vacation stepping over her as she lays on the floor; (3) she won't have a room key and we already have our ADRs planned - too much confusion ; and last but not least (4) I am freakin' tired of paying her way all the time.

So, my mind is made up, she is not staying in our room. Now, I just have to deal with the fallout -- and believe me - I am/ will be definitely the bad person in this whole thing.

I totally agree with your decission and am sorry that it will make you feel bad due to the reactions by your family members! Perhaps it will help to know that we here at the DIS don't think that you are the bad person in this whole thing!!

 

[Mkrop]

and asked hypothetically what would happen -- the CM told me they do charge you -- and I asked for what -- she put me on hold then never came back.

I haven't talked to her yet...this situation ruined my day yesterday. Its a no-win situation -- I know my mother -- she will not come here for Christmas if I don't let my sister go. (We don't live in the same state). I do not want her to go for numerous reasons (1) we can't exceed the room max (I am anal about following rules -- the thought of breaking the rules gives me ulcers); (2) I really don't want to spend my vacation stepping over her as she lays on the floor; (3) she won't have a room key and we already have our ADRs planned - too much confusion ; and last but not least (4) I am freakin' tired of paying her way all the time.

So, my mind is made up, she is not staying in our room. Now, I just have to deal with the fallout -- and believe me - I am/ will be definitely the bad person in this whole thing.

Some days you just have to be the bad guy.

I would find out how much it cost for a room of her own, in your resort as well as a value, and present this to your mom and sis. Say I would "love" for her to come along but Disney is much stricter than most hotels and unless Mom and Sis are willing to pay for the cost of another location you cant put your whole family's vacation at risk. She will proabably poo poo your rule following but be firm.

Good luck.

 

[minnie61650]

Some days you just have to be the bad guy.

I would find out how much it cost for a room of her own, in your resort as well as a value, and present this to your mom and sis. Say I would "love" for her to come along but Disney is much stricter than most hotels and unless Mom and Sis are willing to pay for the cost of another location you cant put your whole family's vacation at risk. She will proabably poo poo your rule following but be firm.

Good luck.

Very good advice.
Having more guests in a room at a Disney resort is against Disney policy and may also be a violation of a fire code.
If you are caught Disney could not only make you change to a room/rooms which will allow your whole party and charge you the full rack for the room/rooms they can also charge you with breaking a fire code which might result in a large fine. They could also just ask you to leave. The resorts are private property and Disney would be well within their rights to take this action.

I would NOT put my familie's vacation at risk.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[Nancyg56]

Some days you just have to be the bad guy.

I would find out how much it cost for a room of her own, in your resort as well as a value, and present this to your mom and sis. Say I would "love" for her to come along but Disney is much stricter than most hotels and unless Mom and Sis are willing to pay for the cost of another location you cant put your whole family's vacation at risk. She will proabably poo poo your rule following but be firm.

Good luck.

I absolutely agree. If they agree and can get a room I would then tell them you will try to add her onto your ADR's but that if you cannot that she is on her own.

 

[MaryannF]

Your husband must be a saint. A lot of men would have already put their foot down and stopped these scenarios from happening. You are not the only person affected. There are your husband and children to think about. What would your children be saying to you as they step over their aunt and leave her alone for the day at WDW? Say NO, your mother and sister will either get over it or they won't. If they don't, tell them it is their loss. I had a similar situation with a younger sister. I didn't want to make waves but eventually it stated to affect my relationship with my husband. I realized that if I had to please someone it was my husband and children. When I said no things were frosty for a while but eventually my sister and family came around.

 

[vanillarum]

You say that she is a "mooch", so I would tell her to "buzz off !". Politely, of course. And, maybe print out this thread and forward it to her. She'll get the picture. Good luck !!

 

[Escape Artist]

And think about the message it would be sending your kids! Do you want them to learn that "it's okay to be a doormat and taken advantage of by people you don't want to have with you"?

For you it's a sister, but for them it might be a roommate, a co-worker, etc. Teach them by example to make their own choices, and to be strong! This is a vacation, not a bone marrow transplant!

I would say "no" just for that reason, but all the other ones given here are excellent, too. (And I know how awkward and painful this can be with family. Have a nice Christmas without them. They'll come around and understand eventually, and by then you'll have reset their expectations.)

Sue in Texas

 

[tmonferdini]

My TA just told me the other day that if room occupancy is more than it is supposed to be (5 people in a room for 4), they can throw you out and cancel your room. I asked her because we are 5 and have to pay for a mod for the 5th person.

 

[lovedoggies]

OMG this happened to me!

Its my husbands younger brother that MOOCHED off us all the time! But, not anymore!

Mr Mooch was practically living in our extra room. He was always at our house for meals, just hanging around. He worked, but spent all his money on his car and buying stereos, video games, etc and never ever ever chipped in on anything at our house. One time we all went out to eat and my husband forgot his wallet. Mr Mooch would not pay for us (even though we ALWAYS pay for him). I was furious! In my eyes it was the straw that broke the camels back. So anyhow, this is how I ended the whole thing.

