Help Lice!!! We leave for Disney tomorrow!!

[my4kids]

Interesting read:

http://www.askdrsears.com/html/8/T082500.asp



Gives pause to think, maybe the OP will be OK. I still think I would have shortened my DD's hair by a football field just to make it easier. So, if Dr. Sears' site is giving the right info and it's that easy to control Lice, I wonder why the world is infested with these useless critters.

Thank you!!!! exactly what I have been trying to say! the world is infested because it takes 3 weeks for people to realize they have them, they are spreding them all over the place before they realize. You all are worried about the people coming in contact with her after she was treated when you should being worrying if the OP contacted everyone her DD has been in contact with in the last 3 weeks before treatment.

 

[my4kids]

What's the difference between rubbing your head against a seat (rides, magical express etc) and putting on a hat?

alright, whatever, ask.

 

[twinklebug]

You all are worried about the people coming in contact with her after she was treated when you should being worrying if the OP contacted everyone her DD has been in contact with in the last 3 weeks before treatment.

Too true. Here we are all worried about the person with the known condition who's actively persuing control over it, not the people who are still unaware they might be carriers and they themselves might be headed off... to DISNEY!

 

[Mermaid02]

alright, whatever, ask.

Thanks I will.

 

[Mkrop]

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I agree.. And I have to say that I would be absolutely furious if I contracted head lice while at Disney (or anywhere else for that matter) because someone purposely chose to expose their child to others in this manner..

She didn't have a clue - and I have serious concerns as to whether or not she is continuing to follow up with the treatments and combing while on vacation..

I would be too if it was someone who knew they could spread this Although it is accurate that you can have them and not know until the itching starts. One girl in DS's grade never itched one bit, the school nurse found it when she was checking all the heads in 2nd grade. She is the one who got it from being on the bus next to one of the girls. She was not in THE CLASSROOM as people at the school started to call it.

I guess I dont beleive one treatment is enough. I dont necessarily mean more pesticides but maybe some of the other things. But many moms in my sons class, did the RID treatment, combed the hair, thought they had it under control, and boom the kid was sent home again or not allowed in. You tell me that all 14 moms that were treating these girsl were just careless.No I think this is an ugly process, the little buggers do a great job of reproducing and hiding from the comb.

 

[Mkrop]

Thank you!!!! exactly what I have been trying to say! the world is infested because it takes 3 weeks for people to realize they have them, they are spreding them all over the place before they realize. You all are worried about the people coming in contact with her after she was treated when you should being worrying if the OP contacted everyone her DD has been in contact with in the last 3 weeks before treatment.

Maybe she did but I just doubt she had time to call of DD's contacts, deal with her own kid, and pack the family up for Disney.

So now all the kids that were exposed to OP DDs are now walking around spreading it more places like the movies, and the sleepovers etc. I hope she did call but most people are embaraased to admit it so they dont call unless they have to which is sad!

 

[taximomfor4]

I really don't see this as the issue here. I would never knowingly spread lice and I would not go one vacation if I thought there was any chance of it spreading. The point was, that any medical professional will tell you that it was perfectly OK for this child to travel after being treated with RID. This mother needs to continue to use a lice comb to get nits out if she does not want a reoccurance, but the people with the medical degrees will tell you this mother did nothing wrong by leaving for WDW.

If the mother said, "I don't want to be bothered with this right before vacation, I deal with it when I get home" ,then THAT would be selfish irresponsible, and and to Hll with the rest of the world mentality. But SHE TREATED THE KID WIT RID. I will be the first to admit that won't stop the problem for good on it's own, but it will keep the child from being contagious for at least 10 days.

While at dd's checkup at the pediatrician today, asked the dr. about this whole topic. She has MD after her name, and did NOT say what you are saying. She said that it she'd give the OK after a RID treatment and a comb-through IF, and ONLY IF, the child was brought back in for a re-check. Because if only one or two bugs survived (or had fallen onto a stuffed animal and were waiting there for a new host) the child could still have lice. Also, with just a couple strands of hair with nits attached shedding, the nits could have been about to hatch soon -- then they could hatch where the shed hair lies, and find a new host.

So apparently, just a couple of shed hairs (we shed many per day) in the hotel room, once the nits hatch, could infect someone else. She didn't understand where the 10-day non-contagious thing came from because NEW nits hatch in about 10 days -- but not all that child's nits are brand new. With light hair (which the OP says her dd has), nits will be particularly hard to see.

I really, really hope the OP remembers to say something to Mousekeeping afterward. At ASMU once, we got a just-fumigated-for-lice room once. The carpets had to be cleaned and everything, and were wet for our first couple of days.

 

[Hannathy]

Too true. Here we are all worried about the person with the known condition who's actively persuing control over it, not the people who are still unaware they might be carriers and they themselves might be headed off... to DISNEY!

Not knowing and spreading it is unavoidable and accidental , KNOWINGLY spreading it is irresponsible and selfish!!!


The other problem was she was not actively pursuing control of it at all.

 

[twinklebug]

Not knowing and spreading it is unavoidable and accidental , KNOWINGLY spreading it is irresponsible and selfish!!!

I agree but...

The other problem was she was not actively pursuing control of it at all.

Hm. Her 1st post:

I found lice in my daughters hair tonight-went and got RID and did the treatment, washed all her sheets etc in hot water, threw away hair things. Is that all I need to do? Anybody have any experience with this? We leave for Disney tomorrow, I bought extra RID to bring with us. Should I ask for a clean pillowcase every day? How likely is everyone else in the family to get it?

