Helene Aftermath…Are You Ok?

Oh. I didn't say that. Although not enough people have been saved. I think anyone with a heart can agree with that.

I am glad a decision was made today to send 1000 more professional rescuers. I would not have waited 5 days. But not everyone thinks alike.
You seem to assume quite a lot about how aid and assistance rolls out.
 
Even with a Hurricane where you can predict the path, don't TPTB need to wait to see what areas actually need disaster relief? They can put some people closer (which it sounds like they did) before the event, then it will take a couple of days to figure out A) where the problem areas are B) how many problem areas there are C) what kind of problem areas there are and D) what kind of people they need to solve the problems.

People are complaining literally within days that "not enough is being done"? Yea, I also didn't know we had so many experts in Disaster Recovery on here.
Aren’t you pretending to be an expert?
 

Oh. I didn't say that. Although not enough people have been saved. I think anyone with a heart can agree with that.

I am glad a decision was made today to send 1000 more professional rescuers. I would not have waited 5 days. But not everyone thinks alike.
OK. So you have a path of severe damage from the Tampa area of Florida all the way up through the Carolinas and into Tennessee. About 800 miles long and 350 miles wide. Roughly 400 roads are impassable, some gone altogether. Lots of communities lost all forms of communication with the outside world. Every one of those places has city, county, and state-level first responders, disaster recovery specialists, and semi-professional volunteer groups like the Cajun Navy...all at individual states of readiness depending on whether the particular group's facilities/supplies/employees/etc were damaged by the storm. And because communications are down, it's extraordinarily difficult to coordinate between agencies. Oh, and don't forget....state's rights and all. The local community has to request state assistance, and the state has to request federal assistance.

So you're in charge of the federal response. You tell me, where do you send the soldiers?

It takes a few days to coordinate everything. Nobody LIKES that fact, but those of us who grew up in hurricane zones know that's just the way it is. You have to either evacuate or be prepared to care for yourself and your family and your pets for a week or so. Usually some kind of assistance gets in within 72 hours (generally the Red Cross or local volunteers, because they don't have to go through the chain of command). But you don't count on it.
 
Oh. I didn't say that.
Actually you did... "It should not take 5 days to save dying Americans." That means you feel it took 5 days to save people.
Although not enough people have been saved. I think anyone with a heart can agree with that.
Ideally, everyone is saved. But is that realistic? Sure, with hindsight, knowing what's needed and where, maybe it's possible.
I am glad a decision was made today to send 1000 more professional rescuers. I would not have waited 5 days. But not everyone thinks alike.
OK. You think you know better. Maybe you should apply to work for FEMA.
 
Katrina was a response disaster. Many standard current response parameters were developed by the many levels and organizations involved in post disaster operations as a result of the many failures of Katrina.
 
I think 5 days is too long to save human lives. Of course, that is just my opinion. And I am so happy that volunteers feel the same way.

The condescending responses on this thread are strange.
Again, lives were being saved on Day 1. And yes, unfortunately, lives were also lost on Day 1. I'm sure they learned some things with this disaster, like they learn at every disaster, but every disaster is also different.
 
Again, lives were being saved on Day 1. And yes, unfortunately, lives were also lost on Day 1. I'm sure they learned some things with this disaster, like they learn at every disaster, but every disaster is also different.
I agree so much with you here. I hope they/we learned and continue to learn. And I also pray that the hundreds missing are just cut off from society now and have no cell service and they will be rescued soon.

It is all just so terrible and heartbreaking. I rarely donate to Go Fund Me, but I have been finding individuals to donate to. I will risk getting scammed here and there to get some financial help to these people.
 
I think 5 days is too long to save human lives. Of course, that is just my opinion. And I am so happy that volunteers feel the same way.

The condescending responses on this thread are strange.
Asking again. WHERE do you send the soldiers along an 800-mile long, 350-mile wide swath of damage? Do you just air drop them wherever and let them figure it out? No coordination whatsoever?

