Help. Is this right? MMB using the 25 1 time points

[DVC Gma]

I called in to do MMB and buy the 25 points to renew my annual pass. This lady wants me to book a DVC trip. Because we are arriving May 17th on a cash stay, it doesn’t count. Like I don’t know “ 1 time points are for when you are short on points for a planned trip.” If that is the case WHYwoild I buy MMB when I could just buy the points with out MMB? Wth? Did I join yesterday? Or have I not bought them for that reason before? Sorry my little rant…

Anyone know the cast member they dealt with and it worked?

 

[Tatebeck]

Yes you can buy the OTUP and use for the pass if you have MMB. I have done it myself. Just note that you can only buy 24 OTUP not 25.

First say that you are calling and a MMB member and you want to purchase/renew your pass with points, and then say that you would like to purchase the OTUP to put towards the passes. This is one of the few things that you can buy OTUP points that shouldn't require them to make them for a reservation.

If you just start out asking to buy OTUP they will ask to make a reservation with them as that is the normal process for OTUP

 

[DVC Gma]

I did that! I wonder if she was new or has a problem with doing that?
I said “I need to buy the MMB, buy the points and I want to use those plus my own to renew my annual pass.”
Should I buy the MMB then call back tomorrow and do the points/pass? Or feel out the next cast member on the phone and still try to do it all?

 

[thanxfornoticin]

We purchased MMB earlier this year, and absolutely used it to purchase 24 OTUP (actually purchased 12 and got 12 'free') that went directly to renewing our AP. We did not have to make any room reservation for using the points to renew the AP with points. We did both transactions at the same time - the OTUP and then the renewal.

 

[TCRAIG]

They have been letting MMB members buy the OTU points without using them towards a reservation in order to apply them to a pass but if you get a CM that doesn’t know this - you can hang up and try another CM OR you can find a reservation for 24 points (31+ days in the futre), buy the OTU points for the reservation and turn right around and cancel it and voila - 24 OTU points you can now use towards your pass. I would buy MMB first.

 

[thanxfornoticin]

I did that! I wonder if she was new or has a problem with doing that?
I said “I need to buy the MMB, buy the points and I want to use those plus my own to renew my annual pass.”
Should I buy the MMB then call back tomorrow and do the points/pass? Or feel out the next cast member on the phone and still try to do it all?

I would call again and talk with a different cast member. What you want to do is legitimate - assuming the other points you want to use to renew the AP are eligible for the transaction.

 

[Maleficent85]

I called in to do MMB and buy the 25 points to renew my annual pass. This lady wants me to book a DVC trip. Because we are arriving May 17th on a cash stay, it doesn’t count. Like I don’t know “ 1 time points are for when you are short on points for a planned trip.” If that is the case WHYwoild I buy MMB when I could just buy the points with out MMB? Wth? Did I join yesterday? Or have I not bought them for that reason before? Sorry my little rant…

Anyone know the cast member they dealt with and it worked?

You can only buy one time use points when you are booking a reservation. Also you can only buy 24 one time use points per use year. With magical beginnings you buy 12 points at $20 and you get 12 free points. If you are wanting to renew your sorcerers pass the cash price is around $904 and using points it's 65 points which is valuing those points at around $14 per point. I believe you can also only use direct points in the use year you purchased magical beginnings to use towards the purchase of an annual pass. They may have an exclusion to being able to use one time use points for the purchase of a pass (I don't know the correct answer to this). You could call member services again and ask if one time use points can be used for an annual pass. If the answer is yes then you can call member services and book a random room for 24 points within the 7 month window within the current use year and then cancel the reservation so you have the points available for the purchase of the pass. Again make sure that one time use points can be used to purchase the pass. We have bought one time use points for a random night and cancelled the reservation so we had the points available at the 7 month window to book the cabins at Fort Wilderness. I don't believe the cast member you talked to was in error by not allowing you to buy the points to directly purchase the pass.

 

[DVC Gma]

Done. Thank you so much for your help!

 

[thanxfornoticin]

You can only buy one time use points when you are booking a reservation. Also you can only buy 24 one time use points per use year. With magical beginnings you buy 12 points at $20 and you get 12 free points. If you are wanting to renew your sorcerers pass the cash price is around $904 and using points it's 65 points which is valuing those points at around $14 per point. I believe you can also only use direct points in the use year you purchased magical beginnings to use towards the purchase of an annual pass. They may have an exclusion to being able to use one time use points for the purchase of a pass (I don't know the correct answer to this). You could call member services again and ask if one time use points can be used for an annual pass. If the answer is yes then you can call member services and book a random room for 24 points within the 7 month window within the current use year and then cancel the reservation so you have the points available for the purchase of the pass. Again make sure that one time use points can be used to purchase the pass. We have bought one time use points for a random night and cancelled the reservation so we had the points available at the 7 month window to book the cabins at Fort Wilderness. I don't believe the cast member you talked to was in error by not allowing you to buy the points to directly purchase the pass.

