Has anyone's ressie been cancelled yet over "The Code"

[NYDisGuy]

Johnny:

I agree that the odds of them retracting or cancelling reservations is virtually 'nil' -- but rest assured it has happened in the past.

Plain and simple .. up til the moment your vacation is over -- they reserve the right to do as they darn well please.

You are aware of the BWI issue from last year? And how those people were contacted and offered two choices - pay the correct rate or cancel your reservation. And several of those people had 'paid in full' already.

There IS direct precedent is my point.

We can tell just from this site alone that over 80-100 rooms have been purchased using the code without a pin, all the concerige are basically sold out. I believe with the amount of cards that Disney sent out is equivalent to the amount of rooms that they have open, probably sent out 10% more figuring people will throw it away or it will go into spam mail. Im sure Disneys dream percentage would be 60% of said rooms filled. I dont think Disney cares who gets it, they had to figure the code would leak through ebay or another form of internet. The question is what will happen if or when the percentage surpasses 60% or whatever their goal percentage is. I believe at this point is when they will stop the deal and look into it. But to be honest, if it isnt stopped before the deadline of March 15th, then I wouldnt worry about it. They will end up filling those leftover rooms anyways with an eye catcher deal like free dining, they just want to make sure there are rooms left to do it.

 

[CanadianGuy]

NYDisGuy:

And that's the big bullet point to keep in mind..

Despite all the posts and everything else.. the number of people booking from this site without the pin is probably well under 1000 rooms in total. In the grand scheme of things that's nothing.

And that's a 1000 rooms booked during slow weeks.. when the parks aren't open as late and there's 'less' to do in theory.

I say these discounts will stand.

 

[HelenePA]

NYDisGuy:
I say these discounts will stand.

I hope!!! This is all really new to me since its my first time going and doing this booking stuff!!

if not I'll break down join AAA and still save some of this money. I HATE paying full price for anything.

 

[corndog]

Not a scare tactic. Read the booking rules.

The following is contained on my confirmation (and I assume everyone else's):

RATE REVISIONS: Room rates and package rates for arrivals on or prior to December 31, 2007, are guaranteed as long as your reservation is not changed. For arrivals after December 31, 2007, deposits or prepayments guarantee room availability only, andrate and package components have not been determined and are subject to change without notice.

I may have only gone to a state law school, but I do know that if you have a reservation, paid a deposit and have received a confirmation, you indeed have a binding, valid contract for a room at the rate quoted. The only potential defense Disney would have to said contract is if you knowingly induced them to give you a rate to which you were not entitled. That would be an extremely difficult thing for them to prove, and the burden would be on them to do so.

 

[taximomfor4]

The following is contained on my confirmation (and I assume everyone else's):



I may have only gone to a state law school, but I do know that if you have a reservation, paid a deposit and have received a confirmation, you indeed have a binding, valid contract for a room at the rate quoted. The only potential defense Disney would have to said contract is if you knowingly induced them to give you a rate to which you were not entitled. That would be an extremely difficult thing for them to prove, and the burden would be on them to do so.

Not so. Also buried in their paperwork is a blurb about how they can cancel any reservation at any time, for any reason, and their only liability would be to refund the monies paid.

Beth

 

[corndog]

It might be buried in "their" paperwork, but it's not contained in mine, and, even if it were, such language would be of no effect. But if you want to worry, feel free to do so. I have no worries. But like I said, I only went to a state law school.

 

[Wafflestoo]

You are aware of the BWI issue from last year? And how those people were contacted and offered two choices - pay the correct rate or cancel your reservation. And several of those people had 'paid in full' already.

I just so happened to be on the DIS boards last year when this BWI glitch happened. People knew it was a glitch and when they booked this deal they were trying to get something for nothing. I am not knocking that... just letting you know that they knew that they might get caught.

This deal is different. Perfectly innocent people are asking if ANY discount is available and being given this deal even without knowing anything about pins and codes and what not.

That would be most unfair to them if this deal is revoked.

Meg

 

[taximomfor4]

It might be buried in "their" paperwork, but it's not contained in mine, and, even if it were, such language would be of no effect. But if you want to worry, feel free to do so. I have no worries. But like I said, I only went to a state law school.

I am not booked with the discount at all. I just have watched a few situations arise where WDW didn't honor paid in full reservations. Several different ones have been mentioned on these threads.