Sounds like she was actively persuing control to me. She was just new to it as would most of us would be & was unsure what else should be done.

 

[monsterkitty]

I thought of this thread today at the $100 store (aka Target). I was buying bandiads and looked down to see RID. It was on sale.

 

[Hannathy]

She didn't understand where the 10-day non-contagious thing came from because NEW nits hatch in about 10 days -- but not all that child's nits are brand new.

Thank you for saying what I have been saying since the start about the new lice hatching sooner than 10 days! but I don't have a MD behind my name.

The OP had no idea what the nits looked like and admitted to seeing nits in her DD's hair after combing, no where did she say she was staying up all night combing those suckers out before going. Later in the thread she talked about using hats!

 

[taximomfor4]

Interesting read:

http://www.askdrsears.com/html/8/T082500.asp



Gives pause to think, maybe the OP will be OK. I still think I would have shortened my DD's hair by a football field just to make it easier. So, if Dr. Sears' site is giving the right info and it's that easy to control Lice, I wonder why the world is infested with these useless critters.

The OP used RID. RID's website says you should be lice-free after all 3 parts of the treatment plan (10 days). It also mentions the absolute necessity of checking often during that 10 days to find and remove more eggs.

They don't seem to promise 1 treatment makes you louse-free the next day.

 

[taximomfor4]

Thank you for saying what I have been saying since the start about the new lice hatching sooner than 10 days! but I don't have a MD behind my name.

The OP had no idea what the nits looked like and admitted to seeing nits in her DD's hair after combing, no where did she say she was staying up all night combing those suckers out before going. Later in the thread she talked about using hats!

Oh yeah! Your post reminded me that the pediatrician also distinguished between nits (old, hatched eggs, she said) which are more easily seen and "eggs" which are really hard to see (she uses some kind of special light or something, she said) -- which still have baby lice inside them -- nice and protected in a very sturdy, waterproof casing. Ewww.

 

[Mermaid02]

Oh yeah! Your post reminded me that the pediatrician also distinguished between nits (old, hatched eggs, she said) which are more easily seen and "eggs" which are really hard to see (she uses some kind of special light or something, she said) -- which still have baby lice inside them -- nice and protected in a very sturdy, waterproof casing. Ewww.

EWWWWW! I thought nits WERE the lice eggs with the lice inside them....learn something new everyday!

 

[cardaway]

No it won't!!! Lice hatch in 6 to 10 days and there are eggs on that kids head that would have been laid 6-10 days AGO and could hatch today or tomorrow. The Rid could have also missed live lice it happens all the time. Another poster also showed that swimming negates the effectiveness of the shampoo and as I said I really doubt they are not swimming in the summer in Florida. That child could very well be and probably is contagious right now because we know the Mom did not get all the nits out nor did she have any plans to do that before leaving.

Exactly. Those other numbers assume a totally new cycle, not an existing head of ready to hatch little critters.

And I'm just loving the "but and MD said" stuff. If every doctors agreed on every issue the phrase "getting a second opinion" wouldn't exist.

 

[4greatboys]

I think Im going to need a treatment just from reading this thread.

 

[djm99]

Who is at risk for getting head lice?
Anyone who comes in close contact (especially head-to-head contact) with someone who already has head lice is at greatest risk. Occasionally, head lice may be acquired from contact with clothing (such as hats, scarves, coats) or other personal items (such as brushes or towels) that belong to an infested person. Preschool and elementary-age children, 3-11, and their families are infested most often. Girls get head lice more often than boys, women more than men. In the United States, African-Americans rarely get head lice. Personal hygiene or cleanliness in the home or school has nothing to do with getting head lice.


What do head lice look like?
There are three forms of lice: the egg (also called a nit), the nymph, and the adult.

Egg/Nit: Nits are head lice eggs. They are very small, about the size of a knot in thread, hard to see, and are often confused for dandruff or hair spray droplets. Nits are laid by the adult female at the base of the hair shaft nearest the scalp. They are firmly attached to the hair shaft. They are oval and usually yellow to white. Nits take about 1 week to hatch. Eggs that are likely to hatch are usually located within 1/4 inch of the scalp.

Nymph: The nit hatches into a baby louse called a nymph. It looks like an adult head louse, but is smaller. Nymphs mature into adults about 7 days after hatching. To live, the nymph must feed on blood.

Where are head lice most commonly found?

Adult louse claws

They are most commonly found on the scalp, behind the ears and near the neckline at the back of the neck. Head lice hold on to hair with hook-like claws found at the end of each of their six legs. Head lice are rarely found on the body, eyelashes, or eyebrows.

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dpd/parasites/lice/default.htm

 

[poohandwendy]

OMG, thanks for the visual djm!!!!!! I am getting so itchy!!! ...eeewwwww, look at those claw things...

jk

 

[MUFFYCAT]

I was fine througout this thread until that visual.

 

[mickeysgal]

I really, really hope the OP remembers to say something to Mousekeeping afterward. At ASMU once, we got a just-fumigated-for-lice room once. The carpets had to be cleaned and everything, and were wet for our first couple of days.

How did you know that the room had just been treated specifically for lice and not just its turn to have the carpets cleaned or that they were trying to get rid of a smoke smell from a non-smoking room?

If I had been told my hotel had just been treated for lice, I think I would have requested another room.