Long story short: About 4 or 5 years ago we planned a family ski trip. My daughter was young, so we invited MY sister to come along and to help take care of her. Mr Mooch found out of course that she was going and he wanted to go, too. We told him no, but he kept on bugging us. So we told him to come along but he had to get his own room and pay for all his own meals & entertainment. He of course didn't want to do that. So we refused to take him with us. We knew he was going to try to go anyhow, so we left a day earlier than he thought we were leaving. I also had 'fake' information about where we were staying all typed up like an itinerary. So we left and had a great trip and he had no idea where we really were. He was so mad. He moved his stuff out of our extra room, and refused to visit, and was very upset with us for several months! But then he got over it and now comes to visit like a normal person. We dont talk about that 'trip', but we get along fine now.

So be strong and JUST SAY NO! She will forgive you eventually. You are entitled to have a family vacation without her & she will realize that. It's really hard to be the meanie, but in the long run it pays off!

 

[agentpleakley]

OMG this happened to me!




He of course didn't want to do that. So we refused to take him with us. We knew he was going to try to go anyhow, so we left a day earlier than he thought we were leaving. I also had 'fake' information about where we were staying all typed up like an itinerary. So we left and had a great trip and he had no idea where we really were. He was so mad. He moved his stuff out of our extra room, and refused to visit, and was very upset with us for several months! But then he got over it and now comes to visit like a normal person. We dont talk about that 'trip', but we get along fine now.

Oh my goodness -- this is awesome.

Thanks everyone for all the advice --- I haven't heard from anyone today -- I guess they are peeved at me. I guess I have to "get over it" if my mother decides not to come here for Christmas -- it will be her loss - as she will miss seeing her only grandchildren -- and you can't get that back, can you?

 

[lovedoggies]

Oh my goodness -- this is awesome.

Thanks everyone for all the advice --- I haven't heard from anyone today -- I guess they are peeved at me. I guess I have to "get over it" if my mother decides not to come here for Christmas -- it will be her loss - as she will miss seeing her only grandchildren -- and you can't get that back, can you?

You are so right about that - it would be her loss! I know exactly how you feel right now, and believe me ... you are doing the RIGHT thing.

Go enjoy your vacation to the very fullest.

 

[Kim1964]

I totally think you've made the right decision. I hope you and your DH and kids have a blast on your trip.

A thought for next time: I know you waited a while to tell them about the trip so this wouldn't happen, but that didn't work. Just in case they don't get the hint this time, don't tell them about the next trip until you are BACK from it.

 

[TJA]

Did you tell them that you're not allowed to have a 5th person in the room? I don't see how anyone can be mad at you as you didn't make the rules. Hopefully everything works out for you. It's awful to have stress before a trip. Good luck! Oh, and keep us posted.

 

[ldo]

WDW is VERY strict about this--we are a family of 5 and cannot make reservations at ANY values and only 1 moderate (and only if they have the 5 person room available). You can tell her that you "tried" to change the reservation and that 5 people are NOT allowed in the room. Also, I think that housekeeping is supposed to notify the hotel if they see evidence of extra people (such as sleeping bags, tons of luggage, etc.). Be polite, firm and matter-of-fact!!
fyi--I have a friend whose mother always takes the side of the the younger sister-even when it is ridiculous--it has harmed many family events. If your Mother chooses not to come for Christmas over such a crazy request, then I am guessing that there is a strong co-dependence there, and unfortunately, will probably not be the only time this emotional "card" is played. In which case, the healthiest thing to do is to be nice, but do what is best for YOUR family--IMHO, I think that every time you are firm and put a stop to the nonsense, you gain a bit more "normalcy" in the family dynamics--but the first few times are tough-but this one is easier b/c you can use WDW rules as your excuse--good luck! Elaine

 

[agentpleakley]

Did you tell them that you're not allowed to have a 5th person in the room? I don't see how anyone can be mad at you as you didn't make the rules. Hopefully everything works out for you. It's awful to have stress before a trip. Good luck! Oh, and keep us posted.

I did -- would you believe I tell my mom about Disney's rules -- and within 15 minutes my sister emailed me to tell me that she had already gotten the days off approved and would it be ok for her to crash on my floor.

I really don't think the rules mean anything to them. For example, last year we rented a house on the Outer Banks. I specifically got permission from the company to have my 3 dogs stay - I paid for the house and all deposits for the house and my 3 dogs. Well, my sister shows up with her dog. I take them aside and explain to them that if her dog gets caught in the house, she will have to pay me for the week's rental, etc. (this was not considering ruining our vacation) --- well, my mother laid into me (oh, did I tell you that she gets to tag along for free too) -- I am still the witch out of that situation.

 

[lilyv]

I did -- would you believe I tell my mom about Disney's rules -- and within 15 minutes my sister emailed me to tell me that she had already gotten the days off approved and would it be ok for her to crash on my floor.

I really don't think the rules mean anything to them. For example, last year we rented a house on the Outer Banks. I specifically got permission from the company to have my 3 dogs stay - I paid for the house and all deposits for the house and my 3 dogs. Well, my sister shows up with her dog. I take them aside and explain to them that if her dog gets caught in the house, she will have to pay me for the week's rental, etc. (this was not considering ruining our vacation) --- well, my mother laid into me (oh, did I tell you that she gets to tag along for free too) -- I am still the witch out of that situation.

How about saying something like this? "Sis, Since Disney won't allow us to have more than 4 people in a room, I checked around and found some great deals for you at Mousesavers." Then give her the details on some of the current hotels/room rates with phone #'s. I'd also email the same to her. That way the situation is in print, with a polite solution. It's her problem, now.