 

[Letsbgoofy]

This deal is different. Perfectly innocent people are asking if ANY discount is available and being given this deal even without knowing anything about pins and codes and what not.

I'm not perfectly innocent but...I just asked if there was any type of discount available for my week of travel and was given the 40% off. I was asked if I had a code or pin and said "no". I'm not positive we are going to go so I'm not really stressing about this, but I would feel it was wrong if Disney cancelled or changed my reservation when I did nothing that wasn't honest.

 

[A Mickeyfan]

The following is contained on my confirmation (and I assume everyone else's):



I may have only gone to a state law school, but I do know that if you have a reservation, paid a deposit and have received a confirmation, you indeed have a binding, valid contract for a room at the rate quoted. The only potential defense Disney would have to said contract is if you knowingly induced them to give you a rate to which you were not entitled. That would be an extremely difficult thing for them to prove, and the burden would be on them to do so.

this is not true... It has happened already as I explained about the computer glitch.. many of us had confirmed ressies.. nothing was changed, mine was paid in full... Disney still called and told us, one night at that rate only..
as far as thier policy goes.. read on further on the back of your ressie...
there is a disclaimer:

"If the resort requires you to check out early, the resort will notify you at least 3 days prior to your required check out date. Less notice or no notice may be given in certain situations if permitted under applicable law, such as situations of bad conduct or faluer to pay."

That is stating that Disney CAN CHANGE your ressie as long as they give you 3 days notice..and in some cases..no notice. That basically is what happened to with the glitch rate ressies.. Disney required us to check out early.. by only allowing us the one night at the reduced rate. If we wanted to stay the remainder, we had to pay full rate & it DID become a different ressie.. I know this for a fact since I did it. I stayed & had to make an entirely new ressie for the remainder of my stay! Go back & check your law books for what a Disclaimer is.. there is a disclaimer on your ressie..

 

[A Mickeyfan]

I am not booked with the discount at all. I just have watched a few situations arise where WDW didn't honor paid in full reservations. Several different ones have been mentioned on these threads.

You are soooo correct. Many feel that Disney will not do it. If this is a real promo, Disney will not be making phone calls. If there was an error and you still got the code, they do not have to honor it & just be making phone calls in the next few weeks...

 

[boomhauer]

It might be buried in "their" paperwork, but it's not contained in mine, and, even if it were, such language would be of no effect. But if you want to worry, feel free to do so. I have no worries. But like I said, I only went to a state law school.

Somehow I think the "reservation changed" thing could come into effect since you used a pin code that didn't belong to you.

I'm just saying, there are exceptions to the rule.

 

[WDWVillain]

I just think it is wrong for people to take advantage of a code situation that they were not intented to get! Everyone here so happy that they got in on the deal........well, I did, but I HAD a mailed offer to me! I think Disney should revoke anyone who took advantage of this! And people wonder why they never get mailed discounts! I never once had the nerve to ask for a code I did not get properly!

 

[CF'er]

So far I haven't heard anything yet. But since my ressie is through a TA I would think she would get the call. She and I have decided to wait to see how this whole thing shakes out. I had my ressie at rack rate. Went on a rack rate for the past 2 trips (didn't know about discounts on #1 and went spring break and none available #2.) I am prepared to go either way.
As others as have said.... the money I save on my room will get back to Disney one way or the other. I have decided to do some "extra's" if we get the discount. May not do them otherwise.

I guess I did try to get something I wasn't entitled to if it were a "pin" code. But that was told to the CM when the call was placed. So where would blame lie?

Can I online check my ressie if made through a TA? I have the conf #.

 

[goofydad621]

I think they will honor it. Lets face it some poeple tried to get something they knew they should't ie, I have a pin but I lost it, or it is not with me right now etc. Others just asked if there was any promo or code that they code use and it was applied. Disney would get a black eye from allot of loyal folks not that would bother them for sure, Disney is a funny entity sometimes.

But like others said allot of people are upgrading to where they would normally stay and are buying the dinning plan instead of maybe being more frugal on the dinning. My wifes first thought? Look at all the money we saved that she can spend on shopping at the world instead SO Disney will get the money from most one way or the other.

Just my 2 cents

 

[NYDisGuy]

I just think it is wrong for people to take advantage of a code situation that they were not intented to get! Everyone here so happy that they got in on the deal........well, I did, but I HAD a mailed offer to me! I think Disney should revoke anyone who took advantage of this! And people wonder why they never get mailed discounts! I never once had the nerve to ask for a code I did not get properly!