Due respect, but this is not true. You can buy OTUP to purchase or renew an AP, and you do not have to make any room reservations to do it. I am MMB and I just did this transaction less than a month ago. It's a very simple phone call for 2 transactions - purchase the 24 points and purchase/renew the AP on points. I added 41 of our own points to the 24 to renew the AP. I never made a room reservation....... The OTUP can be used directly for the AP......

 

[Maleficent85]

Due respect, but this is not true. You can buy OTUP to purchase or renew an AP, and you do not have to make any room reservations to do it. I am MMB and I just did this transaction less than a month ago. It's a very simple phone call for 2 transactions - purchase the 24 points and purchase/renew the AP on points. I added 41 of our own points to the 24 to renew the AP. I never made a room reservation....... The OTUP can be used directly for the AP......

I saw the other comments after this posted. I was writing it while the others posted. I would have deleted but could find an option to delete. I'm glad to hear that this is possible and Im glad the OP got her transaction done. We personally have too much per point into our direct points (disneyland) to make using points for purchase of an ap to be a good value. Those that bought at a different price per point I can see the advantage. I hadn't fully looked into this option which I did say in my post that I was certain of the correct answer. I'm very glad I was incorrect since this is a good option for lots of people.

 

[Cfabar1]

can you use resale points to buy the pass?

 

[Sandisw]

can you use resale points to buy the pass?

Only if they were bought before 2012 and are good for trades , like into the Disney collections.

 

[thanxfornoticin]

Only if they were bought before 2012 and are good for trades , like into the Disney collections.

Actually, it's for resale points purchased 2015 or earlier, those basically grandfathered for 'blue card' status. We have resale points purchased in 2015 and used them to renew our APs. There are just too many different 'deadlines' DVC sets up for these points and what they're eligible for! It gets fuzzy. But resale points purchased 2015 or earlier should be good for the APs through MMB.

 

[Genie+]

Actually, it's for resale points purchased 2015 or earlier, those basically grandfathered for 'blue card' status. We have resale points purchased in 2015 and used them to renew our APs. There are just too many different 'deadlines' DVC sets up for these points and what they're eligible for! It gets fuzzy. But resale points purchased 2015 or earlier should be good for the APs through MMB.

I think while the 2015 resale points can get access to Sorcerer’s Pass, they do not get access to Disney Exchange Collection (which was the first move DVC made to differentiate resale and direct back around 2011), and that system is where the MBB conversion of DVC points to AP takes place.

 

[thanxfornoticin]

I think while the 2015 resale points can get access to Sorcerer’s Pass, they do not get access to Disney Exchange Collection (which was the first move DVC made to differentiate resale and direct back around 2011), and that system is where the MBB conversion of DVC points to AP takes place.

Since we just did this last month, I can tell you that our 2015 'blue card' grandfathered resale points were eligible to purchase the MMB AP passes using those points. That's what I mean about rules and regulations on the resale points being so fuzzy about what they can be used for. But however they converted our 2015 resale points, those points were eligible for the APs.

 

[Genie+]

Since we just did this last month, I can tell you that our 2015 'blue card' grandfathered resale points were eligible to purchase the MMB AP passes using those points. That's what I mean about rules and regulations on the resale points being so fuzzy about what they can be used for. But however they converted our 2015 resale points, those points were eligible for the APs.

Glad to hear that! I’d rather they keep grandfathered points consistent. The less complicating details the better.

 

[thanxfornoticin]

Glad to hear that! I’d rather they keep grandfathered points consistent. The less complicating details the better.

It would be great if it didn't matter where the points were bought! But we all know that's going to get more complicated moving forward, not easier!

 

[Sandisw]

Since we just did this last month, I can tell you that our 2015 'blue card' grandfathered resale points were eligible to purchase the MMB AP passes using those points. That's what I mean about rules and regulations on the resale points being so fuzzy about what they can be used for. But however they converted our 2015 resale points, those points were eligible for the APs.

Good to know! I was given different info when I inquired! My resale are 2017 and later so…darn

 

[thanxfornoticin]

Good to know! I was given different info when I inquired! My resale are 2017 and later so…darn

Our purchase date was just dumb luck when we did it with regards to the benefit restrictions!