I lived through Hurricane Ida in New Orleans in 2021 (on the 16th anniversary of Katrina, interestingly enough). A very small, but very powerful storm that made landfall right at the cusp of Cat 4/5. The eyewall went over my house, shifting it on its foundation. The levees and floodwalls held, thankfully, but the main transmission tower for the entire city fell into the Mississippi River, plunging us all into darkness. Heat index was over 100 for every one of the absolutely miserable 10 days that we were without power.

It took 72 hours for help to arrive. We knew it would take at least that long, because we were told it would take at least that long, repeatedly, in the days leading up to the storm. Once they got there, the National Guard worked tirelessly to distribute ice and food, as well as to rescue people by boat and helicopter. Active duty military never came. Why would they? The Cajun Navy deployed immediately, restaurant owners started cooking up their food that would otherwise spoil and distributing it for free, neighbors helped neighbors. I get the feeling you've never actually been through a natural disaster, and you're just spitballing about the what the response "should" be. And it's actually kind of insulting to those of us who HAVE survived these events.
 
So thankful for volunteers that were able to coordinate their rescue efforts immediately.
Neighbors trying to check on their neighbors has happened since the beginning of time. It's the most basic (and important) first step. Then the more organized aid and assistance rolls out in the hours and days after.
 
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Asking again. WHERE do you send the soldiers along an 800-mile long, 350-mile wide swath of damage? Do you just air drop them wherever and let them figure it out? No coordination whatsoever?

I lived through Hurricane Ida in New Orleans in 2021 (on the 16th anniversary of Katrina, interestingly enough). A very small, but very powerful storm that made landfall right at the cusp of Cat 4/5. The eyewall went over my house, shifting it on its foundation. The levees and floodwalls held, thankfully, but the main transmission tower for the entire city fell into the Mississippi River, plunging us all into darkness. Heat index was over 100 for every one of the absolutely miserable 10 days that we were without power.

It took 72 hours for help to arrive. We knew it would take at least that long, because we were told it would take at least that long, repeatedly, in the days leading up to the storm. Once they got there, the National Guard worked tirelessly to distribute ice and food, as well as to rescue people by boat and helicopter. Active duty military never came. Why would they? The Cajun Navy deployed immediately, restaurant owners started cooking up their food that would otherwise spoil and distributing it for free, neighbors helped neighbors. I get the feeling you've never actually been through a natural disaster, and you're just spitballing about the what the response "should" be. And it's actually kind of insulting to those of us who HAVE survived these events.
I ask the same question when people complain that the president and VP haven’t been to the storm sites. Well, which sites should they visit? You want them to helicopter in and give people a pep talk? Or do you want them in DC coordinating relief efforts? Are they supposed to help with search efforts? I just don’t get the things people complain about. The local officials have said the president called and offered whatever aid they need.
 
I ask the same question when people complain that the president and VP haven’t been to the storm sites. Well, which sites should they visit? You want them to helicopter in and give people a pep talk? Or do you want them in DC coordinating relief efforts? Are they supposed to help with search efforts? I just don’t get the things people complain about. The local officials have said the president called and offered whatever aid they need.
I still haven't forgiven George W Bush for his press appearance in the wake of Katrina. Rolled into town, totally disrupting recovery efforts, and set up in Jackson Square with a generator to run the lights. Gave some stupid speech that accomplished nothing, then had his team pack up the freaking generator and they hauled butt out of there. Really? You couldn't even leave the generator???
 
Actually you did... "It should not take 5 days to save dying Americans." That means you feel it took 5 days to save people.
It did take 5 days to save people. And more people need to be saved. But I did not say "Nobody has been saved " as you stated earlier. That is ridiculous to suggest that.

There are so many dead. And so many missing. Again, I am thankful more professional rescuers are being sent. I hope more lives can be saved.
 












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