Thats not exactly fair to say. I along with many others called to make a reservation and was offered the 40% without even asking. This has nothing to do with the consumer. If the Disney CM's are giving out the discount because they recieve commission or a bonus for the amount of rooms they sell well thats Disney's internal problem and thats a whole other issue.

And as far as revoking everyone who didnt have the code, if Disney wants a storm to reign on their headquarters then I dont think they will do it. This goes beyond that BWI glitch, because this code was offered by Disney to many people through mailers and their own staff.

 

[CanadianGuy]

Corndog:

I hear you. But your reasoning doesn't explain why Disney got away with cancelling deeply discounted rooms that people booked online last year.

According to your reasoning - those people would have had an action in a court of law. Yet nobody availed themself? Seems unlikely.

And further for that matter - package rules (and laws in Florida) and room only rules (and laws in Florida) are different. That's why Disney likes selling packages so much more. The laws for vacation 'packages' are much more favorable to the corporate entity than room only reservations.

Again, the argument is semantics because I honestly don't believe Disney WILL do anything about it. But rest assured they have several recourses available to them. The argument that you were given a discount for which you do not qualify is the strongest.

I can call today and reserve an annual passholder or AAA discount and that will stand till the moment I try to check in without any proof that I'm a card holder of either. At that moment, that discount disappears. No three days notice or anything else. In this case, its your word against a giant corporate entity that they 'gave' you the code without asking vs. you asked for it. He said/She said.

Nobody here has legal proof they were just 'offered' the code innocently on the call as opposed to asking for it. (Unless of course they violated state wire-tapping laws and recorded the conversation. )

And it's worth noting you went to state law school - ok - what state -- Florida? Or Ohio. The laws in Florida are VERY skewed towards the tourism industry and NOT toward the tourist.

J

 

[NYDisGuy]

Corndog:

I hear you. But your reasoning doesn't explain why Disney got away with cancelling deeply discounted rooms that people booked online last year.

According to your reasoning - those people would have had an action in a court of law. Yet nobody availed themself? Seems unlikely.

And further for that matter - package rules (and laws in Florida) and room only rules (and laws in Florida) are different. That's why Disney likes selling packages so much more. The laws for vacation 'packages' are much more favorable to the corporate entity than room only reservations.

Again, the argument is semantics because I honestly don't believe Disney WILL do anything about it. But rest assured they have several recourses available to them. The argument that you were given a discount for which you do not qualify is the strongest.

I can call today and reserve an annual passholder or AAA discount and that will stand till the moment I try to check in without any proof that I'm a card holder of either. At that moment, that discount disappears. No three days notice or anything else. In this case, its your word against a giant corporate entity that they 'gave' you the code without asking vs. you asked for it. He said/She said.

Nobody here has legal proof they were just 'offered' the code innocently on the call as opposed to asking for it. (Unless of course they violated state wire-tapping laws and recorded the conversation. )

And it's worth noting you went to state law school - ok - what state -- Florida? Or Ohio. The laws in Florida are VERY skewed towards the tourism industry and NOT toward the tourist.

J

I honestly think it can go along the lines of false advertising for people who were offered the code by the cm without asking. If I was a family on the fence and called Disney to feel out prices then one of the cm's said they can give me 40% off my resort they would definitley book it right there, like I did in a sense since im in college. Well that family can turn around and tell their kids and get everything situated, and if Disney calls back and says pay he rack or cancel, they could be slated with false advertising of a promotion by a staff member.

 

[WDWVillain]

I honestly think it can go along the lines of false advertising for people who were offered the code by the cm without asking. If I was a family on the fence and called Disney to feel out prices then one of the cm's said they can give me 40% off my resort they would definitley book it right there, like I did in a sense since im in college. Well that family can turn around and tell their kids and get everything situated, and if Disney calls back and says pay he rack or cancel, they could be slated with false advertising of a promotion by a staff member.

I am sorry but I find it really hard to believe that everyone here was "offered" something, I think they saw it here and tried to get something for less is more like it! It is my experiance here(which is approx 9 years) this is more of the case then not! Lets call it what it really is!

 

[CanadianGuy]

DisGuy:

What proof do you have that you were offered the code and didn't ask for it?

You don't have anyway to prove that. In order to prove false advertising, you have to prove THAT. Without that proof, you have no case.

J